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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: morrowasted]
    #27237880 - 03/04/21 11:00 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I'm just happy I got a vaccination this soon. Hopefully it's not yearly.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #27237891 - 03/04/21 11:05 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

It may be for a bit

I wonder if theyll ever just check your antibody titers and give it when necessary like hep b vaccine


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: morrowasted]
    #27237896 - 03/04/21 11:07 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I could easily do every ten years.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #27238635 - 03/05/21 11:55 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Yesterday was the first Thursday since early November with fewer than 2000 deaths. Four months.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
    #27238678 - 03/05/21 12:35 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Tomorrow will be yesterday the day after.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
    #27239418 - 03/05/21 08:11 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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Yesterday was the first Thursday since early November with fewer than 2000 deaths. Four months.



When do you think we will be below one?

Do you think once most mildly vulnerable people are vaccinated- say, everyone over 40 and or with conditions like CKD, HTN/VAD, HF, DM, hepatitis, hiv, etc- it would be ethically acceptable to open everything back up?


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: morrowasted]
    #27239487 - 03/05/21 08:46 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Two weeks

A significant portion of the 65+ population has been vaccinated. Nursing home cases are down over 90%. I bet new ICU admissions have completely tanked.

New weekly hospitalizations dropped from 118,000 to 35,000 from Jan 10 to Feb 28. Likely under 20,000  next week.

Morrow has probably seen new admissions evaporate


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
    #27239496 - 03/05/21 08:54 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

oh, they have. ours is back down to like 40% capacity

I am torn because on the one hand I think "almost nobody under 40 without bad comorbidities dies from this so once they all get vaccinated we could speed up getting to herd immunity by letting young people do whatever the fuck they want and just catch it" and on the other I think "but then the virus can mutate a bunch more times and eventually make the vaccine much less useful" but then I think "but the fucker is still gonna mutate throughout the third world likely for, um, forever, honestly" and i just dont know what should be done

the object is to reduce death and hospitalization as much as possible. as more vulnerable people get vaccinated we need to shift public attention away from overall case number towards hospitalization so we can come to an earnest utilitarian compromise about reopening things


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: morrowasted]
    #27239505 - 03/05/21 09:01 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

We don’t know enough about the long term consequences of even mild disease. A lot of people have not really recovered from being mildly sick. Everyone should be vaccinated. just not losing smell and taste is worthy of vaccination. And some of those young people will die even if it’s just a couple dozen. I’ve read that younger people take longer to clear the virus, and every infected person is a factory making new strains of the virus.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods] * 1
    #27239506 - 03/05/21 09:02 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
    #27239546 - 03/05/21 09:19 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)


It fills me with rage that anyone would be trying to scare others away from being vaccinated. The vaccine is unquestionably and hastily bringing the pandemic to and end in the US. I cannot imagine a scenario more positive that what we see in the hospitalization data. This is over by the end of June.

I really think the best vaccine deployment strategy would to just keep lowering the age limit. After 65+, do 50+ over. The  35+ then 18+

If you scale up the cases in New York so they are proportional with deaths, New York peaked out at around 80k new cases a day back during the first wave. Probably 15x more infections than the case count.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: cannabinated]
    #27239561 - 03/05/21 09:22 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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I’ve read that younger people take longer to clear the virus


link me breh


the flipside is that we dont know much about the long term consequences of certain policies in place right now


I'm concerned especially about kids 5-12 not having opportunities to develop normally

that could become a major problem in and of itself down the line if this continues


I don't really know man. maybe it's just that since I'm vaccinated I've become more selfishly indifferent.

After spending the whole year around COVID patients and never catching it, I'm convinced if everyone wore the right masks the right way and washed their hands the right way at the right times that would basically stop the virus in its tracks

at a certain point I feel like saying "Okay everyone who wants a vaccine has gotten it, the rest of yall dont want it, good luck to you, everyone go back to business as usual" and as long as hospital resources are not overtaxed, i'm.... okay.... with those people dealing with the consequences of their actions.

it's just those damn complicating factors like "oohhh but it mutates, even in ignorant people, so we HAVE to hold their hands and tolerate their tantrums the whole way through the process" and "but certain people cant get the vaccine and then they are still gonna have to stay in hiding from the ignorant people" that make it impossible for me to say what I just said I feel like saying

i am glad am not in charge, I'll say that much


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
    #27239566 - 03/05/21 09:25 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

We also gotta make sure people understand that naturally acquired immunity isn’t the same as being vaccinated. The recommendation should be anyone who has had covid get one dose of a vaccine.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: morrowasted]
    #27239568 - 03/05/21 09:26 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)



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    #27239570 - 03/05/21 09:27 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I already had the virus and will not be taking the vaccine, who here will be but hurt over that?


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
    #27239573 - 03/05/21 09:29 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Teaching staff should be vaccinated and the kids brought back. This should have been done by now, but there’s no reason the kids don’t come back unless they live with an unvaccinated vulnerable person. I think the vaccine should be mandatory for school employees.

My local school district started opening this week.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
    #27239581 - 03/05/21 09:35 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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Teaching staff should be vaccinated and the kids brought back. This should have been done by now, but there’s no reason the kids don’t come back unless they live with an unvaccinated vulnerable person. I think the vaccine should be mandatory for school employees.

My local school district started opening this week.



Mine has been open on and off, especially for younger kids. I'm grateful for that.

I hear the plight of teachers. They've had a rough year-maybe even rougher than ours in some cases. I'm not totally convinced that placing non-high-vulnerability teachers ahead of the highly vulnerable non-teachers is justifiable though. Again, to me the aim is to reduce hospitalization, injury, and death. The best way to do that is to get all of the people most likely to be hospitalized and/or die, should they catch COVID, first. The way, yeah COVID will still be going around, and average will still be miserable from it for like a week, but the hospitals will be okay and the death toll will go down. Visitors can come back to nursing homes and all that.

The way I see it, teachers used the demand for their labor as a bargaining chip to get moved up in priority. I can't blame them, but I can't really say I see it as being the honorable thing to do. They might even believe it's the best thing for everyone overall and not just themselves and their families. I'm not sure I agree.


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    #27239594 - 03/05/21 09:41 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I’d like to see large venue events like concerts, festivals, sporting events be restricted to vaccinated people only. Instead of fucking around with social distancing, masks and crowd size limits, people can go back to the way things were because you’re a max herd immunity. Vaccinated only movie theatres. No restrictions. It’s a great way to be normal again  and it’s a way to encourage vaccinations.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic PART 2 (Second Wave 2020-2021 season) [Re: koods]
    #27239605 - 03/05/21 09:44 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Interesting, no way to know if a card reading one is vaccinated though, too much money to print the docs etc...I like the idea though. Got tickets to 2 shows, late July and late August inside a venue.


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    #27239618 - 03/05/21 09:48 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

There are private companies developing vaccine passport systems for businesses.


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