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Cyans
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Do you grow hops too?
#27171415 - 01/26/21 07:39 PM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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After many years of gardening i must say hops have become one of my top 5 favorite plants to grow. I just love they are perennials and have rhizomes. I was given some nugget hops many years by some old timer which still grow like crazy today. They are an especially great plant for sharing and trading with others. Even if you dont brew beer they are very pretty and your herbalist lady friends can find all kinds of stuff to do with them. Mainly hair rinses and a nice tea. Now they are very prone to ants carrying aphids onto your vines and i have had some issues with scales as well.. in my yard i tie my strings to branches of trees i have limbed up a little. They eventually wind their way all over the tree. and the next year just grow on top of the old vines.. If the climate wasnt dried out in the summer and they needed water here they would make a good permaculture plant. If your still reading and wish you had some hops send me a PM. Closing in on that time of year I have Nugget, cascade, chinook, and magnum hop roots i would be glad to trade for some prints you may have.
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Sleepingstar
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Re: Do you grow hops too? [Re: Cyans]
#27171644 - 01/26/21 09:33 PM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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I had a friend point some hops growing near me by a river that I would like to go back to and get some cuttings or whatever it takes to get it going. I don’t have any plans for hops other than to just grow it but that could always change.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL
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How do you feel about the effects of hops?
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Sleepingstar
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I have never tried it other than beer but have heard many good things about it. Have you tried it? It sounds similar to valerian root.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL
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Yeah hops definitely has a very pronounced effect to me. Makes me quite relaxed and drowsy. I first started noticing it drinking all the insane beers I drink that are essentially just hop tonics. Always gave a different sort of buzz. Eventually started playing around with taking extracts as a sleep aid.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL
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Also it pisses me off all the top shelf hops is impossible to grow as theyre very strictly controlled proprietary strains
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Sleepingstar
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This one that I seen may have been growing there a very long time. There are no buildings by it and I am very curious as how it became established.
Have you ever tried valerian root? It doesn’t effect everyone the same way. I have a jar of it and it stinks bad. The fresh leaves don’t taste too bad though. If you can’t get past the smell, they sell supplements in the capsule form.
Edited by Sleepingstar (01/27/21 12:54 PM)
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Sleepingstar
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The hops flowers are good for the bees also.
If the vines are growing wild, would it be ok to take cuttings without knowing what type they are? I will have to check them out better and try to identify what type they may be.
Edited by Sleepingstar (01/27/21 01:03 PM)
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Cyans
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Hops are not usually propagated by cuttings per se.. you basically have a couple of months before spring to dig up some chunks of the hops roots and transplant. I usually wait to dig my roots until i see the first sign of the vines popping.. Here in southern oregon thats around late feb. Another interseting thing about hops is that they are cousins to cannabis family. They also are dioacious which i spelled wrong, but hops are either male or female. No one really messes with male hops plants or hop seeds because you will end up with hop cones full of seeds!! sounds a lot like our beloved sensimilla!!
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Re: Do you grow hops too? [Re: Cyans]
#27175333 - 01/29/21 12:02 AM (1 month, 7 days ago) |
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So when they are growing is there any way to influence the gender? I had someone who was going to teach me to graft but the virus messed things up. I don’t know if those could be grafted too but I don’t know why not.
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flugelizor
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I grow hops and brew beer. 90% of the time I brew with commercial pellet hops. But every fall I make a batch with my fresh homegrown hops.
Because hops lose some flavor in the drying process, "Wet hopped" beer has a distinctive taste that is very special.
But processing hops is a hell of a lot of work. Takes about an hour to pick and clean about $2 of hops.
In this area hops bines are a magnet for Japanese beetles.
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M44
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Quote:
flugelizor said: I grow hops and brew beer. 90% of the time I brew with commercial pellet hops. But every fall I make a batch with my fresh homegrown hops.
Because hops lose some flavor in the drying process, "Wet hopped" beer has a distinctive taste that is very special.
But processing hops is a hell of a lot of work. Takes about an hour to pick and clean about $2 of hops.
In this area hops bines are a magnet for Japanese beetles.
A couple of months ago I got given a hop plant, it's still small but growing, I'm really looking forward to the first harvest to add to my beer brews
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Re: Do you grow hops too? [Re: M44]
#27181334 - 02/01/21 06:26 PM (1 month, 3 days ago) |
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Aren't you supposed to age the hops for the bitter flavor in beer?
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flugelizor
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Re: Do you grow hops too? [Re: STPLSD25]
#27181645 - 02/01/21 09:49 PM (1 month, 3 days ago) |
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STPLSD25 said: Aren't you supposed to age the hops for the bitter flavor in beer?
The bitterness comes from isomeration of the lupulin during the boil. More boil, more bitter (up to about 90 minutes)
Hops are normally dried to give them longer shelf life. But not aged.
The only beer I know of that uses aged hops is Belgian Lambic - and the Belgians do that because they are weird, not because it's more bitter 
I love most Belgian beers, but to put it politely, I haven't found a Lambic that I like
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I used to but it tried to take EVERYTHING over been a bitch to kill it. I tried to get into brewing but just wasn’t feeling it.
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