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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27167352 - 01/24/21 02:19 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Well...this plate


got me these stones



So there's no consistent proof to the statement that yellowed agar mycelium equals stones.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: redeyesmj]
    #27167375 - 01/24/21 02:33 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Would just standard Masters Mix work on these?

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: coAsTal]
    #27167399 - 01/24/21 02:44 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I think I got some type of fetish for stone producer mycelium
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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Ambrose]
    #27167407 - 01/24/21 02:49 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I have a theory it's more about water content and environment.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #27167425 - 01/24/21 03:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Why doesn't someone run a good proven culture in 2 different tubs, one in a humid/high fae environment and the other in a cube? I guarantee you'll see less stones in the first one


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Wall.E]
    #27167662 - 01/24/21 05:30 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Are you saying stones would form more in the jar or in a bulk bag as opposed to spawned to bulk in a mono or something?


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: zentatonic]
    #27167684 - 01/24/21 05:38 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Would just standard Masters Mix work on these?




Probably not. Masters mix is hardwood pellets and soybean hulls. These guys you'll want to use either a coir or manure based substrate.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: PitcherCrab]
    #27167708 - 01/24/21 05:56 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Will Jalisco fruit on coir, too?

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: zentatonic]
    #27167711 - 01/24/21 05:57 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I believe so! Some other folks more familiar with Jalisco may chime in with more information.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: PitcherCrab]
    #27167727 - 01/24/21 06:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

All the Mexicana and Tampanensis will perform on the same subs/conditions as they're almost identical
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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: coAsTal] * 1
    #27167745 - 01/24/21 06:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)


Built a JCM style FC for doing pans... can I also use this to try to fruit Tamps? I've got a half dozen shoeboxes with monster stones but none will fruit... threw 2 in there as testers. Will update when something happens...

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: roarkell]
    #27167764 - 01/24/21 06:21 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Nice clean looking JCM roarkell. I like that you have all the cabled and air tubes tucked away. What I've read in this thread is that you can use a Pan FC for tamps and mexicana but they won't produce as many stones because of the high RH.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #27167771 - 01/24/21 06:25 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Are you saying stones would form more in the jar or in a bulk bag as opposed to spawned to bulk in a mono or something?




No I'm saying you'd get more stones in suboptimal conditions.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: PitcherCrab]
    #27167789 - 01/24/21 06:32 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Nice clean looking JCM roarkell. I like that you have all the cabled and air tubes tucked away. What I've read in this thread is that you can use a Pan FC for tamps and mexicana but they won't produce as many stones because of the high RH.




Awesome! I'm gonna see what these do then... ill post pics as necessary... lol

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: roarkell]
    #27167797 - 01/24/21 06:35 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Looking forward to it!


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Wall.E] * 1
    #27167802 - 01/24/21 06:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I totally understand your reasoning. I mean that's probably why it creates stones in the first place but after being breed for generations, selecting strains that produce stones consistently just from my experience I'd say I've gotten more stones out of a good grow opposed to a grow where the condition were suboptimal.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: roarkell]
    #27167909 - 01/24/21 07:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Built a JCM style FC for doing pans... can I also use this to try to fruit Tamps? I've got a half dozen shoeboxes with monster stones but none will fruit... threw 2 in there as testers. Will update when something happens...




I think it will work great if you're looking for fruits.
Especially compared to a shoebox which for me was hard to dial in for Tamps(too dry.)



Here's a great grow by C10 using the chamber:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26565367/fpart/8/vc/1#26565367

And another great one by roundabout who I believe was also using the chamber:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27099940#27099940

So if you're looking for fruit then yes it'll work

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Ambrose]
    #27167914 - 01/24/21 07:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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Built a JCM style FC for doing pans... can I also use this to try to fruit Tamps? I've got a half dozen shoeboxes with monster stones but none will fruit... threw 2 in there as testers. Will update when something happens...




I think it will work great if you're looking for fruits.
Especially compared to a shoebox which for me was hard to dial in for Tamps(too dry.)



Here's a great grow by C10 using the chamber:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26565367/fpart/8/vc/1#26565367

And another great one by roundabout who I believe was also using the chamber:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27099940#27099940

So if you're looking for fruit then yes it'll work




Good shit bro! Thanks for the links! I'm hoping to get some fruits for prints so I can spread the love!

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: roarkell]
    #27168022 - 01/24/21 09:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah don’t be afraid to get them wet like pans.

My first shot at atl they all aborted at a couple inches tall from being too dry. Tamps see to be a little more tolerant of dryness in my limited experience.


My Jalisco from last week that was slow had mold in it. I spawned a new jar the other day and it’s off and running so hopefully I finally get to see some pins.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27169821 - 01/25/21 07:48 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you guys for all the responses..

What about this one? I had to leave them while I was traveling and come home to this:



What do you think? It’s in a shoebox with little FAE
It looks like just myc growing on top of it right? Or could it be another mold?


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