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Quantom Moksha said:
You have any info for a starting route if someone did that?

Idk some people were rolling into it years ago but it seemed like alot.. and seemed like it needed a devoted computer..?

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Sugabearcrisp said:

What are you considering for a starting material?

In terms of danger there is going to be strong acids and bases that can burn along with dangerous gases and waste that will be hard to dispose of safely. Also buying the chemistry glassware and/or starting materials may raise suspicion.

I suggest reading the chemistry forum for a little bit, determine your intended starting point and proposed tek and then post questions about the dangers.

All that said MDMA is insanely cheap and available at the moment on the dark web. $40 a gram for us domestic and less than $10 a gram from europe. For personal use amounts I would consider that route first, much better to be caught with a couple grams someone else made (simple possession) than an entire setup to make your own (manufacture).

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Sugabearcrisp said:
Probably better suited to post this in the chemistry forum, maybe a mod could move.

What are you considering for a starting material?

In terms of danger there is going to be strong acids and bases that can burn along with dangerous gases and waste that will be hard to dispose of safely. Also buying the chemistry glassware and/or starting materials may raise suspicion.

I suggest reading the chemistry forum for a little bit, determine your intended starting point and proposed tek and then post questions about the dangers.

All that said MDMA is insanely cheap and available at the moment on the dark web. $40 a gram for us domestic and less than $10 a gram from europe. For personal use amounts I would consider that route first, much better to be caught with a couple grams someone else made (simple possession) than an entire setup to make your own (manufacture).

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RenegadeMycologist said:
Probably biggest danger is getting busted with mdma lab

Joke aside, well it is not dangerous as lsd synthesis

inhaling chemicals and getting your skin burnt is the biggest danger. You could potentially set yourself on fire or cause an explosion, but i doubt it, if you are at least a bit educated on the matter it won't happen

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AmistadCubensis said:

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RenegadeMycologist said:
Probably biggest danger is getting busted with mdma lab

Joke aside, well it is not dangerous as lsd synthesis

inhaling chemicals and getting your skin burnt is the biggest danger. You could potentially set yourself on fire or cause an explosion, but i doubt it, if you are at least a bit educated on the matter it won't happen

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here is the source of my research i'm going to discuss. I've of course been looking up lots of terms:

https://files.shroomery.org/cms/5884398-Complete_MDMA_synthese.pdf

this is the first guide i was using, it's great in that it shows it in four steps, but it has absolutely horrendous technical writing. You'll be scratching your head with this one.

https://erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/brightstar.mdma.html

This one is very well written and exposes most of the complications of synthesizing MDMA, it's called synthesis because we are extracting chemicals and bonding them together.

And you are correct about inhalation and fumes, that can dealt with by using a cartridge respirator, that is the kind that will filter out formaldehyde particles from the air in the lab.

Yup, and the explosions are an actual risk:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/d3qa4z/a-canberra-uni-student-blew-up-his-dorm-room-trying-to-cook-mdma

Now lets talk more about nuero-toxicity:

so there are lots of nuerotoxins and potential nuerotoxins, MDMA is one of them. Oxygen is potentially toxic, alcohol is a nuerotoxin that people throw back every day.

So if you are going to roll without hurting your brain/body in the long run, you need to test your drugs to see if they are real.

If you are making MDMA, you need to have a milligram scale. I personally wouldn't dose myself anything beyond 125mg, that is what is deemed a therapuetic dose. 50mg should be enough, but if i were making the stuff i would certainly take the larger dose first.

The other danger is the toluene you are going to use in the first recipe, that is scary because that is what gets you high when you huff glue, it certainly does brain damage with enough exposure. It probably gets flushed out of your body fairly quickly though. Look up the mask you would need to filter that and the formaldehyde first before trying any of this.

I'm going to have to turn my back on this procedure for a long time, i don't even have a space for a stable/isolated lab. As biggie says, don't shit where you eat.

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TieACable2aTree said:
There is an episode of Hamilton's Pharmacopeia where there are, I believe, two dudes making MDMA out of over the counter chemicals.

skip to 16:32

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RenegadeMycologist said:
In Europe at least, the best enterprise in mdma field is making pills, since mdma is so cheap. Dutch make tons of it, all the labs are there.

I used to buy mdma for 3$ gram on alphabay.
Now, with obtaining fillers and pill press you could make your own brand, and spit out high quality pills. It's cheaper and dangers are non existent. Except getting busted of course.

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