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Covid vaccination
    #27149002 - 01/15/21 04:56 AM (1 month, 10 days ago)

This thread is to discuss the pros and cons of the covid vaccine.
Are you worried about potential side effects?

Should not being vaccinated restrict your travel?

Is anyone worried that the vaccine was rushed?

What are your general thoughts on vaccines?

Some governments have said they would deny  benefits to those who refuse vaccinations, is this morally right?

Should privacy trump safety? Are you okay with digital passports and things of that nature?

Discuss!
Would you voluntarily take the vaccine?
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No
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Should the vaccine be forced?
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Politics and vaccination
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Im more right wing and would take it
Im more right wing and wouldn't take it
Im a Centrist and would take it
Im a centrist and wouldn't take it
Im more left wing and would take it
Im more left wing and wouldn't take it
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Re: Covid vaccination [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27149383 - 01/15/21 11:02 AM (1 month, 10 days ago)

Forgot to add as a poll question, but what are your guys thoughts on employers requiring employees to be vaccinated?
I get the argument that an employer can enforce whatever rules he wants or you can work elsewhere thing, but do you think an employer should be able to dictate what goes into someone's body?
Dont you think its kind of a dystopian future we're living in where an employer can more or less forcefully vaccinate you?


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Re: Covid vaccination [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
    #27149436 - 01/15/21 11:37 AM (1 month, 10 days ago)

Antivax propaganda will not be allowed in this forum.  If people want to talk about the covid vax rollout, that's fine, but any general antivax propaganda belongs in the conspiracy forum.  This is just a friendly heads-up for people participating in this thread so that we can avoid issues down the road.


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Re: Covid vaccination [Re: Enlil]
    #27150694 - 01/16/21 01:00 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

so saying anything negative about covid vax is propaganda/conspiracy?


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Re: Covid vaccination [Re: TheBoJim]
    #27150696 - 01/16/21 01:01 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

I wouldn't say that.


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Re: Covid vaccination [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #27150754 - 01/16/21 02:37 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

Are you worried about potential side effects?

No, reported side effects are minor compared to the effects of COVID. I know which I'd choose.

Should not being vaccinated restrict your travel?

People who are vaccinated may still be able to transmit the virus so they shouldn't behave differently to vaccinated people or be granted special privileges.

Is anyone worried that the vaccine was rushed?

No, it was developed quickly compared to previous vaccines but that's because of the money and effort directed at it, and the science continuously getting more awesome

What are your general thoughts on vaccines?

The greatest invention in the history of medicine

Some governments have said they would deny benefits to those who refuse vaccinations, is this morally right?

I'd say it was inadvisable


Should privacy trump safety? Are you okay with digital passports and things of that nature?


Not really sure what you're getting at but digital things are generally better than paper things and this isn't related to privacy issues which should be addressed properly.


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Re: Covid vaccination [Re: mm.]
    #27154672 - 01/18/21 05:59 AM (1 month, 7 days ago)

The main ones aren't vaccines they are gen-therapy. I don't want to trick my immune system into accepting modified (U becomes Ψ) mRNA into my ribosome. When I can fight it with quercetin, zinc, some plants and an immune system.

The vaccine with the old method I might get it if it becomes obligatory.

Since this is pd. I want to add that I'm against all this government control, destruction of the middle class, media frenzy and lockdowns. I'm more left leaning, open borders and all that.

I'm scared post-covid is going to be like post 9/11.


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Re: Covid vaccination [Re: mm.]
    #27156636 - 01/19/21 04:27 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

I think it depends on your health and age but the side effects from the vaccine seem worse than actually getting it. You also cant sue of you suffered any adverse side effects


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Re: Covid vaccination [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27156660 - 01/19/21 04:56 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

That's because there's a government program that compensates people that suffer adverse effects from the covid vaccine, including covering all related medical costs, lost employment income, and death benefits for next of kin.


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Re: Covid vaccination [Re: Kryptos]
    #27156740 - 01/19/21 06:41 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

Quote:

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That's because there's a government program that compensates people that suffer adverse effects from the covid vaccine, including covering all related medical costs, lost employment income, and death benefits for next of kin.




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Re: Covid vaccination [Re: HamHead]
    #27156747 - 01/19/21 06:47 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)



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Re: Covid vaccination [Re: Kryptos]
    #27156813 - 01/19/21 08:01 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

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https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp




Thanks.

"You have ONE YEAR from the date you were administered or used the covered countermeasure alleged to have caused the injury to request benefits."

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Re: Covid vaccination [Re: HamHead]
    #27157148 - 01/19/21 12:12 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

done had the covid, so no i think not.  it wasnt bad.  had a fever for a few hrs, cough lasted two days, and had some nasal congestion for a day.  so yeah, its just a normal cold.


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Re: Covid vaccination [Re: HamHead]
    #27157155 - 01/19/21 12:17 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

Quote:

HamHead said:
Quote:

Kryptos said:
That's because there's a government program that compensates people that suffer adverse effects from the covid vaccine, including covering all related medical costs, lost employment income, and death benefits for next of kin.




Links?




Seriously? How do you not know this already?


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Re: Covid vaccination [Re: Enlil]
    #27157183 - 01/19/21 12:39 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

Quote:

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Antivax propaganda will not be allowed in this forum.  If people want to talk about the covid vax rollout, that's fine, but any general antivax propaganda belongs in the conspiracy forum.  This is just a friendly heads-up for people participating in this thread so that we can avoid issues down the road.






Wise decision to avoid endless "red pills" about the medical equivalent of the earth being flat.


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Re: Covid vaccination [Re: Asante]
    #27158306 - 01/19/21 10:33 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

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TheBoJim said:
so saying anything negative about covid vax is propaganda/conspiracy?




Why this thread is in political discussion confuses me.


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Re: Covid vaccination [Re: HamHead]
    #27158991 - 01/20/21 10:42 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

You can say negative things about the vax if they're from the medical mainstream.

The mods reacted to a long history of conspiracy lore about vaccinations, that was not supported by the medical mainstream. Are they stifling debate? Yes, but the the alternative is a huge shit show of unfounded allegations. Just like the election debate.


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Re: Covid vaccination [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27159012 - 01/20/21 10:54 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

:whathesaid:

The point of moderation is to keep things moderate. And to those who think I'm heavy handed, I promise if I weren't a mod here, some of you would be long gone.


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Re: Covid vaccination [Re: Enlil]
    #27160677 - 01/21/21 06:22 AM (1 month, 4 days ago)

Rolling out the vaccinations.. First critical personnel.. then those at greatest risk.. then those of moderate risk.. then Democrats.. then Republicans :evil:


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