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OfflineMach z 800
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #27174042 - 01/28/21 05:28 AM (3 years, 19 days ago)

This virus is here to stay double or triple  masks up an be shure to get your ass check for covid.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Mach z 800]
    #27174061 - 01/28/21 06:05 AM (3 years, 19 days ago)

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This virus is here to stay double or triple  masks up an be shure to get your ass check for covid.




:whateveryousayfreak:

Double mask? Triple mask?

:lolwut:

How about a mask that works?



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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead]
    #27174070 - 01/28/21 06:10 AM (3 years, 19 days ago)

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Mach z 800 said:
This virus is here to stay double or triple  masks up an be shure to get your ass check for covid.




:whateveryousayfreak:

Double mask? Triple mask?

:lolwut:

How about a mask that works?




yep they are saying double mask now for covid 😂🤣 an china is now taking ass swabbs to check for the virus they claim its more accurate 😬.

Im so dam happy I got more filters for my gas mask this stuff is ridiculous.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Mach z 800]
    #27174079 - 01/28/21 06:23 AM (3 years, 19 days ago)



Folks the government helping people to a somewhat adequate degree in China is a human rights catastrophe.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #27174322 - 01/28/21 10:19 AM (3 years, 18 days ago)

Oh, is that what the article argues or are you just basing that on the headline? Could it be that they object to the methods China used to do this?


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: psi]
    #27174667 - 01/28/21 02:15 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

When has China done anything where it didn't impact human rights


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: psi]
    #27174746 - 01/28/21 03:06 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

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Oh, is that what the article argues or are you just basing that on the headline? Could it be that they object to the methods China used to do this?




They 100% object to the methods China used to stop the spread of Covid. Which admittedly were quite strict.

They're 100% trying to change the conversation from "lockdowns work" to "MaH hUmAn RiGhTs".

Karens.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #27174965 - 01/28/21 05:18 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

Because what china did was absolutely fucked. You have no rights there. The lockdowns are debatable because a lot of people dont think we should ruin the economy and indirectly force people onto the streets and into poverty over a virus thats unlikely to impact them very much.
The people who should lock down are those who are vulnerable.
You think everyone should lock down because maybe 5% if that, of the population is at risk? Get the fuck out of here, virus or no virus it shouldn't impact our rights and freedoms


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
    #27174998 - 01/28/21 05:37 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

Well, see, this is exactly why China's economy is booming.

They didn't worry about rights, susceptibility to disease, vulnerable populations, no. They nailed people's doors shut and soldiers patrolled the street with (allegedly) orders to shoot on sight.

That's why China recovered from covid faster than anyone else, that's why their economy grew in 2020, and that's why we're whining about it.

Because we fucked up. We are continuing to fuck up. And we really don't want to take responsibility for that.

You can debate lockdowns all you want, but the fact is, our economy runs on spending. I'm not going out, and I'm not spending. Lockdown or no, I don't want to risk getting covid. I've been putting my money in GME and watching Hedge Funds cry about it.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Kryptos]
    #27175011 - 01/28/21 05:49 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

Lol do you agree with that conduct? It seems you have a lot of gripes with the usa but cant even bring yourself to criticize china one iota.
How can your economy not boom when you use  slave labor and have next to no human rights?
Literally no one is complaining about their economy but rather complaining about the ccps conduct. Which was less than humane.
How can you possibly say they recovered from covid? Thats just Chinese propaganda. They have no freedom of press and control their internet. How can you believe anything they say? They lie about literally everything


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27175056 - 01/28/21 06:14 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

:popcorn:

USA economy was great in 2019.

All cause mortality was on par right up until about a week after 'lock down' in many states.

Stress kills.

Put millions of people out of work and they will suffer stress related illnesses.

Nevermind deaths of despair.

Suicides were up in 2020. Overdoses as well.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #27175059 - 01/28/21 06:16 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

Don't forget about 400,000 killed by a pandemic that was largely ignored by our President.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Enlil]
    #27175065 - 01/28/21 06:20 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

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Don't forget about 400,000 killed by a pandemic that was largely ignored by our President.




While they turn people away at hospitals without treatment, saying to come back when symptoms worsen?

:whateveryousayfreak:

Average 2.6 other underlying comorbidities.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #27175076 - 01/28/21 06:28 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

It was just a coincidence that they all had the virus when they died.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #27175084 - 01/28/21 06:30 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

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It was just a coincidence that they all had the virus when they died.




Many never were tested and presumed to be covid positive.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #27175086 - 01/28/21 06:34 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

What i find hilarious is that when some 80 year old guy dies from covid, he died from covid and nothing else, even tho he had cancer, diabetes and 1 foot already out the door.
But when someone dies after receiving the vaccine they scream " no no the vaccine didn't kill him he was already vulnerable and had X disease or illness" and how no ones sees this blatant hypocrisy is beyond me


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #27175088 - 01/28/21 06:34 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

Sure they weren't.  400k extra people just happened to die in America at the same time as a pandemic was raging and those 400k just happened to have the same symptoms as the pandemic.

I'm sure it's all coincidence, though.

You have check out of all rational thought at this point.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
    #27175101 - 01/28/21 06:41 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

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What i find hilarious is that when some 80 year old guy dies from covid, he died from covid and nothing else, even tho he had cancer, diabetes and 1 foot already out the door.
But when someone dies after receiving the vaccine they scream " no no the vaccine didn't kill him he was already vulnerable and had X disease or illness" and how no ones sees this blatant hypocrisy is beyond me



400,000 people are dead today that wouldn't be if it weren't for Covid.  When the vaccine is proven to kill even 1% as many as the disease, then maybe I will have a fuck to give about your crybaby whining about it.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
    #27175102 - 01/28/21 06:42 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

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Lol do you agree with that conduct?




In the case of a global pandemic, yup. That's what an effective quarantine looks like. Those same soldiers (allegedly) delivered groceries to the people locked inside their houses, and those people didn't have to worry about evictions.

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It seems you have a lot of gripes with the usa but cant even bring yourself to criticize china one iota.




There are plenty of things I don't like about China. I don't like their drug laws. I don't like their internet censorship. I don't like their warmongering in SE asia.

It just so happens that none of those things are routinely discussed, and mentioning them is irrelevant to most discussions. The fact that those issues are limited to China and the immediate surrounding areas makes them largely irrelevant to this forum (which I'm sure is banned in China). Unlike the US, China hasn't recently made it its business to routinely stick their nose in everybody's shit.

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How can your economy not boom when you use slave labor and have next to no human rights?




Both median income and average income in China has been rising steadily in recent years, as has life expectancy. This means that there is continuously less slavery and less human rights violations. The US currently happens to be trending in the opposite direction. If you don't believe the numbers, then explain why there are more and more Chinese tourists every year.

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Literally no one is complaining about their economy but rather complaining about the ccps conduct. Which was less than humane.




I'm not saying it was humane, I'm saying it was the right solution to the problem. Covid isn;t a situation where you can win. Covid is a situation where the best outcome is losing less. China lost less. Considering that in a capitalist world, "economy" is a direct measure of victory, this means that the economy is always involved.

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How can you possibly say they recovered from covid? Thats just Chinese propaganda. They have no freedom of press and control their internet. How can you believe anything they say? They lie about literally everything




Because if they didn't, their economy would resemble that of the US. You don't have to trust the numbers released by the state. There is plenty of other data points to look at. When it comes to economics, the best data point is power generation. The bigger your economy, the more energy it consumes. It's also one of those things that is very hard (or very expensive) to fake. Same with infrastructure. China keeps building more power plants. They're the global leader in Solar Energy right now. China is also pouring more concrete every day.

A close analogy would be how weed growers were (and still are) busted: nobody cares about their denials when their electric bill suddenly jumps by the same wattage that they just bought in HID lamps.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
    #27175107 - 01/28/21 06:43 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

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Because what china did was absolutely fucked. You have no rights there. The lockdowns are debatable because a lot of people dont think we should ruin the economy and indirectly force people onto the streets and into poverty over a virus thats unlikely to impact them very much.
The people who should lock down are those who are vulnerable.
You think everyone should lock down because maybe 5% if that, of the population is at risk? Get the fuck out of here, virus or no virus it shouldn't impact our rights and freedoms



China had the best economy in the world in 2020 because of their lockdowns


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