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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 2
    #27193438 - 02/08/21 10:32 AM (3 years, 7 days ago)

Yes. They manipulated him from the beginning. After his first trip to Russia he came back making anti-Nato statements and the Soviets were overjoyed. I haven't yet read reviews of what happened after he got elected. I'm guessing the Russians played it cautiously and were just happy to have an American President with pro-Russian sentiments. There were already the Russian influence allegations here, so they had to be careful, and Putin is no fool. I got the impression they never at any point told him what to do. They flattered him and financed him and got a fairly good return on their investment. He was never a Russian agent, but they found it easy to influence him.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Brian Jones] * 2
    #27193829 - 02/08/21 02:06 PM (3 years, 7 days ago)

KGB was grooming a lot of people back in the 70s and 80s. Literally hundreds of people. They were throwing darts at the wall, and seeing what would stick. They primarily targeted public personas and businessmen, figuring they'd be the easiest to manipulate through blackmail or money.

Donald Trump went for it. Turns out, he went for it hook, line, and sinker. A couple of KGB agents fluffed his balls a little, talked about how smart he was and how great a leader he would be, and planted the idea of European countries "freeloading" off the US through NATO. Trump came back to the US, and immediately bought an ad in the paper talking about how the US needs to leave NATO because Europeans are freeloading. Apparently that caused quite a stir over in the Kremlin, because they never thought someone would be played so easily.

It is entirely possible that Russians telling him he should run for president as a way to play to his narcissism is the reason Trump eventually ran for president.

First paragraph was pretty common knowledge, second and third are from the book.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Kryptos]
    #27197150 - 02/10/21 11:02 AM (3 years, 5 days ago)

Are people watching the trial? I thought that guy Joe Neguse was pretty good idk where that guys from.


Edited by CHeifM4sterDiezL (02/10/21 11:25 AM)


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #27197160 - 02/10/21 11:11 AM (3 years, 5 days ago)

Trump is pretty fucked an hes getting criminal charges on top of this.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Mach z 800]
    #27197609 - 02/10/21 03:21 PM (3 years, 5 days ago)

Man they are showing all the video, plus security video and police radios. This is like a good episode of law and order


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods]
    #27197620 - 02/10/21 03:29 PM (3 years, 5 days ago)

They just mike dropped into recess after showing a cop almost being crushed to death.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods]
    #27197714 - 02/10/21 04:17 PM (3 years, 5 days ago)

I hope to God they have somehow gotten footage of Trump watching the insurrection and showing his reaction and people trying to get him to do something about it and him ignoring them.

Surely they're saving their most damning evidence for last.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 3
    #27197941 - 02/10/21 06:25 PM (3 years, 5 days ago)

I really do think the impeachment team has really done a good job and has made America confront the footage and realize how horrible a day it was for America and American history. Realize how bad trumps words and actions were in pouring the final gas and the raging fire. This wasn't 9/11 but I still felt the kind of pain and damage to the country I love deeply and the Democratic institutions we stand for, it hurt to see people beat officers with the American flags, Trump flags, killed one officer through beating him to death, yelled at the top of their lungs to find people like Pelosi or even Mike pence to hang them for treason, they had zip ties for at least 40-50 people, both RNC and DNC headquarters had bombs planted in them as a terrorist plot. All of that deeply painful and horrific desecration of our most sacred democratic process the transfer of power hurt more then I ever thought it would.

Never once did I think "haha now I have political ammo against Trump supporters" I only thought that each of those people were good Americans some military that had been exploited by the president of the United States to do his sycophantic coup attempt ruining their lives, one lost her life over trumps sore losing and willingness to throw democracy under the bus to save face politically when these people were vulernable to believe the conspiracy were brainwashed and now threaten their own families for "being traitors" if they didn't believe in Q or Trump or rat m out for being terrorists.


Every American should have felt the pain of the capitol attack but instead people still on the Trump train bend over backwards to justify it and absolve Trump from his orders "as many rioters said they were taking orders from their commander in chief".

This is just a small portion of why Trump can absolutely never be president again. We are in smoldering ruins now imagine what would've happened with 4 more years of Trump. It would've been he'll on earth and with Biden it'll be extremely hard to undo the damage he's done but I have some hope now that at the very worst he will be better at not running his mouth to our enemies like it's a disposable game of risk,Biden won't get played by Russia or NK like Trump did, he won't give conflicting medical advice undermining his own top scientists in the world, won't say FU to climate change and he will take it serious, he won't alienate our allies in the world. It's mainly All about the crazy Trump shit like those that won't continue the next 4 years is the only real hope I have.

I didn't post it on the shroomery but the day before the capitol attack I had a heated YouTube argument where I had just seen the Jan 5th rally the night before from Trump and I said the language he used would cause violence . Saying the election was stolen from us, we are going to take back our country and you can't do it with weakness "implying to do it with force" and you have Guiliani calling for trial by combat. All of those things I brought up we're all shut down because they said "every Trump supporter that hears this knows when he is exaggerating" to which I said during the last 4 years Trump supporters took more of Trump words seriously then Trump did case in point he said he'd be opening back up "clean coal" plants in a specific area and long story short by the end of his presidency 10 plants were shut down and 2 were created . Not to mention when he financially destroyed farmers that voted for him over his lack of understanding of what trade wars were and what carries themselves were. Then they said that Trump voters are adults and they would never use violence like ANTIFA thugs. To which I went back and forth with them on Charlottesville and then finally said something like I hate to say it but I can almost guarantee at this point there will be violence. This was predicting an awful tragic event using basic logic and some folks still just say you're a MSM brainwashed libtard. It ended in a horrible attack on US democracy.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #27198102 - 02/10/21 07:53 PM (3 years, 5 days ago)

There's no democracy taking place at the Capital, therefore there's no horrible attack on it.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: qman]
    #27198266 - 02/10/21 09:49 PM (3 years, 5 days ago)

Here's a question maybe I'm just not getting it why are delegates speaking and stuff on this?


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: qman]
    #27198285 - 02/10/21 10:00 PM (3 years, 5 days ago)

:rolleyes: Look man, I'm all for criticizing the system.. but that's just hyperbolic cynicism to the point of complete absurdity.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Lynnch]
    #27198292 - 02/10/21 10:08 PM (3 years, 5 days ago)

So they get to vote now or :confused:


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Lynnch] * 1
    #27198317 - 02/10/21 10:30 PM (3 years, 5 days ago)

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:rolleyes: Look man, I'm all for criticizing the system.. but that's just hyperbolic cynicism to the point of complete absurdity.




It's almost as absurd as 87% of Democratic voters supporting Medicare For All and Biden and the rest of the Democratic Congress representatives completely ignoring their voters. Do you care to explain why the democratic process isn't working at the Capital?  I mean voters should have representation, correct?  What's the deal here, it's almost like the democratic process is nothing more than an illusion.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #27198346 - 02/10/21 10:54 PM (3 years, 5 days ago)

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So they get to vote now or :confused:




No, but they are members of Congress.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods]
    #27198360 - 02/10/21 11:06 PM (3 years, 5 days ago)

Well who cares then why should the get to weigh in. Last time I checked these people don't even vote for president why do they all of a sudden care so much?


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #27198395 - 02/10/21 11:28 PM (3 years, 5 days ago)

They’re American citizens


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: qman] * 1
    #27198413 - 02/10/21 11:40 PM (3 years, 5 days ago)

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qman said:There's no democracy taking place at the Capital, therefore there's no horrible attack on it



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:rolleyes: Look man, I'm all for criticizing the system.. but that's just hyperbolic cynicism to the point of complete absurdity.




It's almost as absurd as 87% of Democratic voters supporting Medicare For All and Biden and the rest of the Democratic Congress representatives completely ignoring their voters.





That's not even close to the same thing. :facepalm: 
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: qman]
    #27198447 - 02/11/21 12:10 AM (3 years, 5 days ago)

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It's almost as absurd as 87% of Democratic voters supporting Medicare For All and Biden and the rest of the Democratic Congress representatives completely ignoring their voters..



Sure. Valid concern. (Though Biden has been president for... how many days exactly?)
But, however valid as that is, it still doesn't justify minimizing the attack on the 6th. (On the day when they were certifying the vote.. of the people. Kinda a democratic thing wouldn't ya say?)


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods]
    #27198701 - 02/11/21 06:23 AM (3 years, 4 days ago)

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They’re American citizens



No theyre fuckimg not theyre like American nationals or something. These people do not vote for president they do not care about us. All they seem to do is complain


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Lynnch]
    #27198782 - 02/11/21 07:51 AM (3 years, 4 days ago)

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:rolleyes: Look man, I'm all for criticizing the system.. but that's just hyperbolic cynicism to the point of complete absurdity.


lol this what happens when the looney people run the nut house. Li love how people think things will get better under biden. Hes allreaddy hiking our taxes up, he fucking imagination up,he can keep a single promise.  Sloppy joe has to go!!!!


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