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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: koods]
#27197496 - 02/10/21 02:17 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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700 trillion rogue objects (not gravitationally bound to a star) per cubic parsec
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: koods]
#27197499 - 02/10/21 02:19 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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Tell me more about your superior knowledge. What youtube university do you go to? You probably have a Physics for dummies book that you never opened
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: trees]
#27197504 - 02/10/21 02:20 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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K, I read a few articles and now I do have some negative things to say about Loeb.
He has no argument. He made a baseless assertion and is riding on the fact that people desperately want there to be proof of aliens.
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The paper has been a smash hit with journalists but has fallen flat with most of Loeb’s astrobiology-focused peers, who insist that, while strange, ‘Oumuamua’s properties still place it well within the realm of natural phenomena. To claim otherwise, Loeb’s critics say, is cavalier at best and destructive at worst for the long struggle to remove the stigma of credulous UFO and alien-abduction reports from what should unquestionably be a legitimate field of scientific inquiry.
I take it that it doesn't concern you at all what the rest of the astrobiologists think, just Loeb's opinion matters?
In case it wasn't clear, he's making bank off this charade;
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I’m good, but I have been losing sleep, because in order to cope with all the media requests, I’ve been doing interviews with, for example, Good Morning Britain at 1:50 A.M. and Coast to Coast AM at 3 A.M.—plus appearances on U.S. network and cable television. I’ve got about 100 podcast interviews to do in the next few weeks. And I already recorded long conversations with [podcasters] Lex Fridman and Joe Rogan for their shows. I’ve never seen anything like this; there has been so much interest in the book. I mean, there were 10 filmmakers and producers from Hollywood who contacted me over the past few weeks! I joked with my literary agent that if a film comes out of this, I want to be played by Brad Pitt.
He's turning what should be a real scientific question into a cash cow complete with a movie deal, this is going to spawn decades of conspiracy theories
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: Svetaketu]
#27197513 - 02/10/21 02:23 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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I'm down for more alien movies
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: trees] 1
#27197519 - 02/10/21 02:26 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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I took my physics courses at McGill Univiesity ranked #40 in the world for physics - in the building where Earnest Rutherford did the work that won him the Nobel prize. But you emailed a guy, so good for you.
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: trees]
#27197541 - 02/10/21 02:34 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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trees said: I'm down for more alien movies
Yeah me too.
But fuck Avi Loeb. Look at the consensus, not what 1 scientist who is being motivated by fame and money thinks.
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: koods]
#27197629 - 02/10/21 03:35 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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koods said: I took my physics courses at McGill Univiesity ranked #40 in the world for physics - in the building where Earnest Rutherford did the work that won him the Nobel prize. But you emailed a guy, so good for you.
It's not that I believe its alien. I'm skeptical of that. Rather I listened to the guys story and I liked it very much. Hes had a pretty interesting life. He was born in Israel, grew up a farm kid, served military, was appointed to study physics, moved about under different disciplines, earned tenure somewhere I dont remember, worked on telescope projects with watever biggest astronomy department of the USA. Hes been a professor, a writer, a father, currently contributes to some technological work professionally. Where as this omuamua thing is entirely a side project. Listening to him speak he sounds genuinely happy and going with his life, he knows that people trying to bring down his ideas doesnt matter or hurt his career.
Ill listen to his idea and think about it even if I'm skeptical
You Koods I've read everything you post over the years seen all the pics, sorry but you're not that interesting, or credible
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the strander said: I think that jumping to the alien technology conclusion just because we don't have any other working explanations that haven't been disproven in a stretch. There's still too much about the universe that we don't know, and I think some natural non-alien force is the more likely cause of its behavior.
yeah but
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: trees]
#27197648 - 02/10/21 03:42 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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These are the two things I posted, upon which you decided to attack me.
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cannabinated said: angular momentum would seem plausible for that shape if its a spinnin.
couldnt that change the path?
No.
There’s nothing unusual about its path. All objects close to the sun curve like that. The earth’s path is permanently curved. Gravity.
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koods said: There’s also nothing unusual about an object that comes from outside to solar system leaving the solar system. In fact, unless an object hits something inside the solar system, it will by necessity leave the solar system. It has too much kinetic energy to stay.
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cannabinated said: angular momentum would seem plausible for that shape if its a spinnin.
couldnt that change the path?
A spinning object could be deflected as it travelled through solar winds through the magnus effect 🤷♂️
A spinning object could change direction if it was losing mass, like if a piece broke off. If say it broke into two pieces, the parts would have a change in direction but the sum of the vectors of the two piece would remain the same as the vector of the single object because momentum is always conserved.
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: koods]
#27197796 - 02/10/21 05:01 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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Why dont you email the guy and tell him that so he shuts up and you win and get all the praise you crave
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: trees]
#27197804 - 02/10/21 05:08 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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What the fuck is your problem? I havent said a fucking thing about your penpal, except to point out your creepy obsession with him.
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: trees]
#27197809 - 02/10/21 05:11 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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I was going to say something funny but then it made me think..
Ya’ll ever see the video of the guy who says he can summon ufos, and the news caught wind of it? They went out with him like ok dude and no shit a silver thing showed up on the horizon. I thought that was funny.
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: koods]
#27197831 - 02/10/21 05:23 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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koods said: What the fuck is your problem? I havent said a fucking thing about your penpal, except to point out your creepy obsession with him.
Lol what is your problem. You're like foaming at the mouth about this, swearing and cussing
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: trees]
#27197898 - 02/10/21 06:01 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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Freak
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: Amanita86]
#27198012 - 02/10/21 07:05 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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Amanita86 said: I was going to say something funny but then it made me think..
Ya’ll ever see the video of the guy who says he can summon ufos, and the news caught wind of it? They went out with him like ok dude and no shit a silver thing showed up on the horizon. I thought that was funny.
Link?
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: trees]
#27198154 - 02/10/21 08:32 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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koods said: What the fuck is your problem? I havent said a fucking thing about your penpal, except to point out your creepy obsession with him.
Lol what is your problem. You're like foaming at the mouth about this, swearing and cussing
He's gotten properly pissed off on account of the way that numbers work a couple of times. I'm pretty sure he called bullshit on something I copied and pasted from Wolfram on one of those occasions.
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: koods]
#27198156 - 02/10/21 08:33 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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koods said:
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cannabinated said: angular momentum would seem plausible for that shape if its a spinnin.
couldnt that change the path?
A spinning object could be deflected as it travelled through solar winds through the magnus effect 🤷♂️
A spinning object could change direction if it was losing mass, like if a piece broke off. If say it broke into two pieces, the parts would have a change in direction but the sum of the vectors of the two piece would remain the same as the vector of the single object because momentum is always conserved.
Also if it's not actually rigid and the center of mass somehow changes.
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: chibiabos]
#27198161 - 02/10/21 08:36 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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That’s not going to change its direction.
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Re: Oumuamua (Logical Chaos) [Re: koods]
#27198187 - 02/10/21 08:56 PM (3 years, 5 days ago) |
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koods said: That’s not going to change its direction.
https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/wisdom/swimming.pdf
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