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InvisibleNewfoundFreedom
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Draft?
    #2717915 - 05/23/04 12:18 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Not sure if this has been covered or not, but it has me semi-worried. I already wrote emails to all my local newspapers asking them to cover this as I hadn't seen anything on it before. Here's the site.


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Re: Draft? [Re: NewfoundFreedom]
    #2717941 - 05/23/04 12:27 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

We have talked about this before, but it's worth bringing up again.




In addition to writing local news outlets, you can influence public policy by writing your congressman.

You can find your congressman's contact information at:
http://www.house.gov/writerep/


Your congressman is your representative: of all the ellected officials of the federal government, he is the one with a direct local connection. Along with voting and public discussion, letting your representative know what you think is the established method of influencing national public policy.


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InvisibleNewfoundFreedom
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Re: Draft? [Re: phi1618]
    #2717957 - 05/23/04 12:33 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks, and I will do. Anyone have a prewritten letter I could send? I'm not too good with formalities.


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Re: Draft? [Re: NewfoundFreedom]
    #2718007 - 05/23/04 12:52 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Subject:
Pending Draft Legislation

To:
Rep. (your representative here)
(Date)

As my representatives in Congress, I want to express to you my dissatisfaction with the pending draft legislation (HR 163). I strongly encourage you to vote against this bill.

(Your name & adress)


Edited by phi1618 (05/23/04 12:59 PM)


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InvisibleNewfoundFreedom
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Re: Draft? [Re: phi1618]
    #2718009 - 05/23/04 12:54 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

redacted


Edited by NewfoundFreedom (05/23/14 11:28 AM)


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Re: Draft? [Re: NewfoundFreedom]
    #2718015 - 05/23/04 12:56 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: Draft? [Re: phi1618]
    #2718054 - 05/23/04 01:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

heh this is the 3rd thread on this, one here, one in the pub and one in OTD. In any case I don't think this particular incarnation of the draft will get any where. Unless Bush gets "re"-elected this november, if he does.. I wonder how long it'll take me to pick up an australian accent?


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Re: Draft? [Re: unbeliever]
    #2718059 - 05/23/04 01:12 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

If he gets re-elected, I wonder how long it will take me to engage in my right to bare arms.


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Re: Draft? [Re: NewfoundFreedom]
    #2718092 - 05/23/04 01:24 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

If he gets re-elected, I wonder how long it will take me to engage in my right to bare arms.




Do you normally keep your arms covered?  :wink:


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Re: Draft? [Re: NewfoundFreedom]
    #2718392 - 05/23/04 03:12 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Early drafts of the second ammendment prohibited a draft. Its a damn shame they removed that part of the bill of rights.


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Re: Draft? [Re: z@z.com]
    #2718606 - 05/23/04 03:57 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

z@z.com said:
Early drafts of the second ammendment prohibited a draft. Its a damn shame they removed that part of the bill of rights.



The Thirteenth Ammendment prohibits slavery. I think that should count.


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Re: Draft? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2718647 - 05/23/04 04:09 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

:smirk:


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Re: Draft? [Re: NewfoundFreedom]
    #2719089 - 05/23/04 06:11 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Keep this site in mind for the future:

http://www.objector.org/

"The Central Committee for Conscientious Objectors supports and promotes individual and collective resistance to war and preparations for war."


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Re: Draft? [Re: NewfoundFreedom]
    #2719130 - 05/23/04 06:19 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

For some odd reason, it seems the vast majority of those who support the draft are those who will never be drafted themselves

But just for comical purposes, I do hope they instate it and see the huge backlash as I watch it all up in BC  :smirk:


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Re: Draft? [Re: unbeliever]
    #2719191 - 05/23/04 06:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Bush gets "re"-elected this november, if he does.. I wonder how long it'll take me to pick up an australian accent?




Fuck it, I'm going there regardless. Aussies, make way for me!!


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Re: Draft? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2721380 - 05/24/04 03:46 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

silversoul7 said:
The Thirteenth Ammendment prohibits slavery. I think that should count.



I think so too, but unfortunately it doesn't.


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"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson


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Re: Draft? [Re: Ravus]
    #2721385 - 05/24/04 03:47 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Ravus said:
But just for comical purposes, I do hope they instate it and see the huge backlash as I watch it all up in BC  :smirk:



I might just be joining you up there. I will not stand to have my freedom stolen from me.


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"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson


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Re: Draft? [Re: z@z.com]
    #2722293 - 05/24/04 12:53 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

z@z.com said:
Quote:

silversoul7 said:
The Thirteenth Ammendment prohibits slavery. I think that should count.



I think so too, but unfortunately it doesn't.



I've actually been wondering lately if anyone's tried challenging the draft on those grounds, and if so, I wonder what justification the Supreme Court gave for why the draft doesn't count as slavery or involuntary servitude.


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Re: Draft? [Re: z@z.com]
    #2724003 - 05/24/04 07:13 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

z@z.com said:
Quote:

Ravus said:
But just for comical purposes, I do hope they instate it and see the huge backlash as I watch it all up in BC  :smirk:



I might just be joining you up there. I will not stand to have my freedom stolen from me.




And if you do i hope i see your sorry dragged back to an American prison. Freedom isn't free.


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Re: Draft? [Re: d33p]
    #2724012 - 05/24/04 07:15 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

d33p said:
Freedom isn't free.



Typical Orwellian double-speak. Of course freedom is free. It costs nothing for people to leave me alone.


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