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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Lynnch]
    #27206089 - 02/14/21 06:29 PM (3 years, 1 day ago)



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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Lynnch]
    #27206271 - 02/14/21 08:18 PM (3 years, 1 day ago)

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If anyone really wanted to know why Trumps views and values are so popular, they would read black conservative Republican authors




And other books by uncle Tom.

Pretty obvious why.

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Trump is a POS sellout as well, how does that make Biden a good leader?  Biden is the lesser of two evils and that's nothing to celebrate.




Biden is a capable leader. That's many steps above Trump. In this case, the "lesser of two evils" is a choice between a stubbed toe and a beheading.

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I just want to suggest to my fellow progressive/leftists that they should be wary of falling into the trap of constant and absolute criticism of biden. You make us look dumb when you reach to gripe about every little thing. There are more productive ways to use our political energy.




Not only that, but you play into republican messaging. While there are many valid criticisms of Biden, there are also many valid reasons to support Biden. If you want to use the stick, you must also be willing to offer a carrot once in a while.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Kryptos]
    #27206321 - 02/14/21 08:55 PM (3 years, 1 day ago)

Yep, and like, if people misunderstand your message and mistake you for a trump supporter, maybe that's a sign that you need to take a good hard look at your message.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Kryptos]
    #27206528 - 02/14/21 11:49 PM (3 years, 1 day ago)

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If anyone really wanted to know why Trumps views and values are so popular, they would read black conservative Republican authors




And other books by uncle Tom.




Do you call all black conservative Republicans "Uncle Tom"? That's regressive. Just like Biden's racist "You ain't black if you . . . " Let's call that what it is - regressive.   

I guess that makes it easy to ignore one segment of the population. Willful ignorance is becoming more and more popular. Just smear and demean people. Treat them like idiots and bigots. The charade is over - the Democrat's hate can no longer masquerade as virtue. They've been exposed. People still don't understand how Donald Trump has permanently changed this nation.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #27206758 - 02/15/21 04:39 AM (3 years, 1 day ago)

I thought that was racist and offensive as well


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #27206764 - 02/15/21 04:45 AM (3 years, 1 day ago)

So why are so few people of color Republican then? Is it because so few are smart or because only a few are so dumb?


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27206769 - 02/15/21 04:48 AM (3 years, 1 day ago)

:facepalm:


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #27206771 - 02/15/21 04:48 AM (3 years, 1 day ago)

Can't answer? Answer you have sounds too bad for public fora?


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #27206880 - 02/15/21 06:50 AM (3 years, 1 day ago)

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If anyone really wanted to know why Trumps views and values are so popular, they would read black conservative Republican authors




And other books by uncle Tom.




Do you call all black conservative Republicans "Uncle Tom"? That's regressive. Just like Biden's racist "You ain't black if you . . . " Let's call that what it is - regressive.   

I guess that makes it easy to ignore one segment of the population. Willful ignorance is becoming more and more popular. Just smear and demean people. Treat them like idiots and bigots. The charade is over - the Democrat's hate can no longer masquerade as virtue. They've been exposed. People still don't understand how Donald Trump has permanently changed this nation.




I think anybody that takes the time to specify that they are a BLACK republican is trying to pull a Candace Owens. She made a career out of being the token black friend.

EDIT: And, of course, if you look back through the post history of someone that starts by saying "first of all, as a BLACK republican...", then the day before they were an asian girl, and the day before that a gay Mexican grandpa. Depending on the specific argument.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Kryptos]
    #27206959 - 02/15/21 08:04 AM (3 years, 1 day ago)

Internized racism is a byproduct of poor education and or institutionalized racism. The idea of minorities being racist against themselves has long been studied. This is why there's black Republicans. There are minorities that think it will increase their status in society. Republicans and supremacy go hand in hand so it's only natural that a small proportion of minorities will see it as a good strategy to distance themselves from positions that are associated with their original culture.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_and_Mamie_Clark#Doll_experiments


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27206975 - 02/15/21 08:19 AM (3 years, 1 day ago)

Apart from that, there also seems to be two different kinds of POC republicans. There are black people that happen to be republicans, and identify as republicans, and then there are black people that identify as "a BLACK republican, isn't that crazy?"

The second group always seems to use their race as a performance. It almost feels like they've been the token black friend for their entire lives, and built an identity around it.

That's why I specifically mention Uncle Tom.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Kryptos]
    #27207044 - 02/15/21 09:06 AM (3 years, 1 day ago)

There’s a lot of grift opportunities for black people who like to kiss up to republicans


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: qman] * 1
    #27207185 - 02/15/21 10:30 AM (3 years, 1 day ago)

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So acknowledging that Biden is sellout POS = Trump Supporter in your mind. :facepalm:

Trump is a POS sellout as well, how does that make Biden a good leader?  Biden is the lesser of two evils and that's nothing to celebrate.

You do realize the progressives in the US absolutely despise Biden?  Are they Trump supporters for pointing out Biden's obvious flaws?





Admittedly, yea I did lump you into the "Trump supporter" group based off that post and just the general tone of this thread and your posts....I'm def guilty of that. Apologies for the wrong accusation/assumption.

I def jumped to conclusions there....I know how it goes though, I often get lumped into the "Biden supporter" group just because I question and call out things on Trump supporters or because I don't fully align with the "right", but in reality I don't stand behind Biden either (some aspects of his policies/platform I do).




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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: openmind]
    #27207215 - 02/15/21 10:51 AM (3 years, 1 day ago)

qman actually has one of the more nuanced political opinions on this forum, I think.

That's not to say I particularly agree with his opinions or reasoning, most of the time, but there is wisdom behind the words.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods]
    #27207333 - 02/15/21 12:23 PM (3 years, 1 day ago)

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There’s a lot of grift opportunities for black people who like to kiss up to republicans



I was watching newsmax once and they had a black guy on there that I knew all he was thinking when he was talking was "man these white people pay me to say the craziest things"


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Kryptos]
    #27207476 - 02/15/21 01:35 PM (3 years, 1 day ago)

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I think anybody that takes the time to specify that they are a BLACK republican is trying to pull a Candace Owens. She made a career out of being the token black friend.




I say "black Republican's" because many people don't think there's such a thing. Why would black skinned and brown skinned people support white skinned supremacists? That why people assume they don't exist - or they choose to slander them, like you have Candace. People who claim to be the most tolerant and against hate are usually the least tolerant and most hateful. Trump has exposed the racial hatred that has infected the Democrat party. 

I see many headlines today claiming "Trump is Now Irrelevant". That means he's more relevant than ever. If Trump was irrelevant, nobody would be talking about him. It is clear our focus will be on Trump for a long long time.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27207536 - 02/15/21 02:02 PM (3 years, 1 day ago)

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So why are so few people of color Republican then? Is it because so few are smart or because only a few are so dumb?




In 2020, Trump received the highest percentage of the non-white vote of any Republican presidential candidate in the last 60 years.

7 million blacks voted for Trump in 2020. He got 1 out of 3 Latino votes.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #27207562 - 02/15/21 02:14 PM (3 years, 23 hours ago)

Saying Candace Owens built a career out of being a token BLACK republican isn't slander. Diamond and Silk did the same thing. Kanye tried to milk it as well, but a narcissist doesn't play nice with other narcissists.

Also, the idea that Trump got the highest percentage of non-white votes in the last 60 years is is just outright bullshit.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Kryptos]
    #27207577 - 02/15/21 02:21 PM (3 years, 23 hours ago)

Stephen Colbert, the American Ambassador of Kindness & Compassion, is encouraging the nation to "Give peace a chance".

I wonder how many Trump votes he is responsible for? I bet he inspired many.






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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Kryptos]
    #27207582 - 02/15/21 02:25 PM (3 years, 23 hours ago)

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Saying Candace Owens built a career out of being a token BLACK republican isn't slander. Diamond and Silk did the same thing. Kanye tried to milk it as well, but a narcissist doesn't play nice with other narcissists.

Also, the idea that Trump got the highest percentage of non-white votes in the last 60 years is is just outright bullshit.




Thanks for posting this. I had been wondering if there was any legitimacy to those claims that more black/Hispanic voters supported trump than any other republican president.  I found those statements incredibly hard to believe but it's good to know those claims are untrue.


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