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Pan Cyan Spawning
    #2718907 - 05/23/04 05:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I am trying to grow Pan. Cyans and have 4 720ml jars colonizing at the moment. I cant decide if I should mix the spawn with the substrate in autoclavable-filter-patched-bags and wait for it to get colonized - or mix the spawn and substrate in plastic trays and cover them with foil? Is there a big difference?
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Re: Pan Cyan Spawning [Re: nimbus]
    #2719053 - 05/23/04 06:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Mix the spawn and substrate in plastic trays and cover them with foil. If you use the filter patched bags you're just bringing more work than necessary. Just make sure as always to be sterile while spawning.


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Re: Pan Cyan Spawning [Re: NewfoundFreedom]
    #2719344 - 05/23/04 07:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yes, that's what I thought too..what is the point of using filter patched bags when you can do it directly in the trays? something about contams?


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Re: Pan Cyan Spawning [Re: nimbus]
    #2720197 - 05/23/04 10:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Would you be able to fruit Pan Cyans from a strawlog? Because this is what i am thinking on doing next and if i can, I might as well go for it!


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Re: Pan Cyan Spawning [Re: nimbus]
    #2720228 - 05/23/04 10:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Would you be able to fruit Pan Cyans from a strawlog? Because this is what i am thinking on doing next and if i can, I might as well go for it!





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Re: Pan Cyan Spawning [Re: Jopo]
    #2720327 - 05/23/04 10:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

He is talking about Pans ...those arent pans in your pic
The first grow of pans i did were done just like a regular casing and they turned out just fine
I didnt get all fancy and try to spawn to poo because they do contam easily


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Re: Pan Cyan Spawning [Re: OldSpice]
    #2720654 - 05/23/04 11:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I was just trying to set an example for those who did not know a strawlog if only said, i am simply asking if it would fruit well on this!


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Re: Pan Cyan Spawning [Re: OldSpice]
    #2721405 - 05/24/04 03:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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The first grow of pans i did were done just like a regular casing and they turned out just fine
I didnt get all fancy and try to spawn to poo because they do contam easily




do you mean you just cased the colonized grain? without mixing it with poo/straw/compost or anything else?


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Re: Pan Cyan Spawning [Re: nimbus]
    #2721503 - 05/24/04 04:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Sometimes fruits can be had this way but they will usually be very small.


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Re: Pan Cyan Spawning [Re: psyphon]
    #2721572 - 05/24/04 05:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I am definitely going to try spawning my grain to a
cow dung/verm/grass seed mixture. Because I already bought all these things, including having collected cow dung. I just can't decide if mixing in filter-patched bags is better or not  :confused:

mixing in the trays and covering them until full-colonization seems much easier and is less work.


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Re: Pan Cyan Spawning [Re: nimbus]
    #2722732 - 05/24/04 02:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Mixing in the bags would only be better if you pressure cooked the substrate in the bags. You would need to then spawn them in at least a glove box, preferably a flowhood. Have you read this?

Otherwise, go with the trays and still try to be as sterile as you reasonably can. Don't go crazy over it but maybe at least try to do it in a simple glove box.


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Re: Pan Cyan Spawning [Re: psyphon]
    #2722929 - 05/24/04 03:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

that log makes me quite hungry, almost horny. (jk)


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Re: Pan Cyan Spawning [Re: psyphon]
    #2723111 - 05/24/04 04:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Mixing in the bags would only be better if you pressure cooked the substrate in the bags.  You would need to then spawn them in at least a glove box, preferably a flowhood.  Have you read  this?

Otherwise, go with the trays and still try to be as sterile as you reasonably can.  Don't go crazy over it but maybe at least try to do it in a simple glove box.




yeah I have read that many times  :smile: that's where I got the inspiration!  :rolleyes:

but glow boxes and flowhoods are expensive I guess...? and also something too big for my room  :frown: so you mean I should not go with the bags if I dont have any of those two..right? f***!! i even bought an impulse sealer..  :sad:
btw, I was planning to pasteurize the substrate


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Re: Pan Cyan Spawning [Re: nimbus]
    #2724792 - 05/24/04 10:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You can make a cheap and simple glove box by getting a clear rubbermaid type container and cutting two holes for your arms in the sides. Spray down the inside with isopropyl alcohol, or lysol, etc. You don't even need to attach gloves. You're just trying to reduce air currents that would bring in contamination.

Do some searches, there have been lots of threads about glove boxes.

This way you can sterilize your bags, spawn them in the glove box and immediately seal them like in that tek.


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Re: Pan Cyan Spawning [Re: psyphon]
    #2725972 - 05/25/04 02:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

thanks for the advice.. I will think about it  :thumbup:


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Re: Pan Cyan Spawning [Re: psyphon]
    #2766479 - 06/05/04 04:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i made a glow box..a very cheap one, even without the gloves  :grin:
but i think it works!

and I spawned already
check out my grow log and comment it, i mean try to help me make things better if I can!  :thumbup:  :grin:


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Re: Pan Cyan Spawning [Re: nimbus]
    #2767349 - 06/05/04 11:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Excellent. %)


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