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#25751127 - 01/18/19 10:37 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anyone here that eats insects as a protein source?
I got into a discussion about sustanibility regarding to how and what we eat.
Our protein source and the enviormental inpact tradiconal sources has came up.
Over two billon people already eats insect so way cant we?
So i wounder if any of you have eaten insects or even breed insects for food.
Tips, pointers, recepies any constructive feed back would be nice
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Re: Insects as a protein source? [Re: Student6]
#25751431 - 01/18/19 01:08 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have not, but I read an article about some sort of pet food which was made from insect protein which is interesting I thought.
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Re: Insects as a protein source? [Re: Student6]
#25759192 - 01/21/19 06:11 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Which grow more protein per gram vs dollar amount of food put in?
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Re: Insects as a protein source? [Re: GabbaDj]
#25760923 - 01/22/19 01:20 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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The field cricket contains up to 26grams protein per 100gram if given propper food.
To get 1kilogram of cricket you need to feed them 1,7kilograms of food.
They can live of foodwaste, fruit, vegetables, dog and catfood, diffrent kind of grains and so on...
So of 1,7kilograms cheap food you get 260g of protein.
They are easy to breed and grow fast, you can harvest them at 35 days.
IMO thats pretty awsome,
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Re: Insects as a protein source? [Re: Student6]
#25770266 - 01/26/19 02:48 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh yes humans require insects for basic nutrition we cannot get from other things. Though we are capable of getting the nutrients we need from regular foods and stuff people eat now but many have de-evolved to not consume insects though the micro nutrients are very beneficial for us and many have abandoned old ways. But yes humans should consume insects though some have toxins.
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Well the whole point is to leave a smaler enviormental footprint. The Meat industry is not a sustanibil option for protein as the human population is growing and we have more mouth to feed.
Yes some of then are toxic but we can neglect them as food. Only i Mexiko there is 549 edible insect species.
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Re: Insects as a protein source? [Re: Student6]
#25772928 - 01/27/19 06:06 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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549 edible species seems very low even as an estimate.
This book describes 978 species, probably most of them are edible,
Grasshoppers, Locusts, Crickets and Katydids of Mexico / Chapulines, Langostas, Grillos y Esperanzas de México Photographic Guide / Guía Fotográfica
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Language: Bilingual in English and Spanish
This is the first volume of the series WBA Handbooks, dedicated to the Orthoptera of Mexico. Paolo Fontana and Filippo Maria Buzzetti, WBA members, made indefatigable and profitable investigations during several naturalistic expeditions in Mexico and produced a book that is a commendable example of scientific popularization. The authors succeed in combining the rigorousness of the informations, supported by an identification key to families and sub-families, and the first complete check-list of mexican Orthoptera (978 species!), with a wide range of informations and a very rich iconography. In a few words, an easily consultable handbook cut out also for field investigations, seeking for the extraordinary life forms here described.
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Re: Insects as a protein source? [Re: falcon] 1
#25773533 - 01/27/19 10:33 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Woow cool
And thats just the orthopteras, imagine how many it would be if they include even more orders of insects.
Here in Sweden we only Have 37 spiches of orthoptera.
I thinke i expresed my self unclear regarding edebel insects in Mexico.
Acording a book im reading They eat 549 spicies of insects.
Im shure there are even more consumebel insects in Mexico.
Great news guys
Iwe been reading some about this and decided to start breeding mealworm to start with.
And then zophopas, i was thinking crikets first but larvea is easier.
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Re: Insects as a protein source? [Re: Student6]
#25775248 - 01/28/19 05:41 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cricket and lichen powder sounds good, as is seaweed and nutritional yeast.
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Re: Insects as a protein source? [Re: AndyHinton]
#25775700 - 01/28/19 10:23 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Powderd insects is a Great way to introduced insects as food.
30 years ago they dident eat shrimps in Finland becuse it was grose. But over time the attitude has change and now they eat them in Finland.
I belive thats just as with insects and people in general, the attitude will change.
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Re: Insects as a protein source? [Re: Student6]
#25801224 - 02/09/19 10:20 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've eaten nsects, grasshoppers, ants, bees, beetle grubs and others. I'm an opertunistic eater of bugs these days, I don't go out of my way looking for them anymore, but if I happen upon something thats good it's a snack. The best that I've tried are wood inhabiting grubs and ant larva. One thing I will go out of the way for that I haven't tried is Cicada, I'd like to catch some after they emerge from the ground, but before they put on thier adult form and have those hard outer bodies
I think they are good source of protien, but not better than plant based protiens unless they were eating some plants that were for some reason aren't a good edible for people. Feeding them grains would give a better yeild of protein than livestock, but raising them on grass or vegetables would yeild a better fat composition for people to eat IMO.
If I was to raise them though, I'd start with grain or bran fron grain, probably be the least hassle. Want to hear how it goes with your mealworm farming.
Last year the Robins were not finding much to eat as it was colder than normal when they came back. Bought a bag of dried mealworms from the feed store and fed them some of them about a month, they were happy. Thought about growing mealworms at the time, but didn't put much effort into seeing what was needed to do that. Cheers!
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Re: Insects as a protein source? [Re: falcon]
#27149137 - 01/15/21 05:05 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Insects as a protein source? [Re: Student6]
#27150187 - 01/15/21 05:29 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I eat pidgeon, man.
Edited by falcon (01/15/21 06:29 PM)
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 Re: Insects as a protein source? [Re: Student6]
#27151257 - 01/16/21 11:01 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, just no. And yes people will eat anything in this world. Watched a lot of the traveling food shows and is amazing what people will eat. I get sustainability and am a vegetarian but the only way I am eating fucking beetles or insects or crickets, ants, etc. is if I get lost on a long hike/camp and am starving. They teach you that in survival camp that my parents made me take when I was a kid. Water is everything, you can go forever without food.
To each their own though. No judgement. Just never eat dog meat in some countries and wouldn't recommend horse meat either like in Japan. Or do. On goeth life.
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Re: Insects as a protein source? [Re: Barnaby] 1
#27159668 - 01/20/21 02:07 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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The first obvious drawback that comes to mind is any and all consumption of the insect's bowels and the harmful microbes/toxins it contains. There are almost certainly other organs/body parts that are not ideal for consumption.
Regarding sustainability, people could go a long way by preparing their food before it spoils. Citrus peels can be squirted to release their nice smelling oil into the air, killing harmful microbes, and the peel can then be broken into pieces and blended into an ice/water fruit smoothie.
There is so much work to be done regarding sustainability and things to be done in our world; I do not consider eating insects to be a priority.
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Yeah, I agree. Grateful I had a friend that got me into oils diffused in the air. And another one that taught me about nutrition.
Read your post and I get it, let food be thy medicine. Blood Orange is a great one. Or if I have a cough and stuffed up peppermint or so many others.
Also worked and made my way to head cook at a rest home. Nutritionist came in because she payed the money and graduated but was around 250 or more pounds and I just rolled my eyes. Not that I was trying to save the world just, that is the American education system at it's most idiotic. I just kept my mouth shut.
I am not superior to anyone. But this, was difficult to do.
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