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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27204288 - 02/13/21 06:20 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah who could have ever predicted that the senate would vote along party lines, preventing the democrats from achieving a political win?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27204292 - 02/13/21 06:21 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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To recap:

- Immediately go back on $2k COVID check promise, negotiate themselves down to $1400
- Further attempt to means test it
- Put pandemic relief on hold for more impeachment theater
- Somehow negotiate themselves out of calling witnesses, lose vote regardless
- congratulate themselves with a week off (relief checks can wait a little longer), citing Valentine’s Day




No. Democrats wanted to change the $600 payment to $2000. Nobody was talking about $2600. It was $600 + $1400.


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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: koods]
    #27204314 - 02/13/21 06:28 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Bro are you really gonna play this game where Biden takes credit for the $600 Trump signed into law?

Do I need to paste the dozens of videos and ads and mailers of Biden, Harris, Ossof, Warnock, and others talking about “$2000 checks going out the door immediately if we take the senate?”


Did you miss the part where they’re means testing it and changing the phase out periods? Even if you want to argue that they were always going to be $1400 checks (which they weren’t) to supplement the $600, they already reneged on that halfassed excuse by changing the income requirements. They can’t even lie adequately.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27204320 - 02/13/21 06:31 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Bro please believe me Biden is the most progressive president ever bro the checks were always going to be smaller bro because the Republicans bro please just like the Democrats



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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27204336 - 02/13/21 06:37 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

The $600 went out weeks before Biden took office


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27204438 - 02/13/21 07:29 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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Bro please believe me Biden is the most progressive president ever bro the checks were always going to be smaller bro because the Republicans bro please just like the Democrats




biden is starting to get heat over imagination,it dont help that hes killing jobs thousands of jobs. then you got AOC she is another clown 🤡 in this side show lol. An they failed with trumps impeachment an got exposed for the frauds they are 😂😂😂 at the same time.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Mach z 800] * 1
    #27204677 - 02/13/21 10:05 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Not calling witnesses seems to be a tactically sound decision, though it doesn't look great.

Everything any democratic witnesses would have said is already in the record, including some damning quotes from republicans.

Calling witnesses would have (a) guaranteed Republican shitheadery (at this point referring to republicans as shitheads seems like excessive verbiage) designed for primetime Fox News opinion segments, and (b) republicans recanting previous statements, which could actually undermine the case.

Either way, everyone knew republicans would vote to acquit. Calling witnesses would have only given them more leverage.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #27204868 - 02/14/21 04:55 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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Not calling witnesses seems to be a tactically sound decision, though it doesn't look great.

Everything any democratic witnesses would have said is already in the record, including some damning quotes from republicans.

Calling witnesses would have (a) guaranteed Republican shitheadery (at this point referring to republicans as shitheads seems like excessive verbiage) designed for primetime Fox News opinion segments, and (b) republicans recanting previous statements, which could actually undermine the case.

Either way, everyone knew republicans would vote to acquit. Calling witnesses would have only given them more leverage.


this witness was not even at the white house along with AOC . This impeachment was not about the 6th. They dont want trump to run for any thing period again because there scared that he will exspose them more an wake more people up to how bad we are getting screwed.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Mach z 800]
    #27205012 - 02/14/21 07:42 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Getting screwed how exactly ? What did Trump expose ?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Mach z 800]
    #27205077 - 02/14/21 08:28 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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Mach z 800 said:
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Kryptos said:
Not calling witnesses seems to be a tactically sound decision, though it doesn't look great.

Everything any democratic witnesses would have said is already in the record, including some damning quotes from republicans.

Calling witnesses would have (a) guaranteed Republican shitheadery (at this point referring to republicans as shitheads seems like excessive verbiage) designed for primetime Fox News opinion segments, and (b) republicans recanting previous statements, which could actually undermine the case.

Either way, everyone knew republicans would vote to acquit. Calling witnesses would have only given them more leverage.


this witness was not even at the white house along with AOC . This impeachment was not about the 6th. They dont want trump to run for any thing period again because there scared that he will exspose them more an wake more people up to how bad we are getting screwed.




Quit calling it the White House already. This has been pointed out repeatedly. There are a lot of important white government buildings in D.C. The Senate and House of Representatives do not meet where the President lives. But yeah, other than that, keep bringing up AOC. I like the exposure.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27205315 - 02/14/21 11:18 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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Getting screwed how exactly ? What did Trump expose ?


it was more of trumps lawyers that exposed these people for the vampires they are. These people are doing the same shit there going after trump for an they had videos edited jusst to favor there side.  But trumps lawyers exposed all of that it was a good ass kicking lol.

Watch "Trump’s Lawyer EXPOSES Dems For Playing Manipulated Video of Capitol Riot" on YouTube



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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Mach z 800] * 2
    #27205396 - 02/14/21 12:10 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

As a general rule, I don't watch videos where someone gets EXPOSED or TRIGGERED or DESTROYED in all caps.

I don't care for what Bong Shapederast has to say.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Kryptos] * 2
    #27205398 - 02/14/21 12:12 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

SLAMS is another one. Any video that has a word in full caps is basically shit.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: ONE OZ SLUG] * 2
    #27210598 - 02/17/21 06:20 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

After saying he’d cancel $50k of student loan debt, and then immediately walking that back after getting elected, and then saying “oh no sorry that’s illegal to do via executive order,” Biden has now changed course again and declared that “ok canceling debt with executive order IS legal, but only for $10k.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/539139-biden-balks-at-50k-student-loan-forgiveness-plan?fbclid=IwAR1jvLDIMvzbatAw1p0sajai6kD7zfI4mAfXuG0s4TyiIiduEPT_HOrRX1Y

I have friends who would love to have kids or buy a house if they weren’t saddled with student loan debt, but I know in their hearts they’d rather be miserable than give the GOP ammunition about socialism before the midterms.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27210623 - 02/17/21 06:46 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

10k would be sweet. It would knock out my loans. Of course I'll likely pay them off this year... It probably won't happen in time for me.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: christopera]
    #27210654 - 02/17/21 07:27 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I'm fucking sorry but why are we just cracking off 10 racks to idiots who either got garbage useless degrees or careers they never pursued? I feel really bad you were dumb enough to sign up to get you criminal justice degree from the predatory online university thinking you were gonna be somebody after quitting smack or whatever from the predatory university and then no one hired you cuz your degree is a joke. Why is nobody talking about getting some that money back from these schools that swindled these retards we now have to bail out. These people are fucking morons its not thier fault. Why is nobody talking about getting that money back. Why is it always yeah let the people get away with ripping stupid people off then bail it out but we never get any of the money back. Does nobody care about the money? I realize you people now think this is some magical unlimited money foutain but do you not care these people got rich ripping off stupid poor people? Is everyone just that fucking inept or do you just not care as long as you get your free money. I mean you just let people get away with hsut like this all the fucking time fuck you. Honestly how dumb can you get? Thats what I dont get about you people its always fine when your getting money but do you not actually care past the whole free money thing? Clearly this isn't about doing the right thing or fixing anything or holding any accountable let alone yourself its about a bunch of whiney idiots who want their free money cuz derrp we just graduated college and found out what bills are. No we all have to pay out for yet another major fuck up from you people. Grow the fuck up its infuriating.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #27210657 - 02/17/21 07:30 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I think if you had paid attention you'd realize a big part of the discussion revolves around how schools basically screw students because they are aware that endless loans are available. So the idea is to help those with loans so they can start paying back into the economy at large instead of living off of beans and rice. Then once that happens hopefully meaningful school reform can happen. You love to bitch about Bernie Sander's but just about everything you just whined about is something he has tried to address, though he does so with far more nuance and understanding of the problem.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: christopera]
    #27210669 - 02/17/21 07:39 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Bernie did talk about getting some the money back but for the 1000th time he goes way too far with it and all the othershit. The guys a crack pot nutjob commie. We clearly need an overhaul but we need to make these companies do the right thing not fucking have some new money pit barrel of fun for the government to bulldoze money into and get nothing out of. Look at public schools ffs. Do you people not get it? Fine give them the 10k or whatever idfc anymore just fix it so we don't have to keep paying out to these moron idiots. It's bullshit and we should all feel bad about it.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #27210680 - 02/17/21 07:45 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

You agreed with a crack pot nutjob commie on just about every point regarding college education.

I like you Cheif, but sometimes you need to be reminded to calm the fuck down. Just because you don't agree with everything Bernie says, it doesn't mean he isn't correct.

College graduates make more money and pay more taxes. They are the core tax base in our society. There is every reason to help them out.

Also, a few of the public schools in my city also happen to be some of the top rated schools in my state. Our property taxes are also quite high.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 2
    #27210682 - 02/17/21 07:46 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm fucking sorry but why are we just cracking off 10 racks to idiots who either got garbage useless degrees or careers they never pursued? I feel really bad you were dumb enough to sign up to get you criminal justice degree from the predatory online university thinking you were gonna be somebody after quitting smack or whatever from the predatory university and then no one hired you cuz your degree is a joke. Why is nobody talking about getting some that money back from these schools that swindled these retards we now have to bail out. These people are fucking morons its not thier fault. Why is nobody talking about getting that money back. Why is it always yeah let the people get away with ripping stupid people off then bail it out but we never get any of the money back. Does nobody care about the money? I realize you people now think this is some magical unlimited money foutain but do you not care these people got rich ripping off stupid poor people? Is everyone just that fucking inept or do you just not care as long as you get your free money. I mean you just let people get away with hsut like this all the fucking time fuck you. Honestly how dumb can you get? Thats what I dont get about you people its always fine when your getting money but do you not actually care past the whole free money thing? Clearly this isn't about doing the right thing or fixing anything or holding any accountable let alone yourself its about a bunch of whiney idiots who want their free money cuz derrp we just graduated college and found out what bills are. No we all have to pay out for yet another major fuck up from you people. Grow the fuck up its infuriating.




Why the fuck should my niece with a graduate degree in bio-mechanical engineering get companies rich on her skill set and live in debt slavery for the rest of her life?  That's a very stupid concept to endorse. She did the right thing, she got into a very good university and got a 4 year degree and then went on for even 2 more years for a graduate degree. She didn't waste her time studying something that wasn't needed in the workforce. Now she is underpaid and loaded with debt. How come people in a similar situation 30 years ago were making double her salary without any debt for the most part?  Stop defending a cruel system designed to destroy any chance of living a middle class existence.


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