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Re: Plastic barrel steamer [Re: tedoro]
#28074542 - 11/29/22 01:30 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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You're making the same mistake I originally made. You are trying to just put the element to the barrel with a nut. You're supposed to be using a sanitary fitting and a tri clamp
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Re: Plastic barrel steamer [Re: Stromrider]
#28074566 - 11/29/22 01:41 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Stromrider said: You're making the same mistake I originally made. You are trying to just put the element to the barrel with a nut. You're supposed to be using a sanitary fitting and a tri clamp
https://www.amazon.com/Sanitary-Threaded-Fittings-Tri-clamp-Tri-Clover/dp/B077SF79LG/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=sanitary%2Bfitting%2Btri%2Bclamp%2Bfemale&qid=1669754373&sr=8-10&th=1
I'm a little confused... do you have a link?
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Re: Plastic barrel steamer [Re: tedoro]
#28074683 - 11/29/22 03:19 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Say you have a 2" element. You need one of these that you put on your barrel
TRUE Weldless 2" TC Tri clamp Bulkhead Compression Fitting 304 Stainless Steel Homebrew Kettle Bulkhead https://a.co/d/bptInvQ
Then you use a tri clamp and silicone o ring to attach your element to this weldless bulk head
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Re: Plastic barrel steamer [Re: Stromrider]
#28075052 - 11/29/22 07:09 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Stromrider said: Say you have a 2" element. You need one of these that you put on your barrel
TRUE Weldless 2" TC Tri clamp Bulkhead Compression Fitting 304 Stainless Steel Homebrew Kettle Bulkhead https://a.co/d/bptInvQ
Then you use a tri clamp and silicone o ring to attach your element to this weldless bulk head
So the other lipped piece not shown is a female thread for the element. all clamped together. yeah, thats nice. awfully spendy. but I can see it better.
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Re: Plastic barrel steamer [Re: tedoro]
#28075201 - 11/29/22 08:35 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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No you still don't get it. The threads on the element are not going to be used except to put a cover over the electrical. The element clamps to the bulk head with a tri clamp. I'll take a picture tomorrow
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Re: Plastic barrel steamer [Re: Stromrider]
#28075280 - 11/29/22 09:50 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Stromrider said: No you still don't get it. The threads on the element are not going to be used except to put a cover over the electrical. The element clamps to the bulk head with a tri clamp. I'll take a picture tomorrow
Ohhh I get it now. roger that.
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Re: Plastic barrel steamer [Re: Stromrider]
#28075336 - 11/29/22 11:14 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Stromrider said: No you still don't get it. The threads on the element are not going to be used except to put a cover over the electrical. The element clamps to the bulk head with a tri clamp. I'll take a picture tomorrow
I guess I still need a photo... unsure how the element treads can be used for this cover you speak of.
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Re: Plastic barrel steamer [Re: tedoro]
#28075876 - 11/30/22 11:02 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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The weldless bulkhead (right hand of second pic) goes on the barrel. The heating element is clamped to the bulkhead using a silicone o ring and tri clamp
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Re: Plastic barrel steamer [Re: Stromrider]
#28076100 - 11/30/22 01:02 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Stromrider said: The weldless bulkhead (right hand of second pic) goes on the barrel. The heating element is clamped to the bulkhead using a silicone o ring and tri clamp

1) It that cap on the end a hot pod?
2) What are those elements called? They look different than mine.
thank you for posting. The elements being different was really confusing me.
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Re: Plastic barrel steamer [Re: tedoro]
#28076193 - 11/30/22 02:07 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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DERNORD 2 Inch (OD64) Tri-clamp 120V 1650W Foldback Heating Element Electric Water Heater with Low Watt Density https://a.co/d/bSvyxmR
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Re: Plastic barrel steamer [Re: Stromrider]
#28076342 - 11/30/22 03:13 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Stromrider said: DERNORD 2 Inch (OD64) Tri-clamp 120V 1650W Foldback Heating Element Electric Water Heater with Low Watt Density https://a.co/d/bSvyxmR
That really is the clean way to do this. Thanks again.
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Re: Plastic barrel steamer [Re: Stromrider]
#28076778 - 11/30/22 06:35 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Stromrider said: DERNORD 2 Inch (OD64) Tri-clamp 120V 1650W Foldback Heating Element Electric Water Heater with Low Watt Density https://a.co/d/bSvyxmR
Last question (maybe) Does that cap thing act as a ground? negating the need to purchase the hot pod?
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Re: Plastic barrel steamer [Re: tedoro]
#28076804 - 11/30/22 06:49 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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tedoro said:
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Stromrider said: DERNORD 2 Inch (OD64) Tri-clamp 120V 1650W Foldback Heating Element Electric Water Heater with Low Watt Density https://a.co/d/bSvyxmR
Last question (maybe) Does that cap thing act as a ground? negating the need to purchase the hot pod?
The ground wire is the ground
Also what is a hot pod?
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Re: Plastic barrel steamer [Re: Stromrider]
#28077008 - 11/30/22 08:03 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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https://www.brewhardware.com/product_p/hotpod-ewl3.htm
The hot pod connects a ground wire to your element and drum making the whole thing grounded.
I would also suggest the WELDLESS PROBE COMPRESSION FITTING FOR POTS/KEGS PCOMP4 This makes a nice connection for your probe.
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That doesn't make sense to me. The ground wire atraches to the element = element grounded
Element touches barrel = barrel grounded
What does the hot pod add to the equation?
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Re: Plastic barrel steamer [Re: Stromrider]
#28077601 - 12/01/22 08:27 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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What youre using looks like a hot pod to me.
Most elements ive seen only have two connections and nowhere for the ground to attach. Presumably on water heaters the ground attaches somehwere else on the unit but for our purpose the ground should attach to the element which can be done with a hotpod and maybe thru the weldless bulkhead but i cannot see where the ground attaches on your pics, strom.
When i used a hotpod on my plastic barrel i had to carve a bit of the plastic away to reveal enough threads on the other side to get a good connection. It sounds janky but never leaked and that is not where it ended up failing.
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Re: Plastic barrel steamer [Re: Stromrider]
#28077828 - 12/01/22 11:03 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Stromrider said: That doesn't make sense to me. The ground wire atraches to the element = element grounded
Element touches barrel = barrel grounded
What does the hot pod add to the equation?
On the hot pod you use a screw that comes with the hot pod and attach the ground wire to the metal casing. The metal casing touches the drum and the element which grounds both of them. The hot pod also acts as a cover for your wires so someone does not get electrocuted.
I use the DERNORD in all the systems that I build for people. Because they have a ground contact. But if the element you already have does not have a ground contact the hot pod is the easiest way to get a ground contact.
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So, if I use this element, I needn't buy a hotpod.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DLVJQ3G/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_BNP3GR5TQ9CHZ9EGW27H_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I just get that sanitary bulkhead fitting and a tri-clamp and it will have a place to connect three wires. yes?
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Re: Plastic barrel steamer [Re: tedoro]
#28078071 - 12/01/22 01:08 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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tedoro said: So, if I use this element, I needn't buy a hotpod.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DLVJQ3G/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_BNP3GR5TQ9CHZ9EGW27H_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I just get that sanitary bulkhead fitting and a tri-clamp and it will have a place to connect three wires. yes?
No need for a hot pod with that element all that you need is already there. The 3rd and 5th pic if you look close at the top you can see the ground screw. I don't know why they don't actually show it to you better but it is there and those pic prove it.
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you gotta be some kind of Sherlock Holmes to find that ground screw
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