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Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021!
    #27157727 - 01/19/21 05:45 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

Thanks roarkell

This is a grow along for his APE giveaway. Please use this thread to share your grow. This is not a competition or a race. Inspect it today, or next month, or a few months after.... but let’s see it! Thanks Roar for the awesome generosity to the Tribe!


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Moabfighter] * 1
    #27157741 - 01/19/21 05:53 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

Doing what I can to spread the love! Here's some more APE that are gonna get cloned in a few minutes!

Gonna take some swabs from the big bastard in the front box... start those off fresh!

Wish you all the best of luck!


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: roarkell]
    #27157796 - 01/19/21 06:28 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

Quote:

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Doing what I can to spread the love! Here's some more APE that are gonna get cloned in a few minutes!

Gonna take some swabs from the big bastard in the front box... start those off fresh!

Wish you all the best of luck!




Dude one of those fat honkers would destroy me to oblivion lol. Wow.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Moabfighter]
    #27157829 - 01/19/21 06:45 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

Hey guys I’m new here. I bought a grow kit and this is my first time with a buddy of mine. We got some instructions from the guy we bought the grow kit from but here’s the start. Taking more pics in a hour or so.  any advice would be helpful.

When to mist?
Fruiting?
Infections?



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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Khan38]
    #27157868 - 01/19/21 07:08 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

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Hey guys I’m new here. I bought a grow kit and this is my first time with a buddy of mine. We got some instructions from the guy we bought the grow kit from but here’s the start. Taking more pics in a hour or so.  any advice would be helpful.

When to mist?
Fruiting?
Infections?






Wrong thread for this man. Sorry.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Moabfighter]
    #27157878 - 01/19/21 07:17 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

Okay thanks! Sorry, very new to this page and trying to figure it out haha 😅


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: roarkell]
    #27157974 - 01/19/21 08:08 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

Quote:

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Doing what I can to spread the love! Here's some more APE that are gonna get cloned in a few minutes!

Gonna take some swabs from the big bastard in the front box... start those off fresh!

Wish you all the best of luck!




I have some colonizing at the moment. If I get one of those fatties, I will be so happy! How many times did you clone until fruiting that monster?


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Blazer Man]
    #27158116 - 01/19/21 09:06 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

This is third round clones I believe... I have so many different clones going... lol


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: roarkell]
    #27158122 - 01/19/21 09:08 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

Hell yea, I'm gettin in on this. I'll bury swabs tomorrow. Thanks again Roar.

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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27158391 - 01/19/21 11:35 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

Will be posting here! :rockon:


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27158407 - 01/19/21 11:48 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

:crazymonkey: Doctor Mario's ROARing Apes Grow Log :crazymonkey:


1/19/2021

Cut a swab into 4 pieces and loosely buried it into a plate. Great things to come.  :alc:


1/31/2021

Buried the other swab tonight. The last plate didn't do anything except for grow some pretty pink bacteria in one spot.


Maybe the other swab will do somethin for me.


2/3/2021

The 2nd swab germinated somethin. Still not sure if it's myc. Looks kinda funny. Took transfers anyway.


2/4/2021

Yep, I definitely transferred mold...



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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27158481 - 01/20/21 12:45 AM (1 month, 13 days ago)

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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: van hatton]
    #27158560 - 01/20/21 02:09 AM (1 month, 13 days ago)

Can someone sport me a link to the offer via PM, please? I'd like to play, too.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: OldManRiver]
    #27163616 - 01/22/21 03:56 PM (1 month, 11 days ago)

I'll reserve a spot here! big thanks to roarkell for the swabs

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Streaked 4 plates on Jan. 27, fingers crossed very tight


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: roarkell]
    #27163634 - 01/22/21 04:03 PM (1 month, 11 days ago)

Quote:

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This is third round clones I believe... I have so many different clones going... lol




is this 3rd round as in you grew MS 3 times and attempted to clone off each before you found a winner?
or you cloned, fruited it and cloned from that grow ect..?


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Camera93]
    #27163756 - 01/22/21 05:07 PM (1 month, 11 days ago)

I can't wait to get in on this. Still patiently waiting for that magic day my swab shows up....


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Camera93]
    #27163851 - 01/22/21 05:50 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

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Quote:

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This is third round clones I believe... I have so many different clones going... lol




is this 3rd round as in you grew MS 3 times and attempted to clone off each before you found a winner?
or you cloned, fruited it and cloned from that grow ect..?




That is what I was after. haha My fault for not making precise inquiries. Womp womp...


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Blazer Man]
    #27163993 - 01/22/21 06:56 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

Clone of a clone of a clone... lol... most of my APEs that perform at all are clones of clones...


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: roarkell]
    #27164017 - 01/22/21 07:08 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

Right on Roar!


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Blazer Man]
    #27164033 - 01/22/21 07:21 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Josex]
    #27167507 - 01/24/21 06:06 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

I missed out on LAGM. This could be fun too.

Jan 24: Agar plates swabbed, last one cut small strand into.

Feb 2: First signs of germ on strands
Feb 4: Growth spreading!


Feb 5: First Transfer
Feb 13: T1 growing uneven

Uneven growth made for stalled out T2, time to backtrack to germ plate

Feb 17: another T1 plate made
Feb 22: looking better. Second Transfers cut.



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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: D_T.eonanacatl]
    #27167596 - 01/24/21 06:56 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

No you didn't. LAGM is open all year. Just tell Gypsy what varieties you want to enter with.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27167635 - 01/24/21 07:14 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Why not do both? Lol


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: roarkell]
    #27167707 - 01/24/21 07:55 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Two plates for the APE swab: one contam and one a light circle of growth??
Next time I use a swab going for more plates for that swab.

14 January, 2021:
Well...
       

Progress is progress, no matter how small...  :lol:

20 January, 2021:
From five plates with four wedges ea. Transferred two plates, 4 wedges ea. of SW APE for T2.

Well I think I'm learning. I'm realizing it's a numbers game.
I've started putting four wedges per plate. So last one was 20 wedges,
so it's like 20 plates! But only five.
And out of that I managed to go T2, two plates for 8 chances at a winner!

Also I've started looking at the growth with a strong magnifying glass from
the back as the growth shows better. Learning to look for straighter, better organized.


21 January, 2021:
Ok, swabbed four plates, including the swab tip last one.
So, second try. Nothing to see yet...

28 January, 2021:
So has anyone else looked at their swab doing nothing in the plate and
ripped it out and shredded it to three other plates?  :lol:

                          7 days old
And just look at the contam coming from behind where I held the swab.

Then I had a second thought that I should have put a drop of water on each.
Anyway just a noob larnin 'bout swabbin!

(ya really lumpy green agar, more larnin!  )
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28 January, 2021:


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Inthepit]
    #27167803 - 01/24/21 08:41 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Still waiting for mine to germ 😬


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27167892 - 01/24/21 09:41 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Being stubborn, eh? I haven't tested any of the most recent batch on agar yet... I should run a control plate or 2...


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: roarkell]
    #27167923 - 01/24/21 10:00 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Eh, it's only been 4 days and burying swabs seems to always be 3-5 days slower than loop streaks. I'll give it another 5 days and if I don't see anything, I'll put a drop of sterilized water over each part of the buried swab and see if that makes em pop.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27168934 - 01/25/21 01:36 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

1/25/2021

Rolled one swab to two PastyPlates. Temps will be in the mid to upper 60s for germination. I will keep this thread updated once I have growth.

1/29/2021

I took Roar’s advice and tossed a space heater in my germination room to get my temps up. I noticed a tiny white spot on one of my plates yesterday which if it’s not a contam, would be 3 days to germinate. It’s slightly off center of where I swabbed.

Now that some of the condensation has cleared up in my plates, the exact center of the plate where I first made contact with the swab is starting to look like germination may be starting there. I will know for sure by the end of the weekend.

2/1/2021

The small dot on one of my plates hasn’t changed at all since my last post. No growth, no color change, no nothing. Still no idea if it’s a contam or spore germination. I will monitor. Nothing on the other plate.

In the meantime, I took the remaining swab and streaked a few more plates and buried the swab in one of them.

Hoping for some success on this round.

2/7/2021

We have liftoff! The only growth I see is in the plate where I buried the swab.



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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Scrimshaw]
    #27168951 - 01/25/21 01:42 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

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1/25/2021

Rolled one swab to two PastyPlates. Temps will be in the mid to upper 60s for germination. I will keep this thread updated once I have growth.




You might wanna find a warmer spot to set them until you get some germination... APE  are notoriously slow and a lot of people have some difficulty getting germination from swabs in general... just my 2 cents tho... hopefully you get something to pop...


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: roarkell]
    #27172049 - 01/27/21 02:08 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

Thanks for the swabs, roar!

I put one of the swab tips in the bottom of measuring cup and repeatedly sprayed it with 30ml of distilled water from a syringe, an extreme bastardization of faht's tek. After a few cycles, I put a drop in an inoculation loop and streaked a pair of plates. Then I cut the tip in half and streaked another pair of plates. All 4 plates were 1% agar, 1.5% LME. I'll hold onto the other swab, in case this doesn't work out.

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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: capntrips7]
    #27172072 - 01/27/21 02:37 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

Just saw this pop up. I’m jumping in on this, my swabs are from Roar through a trade. Took some effort to germ but I have 8 colonizing grain jars now. All have been shook and should be ready for spawn in the next couple weeks depending.


Pre Shake (20JAN)


Recovery on 23JAN

I shook again yesterday to speed things up a bit. Recovery looks good, no pic yet.

All jars were noc’d with small agar wedges and took forever to colonize, I would recommend using larger or more pieces for faster colonization.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: roarkell]
    #27174051 - 01/28/21 07:45 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

So has anyone else looked at their swab doing nothing in the plate and
ripped it out and shredded it to three other plates?  :lol:

                          7 days old
And just look at the contam coming from behind where I held the swab.

Then I had a second thought that I should have put a drop of water on each.
Anyway just a noob larnin 'bout swabbin!

(ya really lumpy green agar, more larnin!  )
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Split 2 jars grn & blu/red 🍒 325ml


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Inthepit]
    #27174064 - 01/28/21 08:06 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

I'll hop in when I get my Roarin' swab.
I've been having troubles with germinating swabs, poured from softer agar yesterday... Will report back!


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Inthepit] * 1
    #27174068 - 01/28/21 08:08 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

Was frustrated at germing plates with swabs over the past couple months and got tired of just burying the whole swab in the plate so I started to use a fresh sterile 28g needle to rip a tuft of spore laden cotton off the swab which I then drag down into the middle of a thickly poured plate so it's sammiched around with agar like the tip of a buried swab would get.

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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: starbones]
    #27175231 - 01/28/21 10:30 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

About how long until you guys are seeing germination? Mine still aren't growing anything except for a really small spot blue bacteria.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27175281 - 01/28/21 11:13 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

I didn’t document a timeline on germination :facepalm:

I am having good germ luck with an 8g lme 8g agar to 400ml distilled water recipe in combination with dipping the swab in sterile water first.
Another good tek with swabs has been using this brf puck recipe and taking a few strands off the swab and shoving it in the puck.

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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Tankie_J]
    #27175533 - 01/29/21 05:50 AM (1 month, 4 days ago)

I've been swimming in work the past few weeks... if I get some free time tonight, I'll swab another round of these just so you guys can have a look at how I do shit... hopefully that'll help!


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: roarkell]
    #27175551 - 01/29/21 06:14 AM (1 month, 4 days ago)

I haven't been getting anything, but I'm so noob.

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2 plates  swab 1 1/1 one plate brown glossy bacterial at swab  10g 2% Agar, 7.5g 1.5% LME, 500ml
4 plates swab 2 1/21 4 plates plus the tip, Roar
3 plates swab 2 1/28 Shredded swab2 to 3 plates

I'm tempted to add a drop of water to the swab tip shreds,
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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Inthepit]
    #27175639 - 01/29/21 08:26 AM (1 month, 4 days ago)

I dont usually have issues with spore hydration... I don't even alter my agar recipe for germ plates...


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: roarkell]
    #27176031 - 01/29/21 12:54 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

Got my swabs! Going to pop them on agar next time I set up the SAB.
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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: anatomality]
    #27176044 - 01/29/21 01:02 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

Getting in on this, thanks roar!



Swiped two plates and then buried the swab. I'm going to rip a few strands off the other swab and bury them, seems that's the way to go.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: ragehottie]
    #27176094 - 01/29/21 01:32 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

1/29/2021

I took Roar’s advice and tossed a space heater in my germination room to get my temps up. I noticed a tiny white spot on one of my plates yesterday which if it’s not a contam, would be 3 days to germinate. It’s slightly off center of where I swabbed.

Now that some of the condensation has cleared up in my plates, the exact center of the plate where I first made contact with the swab is starting to look like germination may be starting there. I will know for sure by the end of the weekend.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Scrimshaw]
    #27176487 - 01/29/21 05:47 PM (1 month, 3 days ago)

Good shit! And I'd be wary of the one that's a little off... I was as clean as I could be but there's no guarantees in this hobby... lol

Side note, gonna fire up the hood here in a minute... got 20 jars to nocc up and then if I still have a few plates left ill jump in with you guys!


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: roarkell]
    #27177395 - 01/30/21 06:22 AM (1 month, 3 days ago)

Streaked 4 plates and left the swab in the kast one.

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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Puduwoke]
    #27177400 - 01/30/21 06:29 AM (1 month, 3 days ago)

I'd join in on this if someone has swabs available :begger: I've gotten some from various people, but never had growth. No contaminants, no myc :shrug:


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Quirkmeister92]
    #27177594 - 01/30/21 10:31 AM (1 month, 3 days ago)

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I'd join in on this if someone has swabs available :begger: I've gotten some from various people, but never had growth. No contaminants, no myc :shrug:




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    #27180034 - 01/31/21 11:54 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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Getting in on this, thanks roar!



Swiped two plates and then buried the swab. I'm going to rip a few strands off the other swab and bury them, seems that's the way to go.




Seems I already have some germination! Plates have been kept at 69F to facilitate foreplay :naughty:



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    #27180105 - 02/01/21 12:54 AM (1 month, 1 day ago)

1/31/2021
Buried the other swab tonight. The last plate didn't do anything except for grow some pretty pink bacteria in one spot.


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    #27180170 - 02/01/21 02:46 AM (1 month, 1 day ago)

Just came into this thread late. Nothing to contribute right now, but ill be having some dank fresh APE swabs ill be giving away pretty soon. Been a good year since I did a giveaway. Just a heads up. :awesomenod:


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Smartattack]
    #27180255 - 02/01/21 05:54 AM (1 month, 1 day ago)

Got decent looking growth coming around the stick of the buried swab:



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    #27180272 - 02/01/21 06:22 AM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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Just came into this thread late. Nothing to contribute right now, but ill be having some dank fresh APE swabs ill be giving away pretty soon. Been a good year since I did a giveaway. Just a heads up. :awesomenod:




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    #27180289 - 02/01/21 06:38 AM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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Just came into this thread late. Nothing to contribute right now, but ill be having some dank fresh APE swabs ill be giving away pretty soon. Been a good year since I did a giveaway. Just a heads up. :awesomenod:



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    #27181126 - 02/01/21 04:10 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

2/1/2021

The small dot on one of my plates hasn’t changed at all since my last post. No growth, no color change, no nothing. Still no idea if it’s a contam or spore germination. I will monitor. Nothing on the other plate.

In the meantime, I took the remaining swab and streaked a few more plates and buried the swab in one of them.

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    #27181362 - 02/01/21 06:42 PM (1 month, 22 hours ago)

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Seems I already have some germination! Plates have been kept at 69F to facilitate foreplay :naughty:






Oof I'm not sure that's the blue on the swab anymore...


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    #27181474 - 02/01/21 07:49 PM (1 month, 21 hours ago)

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Seems I already have some germination! Plates have been kept at 69F to facilitate foreplay :naughty:






Oof I'm not sure that's the blue on the swab anymore...




Oof... thats no bueno bro... did you use both swabs already?


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    #27181510 - 02/01/21 08:11 PM (1 month, 21 hours ago)

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Quote:

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Seems I already have some germination! Plates have been kept at 69F to facilitate foreplay :naughty:






Oof I'm not sure that's the blue on the swab anymore...




you gotta medivac that thing outta there pronto, maybe pull it out and pull some clean strands with tweezers? I'd try to transplant the adjacent agar too


I got my swabs on agar 3-4 days ago, I had to medivac one myself. I think I'm starting to see (good) germination now though


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    #27181668 - 02/01/21 10:06 PM (1 month, 19 hours ago)

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Oof I'm not sure that's the blue on the swab anymore...




Oof... thats no bueno bro... did you use both swabs already?




Still got one, thinking of burying some strands of it in a plate this time. Poured some super thick agar in my 25mm tall petris that'd be perfect.

junk_f00d- I'm not opening that, its fucked lol. Probably gonna let it sit around until it gets real gross and then toss it


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    #27181713 - 02/01/21 10:28 PM (1 month, 19 hours ago)

I've been thinking about this a lot lately, and with how many people are expressing issues with swabs and germination, I wanna try swabbing dehydrated fruits to see if that might help eliminate some of the contamination issues... its just the start of an idea so  don't burn me at the stake here... lol


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    #27181714 - 02/01/21 10:29 PM (1 month, 19 hours ago)

Dammit! Who changed the name of the thread! Lmao...

Edit... *ahem* Doctor Mario....


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    #27181717 - 02/01/21 10:30 PM (1 month, 19 hours ago)

Wtf? I did? What did I change it to?


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Lol... it just says Re: ~


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    #27181729 - 02/01/21 10:37 PM (1 month, 19 hours ago)

Oops, I wondered where my first tilde went haha. Found it!


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    #27181730 - 02/01/21 10:37 PM (1 month, 19 hours ago)

I honestly don't have any idea how you would go about changing that... im not very tech savvy and I do all this from my phone... so im not gonna be much help here... lol.

Im just giving ya shit btw... don't mean any offense...


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: roarkell]
    #27181733 - 02/01/21 10:39 PM (1 month, 18 hours ago)

Fuck, I see what you're talking about and it had to have been me because the subject didn't change until one of my posts. Sorry about that. I'm not sure how I did that but it should be fixed now lol.


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    #27181736 - 02/01/21 10:41 PM (1 month, 18 hours ago)

Yeah... its back now... I didn't even notice til I sent the reply... lol


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    #27181744 - 02/01/21 10:43 PM (1 month, 18 hours ago)

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I've been thinking about this a lot lately, and with how many people are expressing issues with swabs and germination, I wanna try swabbing dehydrated fruits to see if that might help eliminate some of the contamination issues... its just the start of an idea so  don't burn me at the stake here... lol




I had some bacterial issues with my swabs, but it absolutely could be user error. My cleanest swabs have all come from fruits I grow in bags. Open/harvest/swab in front of the hood and then let 'em dry for an hour or so with the hood running. Might be overkill, but it works real well for me.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Genghis Chron]
    #27181751 - 02/01/21 10:45 PM (1 month, 18 hours ago)

Damn... I think that if someone quotes a post that had the blank subject its gonna keep going back to that unless the person replying changes the subject back to what it should be before the post is submitted. We're gonna have to be vigilant. 😅


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    #27181774 - 02/01/21 10:59 PM (1 month, 18 hours ago)

My roarkell APE jars are going to be spawned sometime this week to 17qt tubs. One jar looks a little off from the rest... will update with pics later in the week. Doing my biggest grain jar run to date starting tonight. I’ve never had 30 grain jars going at once... dippin them toes. Thanks LAGM2021 lol


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Tankie_J]
    #27182005 - 02/02/21 01:14 AM (1 month, 16 hours ago)

Plz let us know how the swabbing of dried fruits goes but I have to say that dehydrator air blowing all over the gills can’t be better than swabbing and waiting a week or more to dry out the bacteria if there’s any.  Do you guys rinse your swabs in sterile water before streaking?  Those two things seem to help me when I make spore solution from my swabs

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    #27182040 - 02/02/21 01:58 AM (1 month, 15 hours ago)

despite knowing I probably should, I'm always too lazy to get sterile water into a syringe but have had good luck since switching to super soft agar for swabs. I used to go through swabs and get nothing but now I get germination on like half my plates at least


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    #27182041 - 02/02/21 01:59 AM (1 month, 15 hours ago)

Wait a week or more? Are you talking SAB? My swabs seem to do just fine with some time in front of the hood. Then I'll just slip em back into the sleeve and close em up with micropore tape.


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    #27182077 - 02/02/21 02:54 AM (1 month, 14 hours ago)

Well I don’t use a SAB or hood, so I just throw them back into the sleeve right away and wait at least a week to use em... been working out.  That’s how I’m getting my crosses. Your way sounds legit :thumbup:

Have you tried germinating those PE swabs I sent ya?

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    #27182149 - 02/02/21 04:34 AM (1 month, 13 hours ago)

That's what I keep asking...hydrating the swab/spores.
But ya, I'm gonna try softer agar.
6g 1.3% Agar, 6g LME, 450ml no color 1/20

But I'm out of swabs, so that'll have to wait.
There's just one little hopefull piece left, all the other
plates have contamed out.

           
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    #27182166 - 02/02/21 04:45 AM (1 month, 12 hours ago)

That's what I keep asking...hydrating the swab/spores.
But ya, I'm gonna try softer agar.
6g 1.3% Agar, 6g LME, 450ml no color 1/20  :excellent:

But I'm out of swabs, so that'll have to wait.
There's just one little hopefull piece left, all the other
plates have contamed out.

           
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    #27182349 - 02/02/21 09:00 AM (1 month, 8 hours ago)

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Well I don’t use a SAB or hood, so I just throw them back into the sleeve right away and wait at least a week to use em... been working out.  That’s how I’m getting my crosses. Your way sounds legit :thumbup:

Have you tried germinating those PE swabs I sent ya?

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Do you guys rinse your swabs in sterile water before streaking?  Those two things seem to help me when I make spore solution from my swabs





I'll give thise a shot. I've had such bad luck streaking swabs in the past that I usually just go straight to the nuclear option and jam 'em directly into the agar :lol:


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    #27183184 - 02/02/21 06:15 PM (30 days, 23 hours ago)

Made up some sub this morning for 6qts of the APE that are ready. I’m following Fahts 16qt PE tubs for these.



RK APE 3 in the wide mouth is the one that was looking slightly off from the rest but now I’m not sure. I’m just going to spawn them all either tonight or tomorrow. 2 myco qts per tub staying with their numbered counterparts.

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    #27183484 - 02/02/21 09:33 PM (30 days, 20 hours ago)

First signs of germination today, 9 days after using swab.

The first two plates I rubbed/streaked with swab. Nothing yet.

Third plate I cut off a very small piece, finally turning white around the edges.
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    #27183769 - 02/03/21 12:17 AM (30 days, 17 hours ago)

What do you guys think of this? I feel like it’s growing way too fast to be myc


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: ragehottie]
    #27183808 - 02/03/21 01:23 AM (30 days, 16 hours ago)

That's definitely mold.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27183865 - 02/03/21 02:41 AM (30 days, 14 hours ago)

Swab sprouting. This is day 3 on agar. Looks great.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27184201 - 02/03/21 11:28 AM (30 days, 6 hours ago)

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That's definitely mold.




Thanks for confirming. Both spots are where I streaked, so I blame you roar :lol:
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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: ragehottie]
    #27184489 - 02/03/21 02:43 PM (30 days, 2 hours ago)

Alright dudes/dudettes I spawned 6 of the 8 jars this morning to some 17qt tubs following fahts tek.


The grain broke up in the jars easy and smelled fantastic. I only had 1 gallon bags on hand and they worked just fine.


Three tubs that all look like this. I wasn’t sure about the initial hole placement and had only drilled one tub as a control. It was perfect considering these will be cased at 100%. So I drilled out the rest and went on my way. Cheap 8gal trash bags used for liners, about 2-3 inches trimmed off all around.

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    #27184665 - 02/03/21 04:32 PM (30 days, 1 hour ago)

Looks good dude!


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    #27184702 - 02/03/21 05:00 PM (30 days, 38 minutes ago)

Nice!  :popcorn:

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    #27185309 - 02/03/21 11:41 PM (29 days, 17 hours ago)

2/3/2021
The 2nd swab germinated somethin. Still not sure if it's myc. Looks kinda funny. Took transfers anyway.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27186560 - 02/04/21 05:26 PM (29 days, 12 minutes ago)

Late to the game, but I am in!



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    #27187129 - 02/04/21 11:57 PM (28 days, 17 hours ago)

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Yep, I definitely transferred mold...



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    #27187136 - 02/05/21 12:04 AM (28 days, 17 hours ago)

Damn, good attempt! need a backup?


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    #27187150 - 02/05/21 12:15 AM (28 days, 17 hours ago)

Thank you. I've got 2 more swabs available if need be. I'm determined to get this working.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27188630 - 02/05/21 09:08 PM (27 days, 20 hours ago)

Moving to T1s tonight 



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    #27188699 - 02/05/21 09:49 PM (27 days, 19 hours ago)

Damn it you guys are making me jelly!


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27188754 - 02/05/21 10:29 PM (27 days, 19 hours ago)

Dang sorry about your luck Mario, swabs are tough. What's your agar recipe? I've been having really good luck lately using a water:agar ratio of 1L:15g, might even go softer soon like 12-13g.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: junk_f00d]
    #27188762 - 02/05/21 10:35 PM (27 days, 19 hours ago)

8g LME and 9g Agar per 500mL

The last swab threw some crazy fast mold. Like super super fast shit. I've got 2 more swabs that I'm gonna try but I might wait until next month. I'm pretty sure that I'm moving in about 38 days. All projects are gonna come to a halt.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27188784 - 02/05/21 10:57 PM (27 days, 18 hours ago)

Finally jumping in! Hopefully dont make an ass of myself! Lmao... either way, we're in this together!


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    #27189260 - 02/06/21 09:58 AM (27 days, 7 hours ago)

Didn't know this was happening. I'll have a crack too.

Just stabbed them into plates. One was a total fumble :facepalm3:


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: The Dalcassian]
    #27189306 - 02/06/21 10:33 AM (27 days, 7 hours ago)

I've had an APE syringe sitting around for awhile, i think i might whip up some plates today and join you guys. Havent done an ape grow before. Ill post pics as i get em.


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    #27189761 - 02/06/21 03:28 PM (27 days, 2 hours ago)

Still no germination for me yet  :grrr:
Using 17:20 agar/LME per 1000mL

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    #27189790 - 02/06/21 03:51 PM (27 days, 1 hour ago)

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8g LME and 9g Agar per 500mL

The last swab threw some crazy fast mold. Like super super fast shit. I've got 2 more swabs that I'm gonna try but I might wait until next month. I'm pretty sure that I'm moving in about 38 days. All projects are gonna come to a halt.




I tried the same ratio of agar last night for some other swabs, coincidentally, and found it was too rigid to press the swab in and have the agar squish around it like jello or vaseline would. instead my agar would crack and split (but my agar could be stronger per gram or something too). That's the consistency I'm going for now with my swabs, like soft jello, trying 12g to 1L today. Definitely worth a shot IMO, I've found I prefer softer agar across the board now basically. shreds up super nice when dropping into grain as well


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: junk_f00d]
    #27189847 - 02/06/21 04:33 PM (27 days, 1 hour ago)

hey,

Id like to jump in on this if possible?? has anyone got any swabs etc I could have or buy in the uk?


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    #27189965 - 02/06/21 05:51 PM (26 days, 23 hours ago)

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hey,

Id like to jump in on this if possible?? has anyone got any swabs etc I could have or buy in the uk?




Shoot me your addy and I'll get a set of swabs sent out asap!


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: roarkell]
    #27191308 - 02/07/21 11:46 AM (26 days, 5 hours ago)

2/7/2021

We have liftoff! The only growth I see is in the plate where I buried the swab.



For those that have buried swabs in the past, do you ever see a very light, almost transparent ring of myc on the surface as myc grows within the agar? It’s hard to see in the picture but the white is likely mycelium on the surface. If I hood the plate while shining a light on it, I can see what looks like a circle of myc on the surface spreading out from the swab. It’s just super faint and almost looks like a circle of dry agar rather than bright white myc.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Scrimshaw]
    #27191480 - 02/07/21 01:13 PM (26 days, 4 hours ago)

I see that on all plates. I like to transfer from those spots myself. The invisible myc.


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    #27195252 - 02/09/21 12:51 PM (24 days, 4 hours ago)

Roarkell, what’s the timeline from spawn to 100% colonization? I know APEs can be much slower... and at day 6 from spawn mine seem to be doing OK. I will grab a pic later and update. What’s throwing me off is I spawned another 2qts to a fourth tub. It’s 4 days behind but it’s almost caught up to the other tubs in just 2 days. It’s also from the jars that were lagging behind the whole time. I’m hoping the tubs aren’t stalling out.


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    #27195281 - 02/09/21 01:08 PM (24 days, 4 hours ago)

Not really sure... I wanna say 12-15 days after full colonization... ill check my notes when I get home.


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    #27195296 - 02/09/21 01:17 PM (24 days, 4 hours ago)

Right on, just to clarify, I’m asking the length between spawn and colonization. Not colonization to harvest. Thanks man!

Edit: trying not to double post

I’ve only had one other failed APE attempt. Is anyone casing these? I was planning on it, but since searching up and down on APE I’m seeing no one really cases them.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Tankie_J]
    #27195367 - 02/09/21 01:47 PM (24 days, 3 hours ago)

I'll do a healthy top layer at spawning but thats all... ive never tried a proper casing on them.


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Well I guess I’m going full experimental on these. I did not top layer and I pre mixed a bunch of casing that just needs hydration and pasteurizing. Since these are the only pe variety I have going I will case 2 tubs at least. Just when I feel like I got shit figured out, I go and try and grow these. Updated earlier post with pics


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    #27196301 - 02/09/21 10:27 PM (23 days, 19 hours ago)

Wow, those turned out excellent! I'm in the process of moving and everything is being put on hold. All my stuff is about to get packed up and I'll spend the next few months replacing drywall, painting and installing carpet. Its so depressing but I'm also upgrading from a closet grow to a dedicated room. So that's fuckim sweet.


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Wow, those turned out excellent! I'm in the process of moving and everything is being put on hold. All my stuff is about to get packed up and I'll spend the next few months replacing drywall, painting and installing carpet. Its so depressing but I'm also upgrading from a closet grow to a dedicated room. So that's fuckim sweet.



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    #27199342 - 02/11/21 02:57 PM (22 days, 2 hours ago)

Are you guys using a casing layer for these?

I'm in two minds about it. It doesn't seem like it will do any harm. I just figure what with it being crossed with PE.


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I dont case them. Ill put a healthy top layer on at spawning but thats all.


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I've tried both ways with no difference.


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    #27201476 - 02/12/21 02:08 PM (21 days, 3 hours ago)

So one plate is mold city and the other one has a tiny spec of germination on the swab but there's bacteria also colonising just to the right on the tip. Gonna have to try and scrape that bit of myc off onto a fresh plate


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    #27201680 - 02/12/21 03:28 PM (21 days, 2 hours ago)

I didn't realize swabs were such a pain in the ass to germ from... I made my most recent batch of agar on the softer side... hoping that'll help my next attempt... im feeling your pain, peeps!


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Ape is notorious, this is the first of 6 swabs to have germed for me so I'm keen to save that little spec of myc.


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    #27201734 - 02/12/21 03:49 PM (21 days, 1 hour ago)

Day 9 for three of the tubs. They look alright. Not much more growth since the other day, but it is APE after all. Took the mp tape off the 1/16” holes around the tubs. Glad I have other projects going on


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    #27201822 - 02/12/21 04:31 PM (21 days, 1 hour ago)

Got it - no need to case these bad boys. It's difficult to find much information on them. Thanks, guys.


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    #27203473 - 02/13/21 01:27 PM (20 days, 4 hours ago)

T1 has grown out quite uneven. Hoping there isn't any underlying contam. I know there is a water drop on the surface from lid condensation dripping down, that hasn't grown any (yet....)




Low photo quality from cheap no-pour containers.

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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: D_T.eonanacatl]
    #27203507 - 02/13/21 01:42 PM (20 days, 3 hours ago)

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T1 has grown out quite uneven. Hoping there isn't any underlying contam. I know there is a water drop on the surface from lid condensation dripping down, that hasn't grown any (yet....)




Low photo quality from cheap no-pour containers.

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Id be careful around those big missing areas... big triangular chunks missing like that yell contam to me... there was a convo about it going on over in the agar envy thread...


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    #27203569 - 02/13/21 02:21 PM (20 days, 3 hours ago)

Don't mess around with questionable culture specimens, these take a while as it is so anything sub par is a no-no.


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    #27203584 - 02/13/21 02:29 PM (20 days, 3 hours ago)

Hey smart, is that tub in your sig a clone or MS? Its a good looking flush.


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    #27203598 - 02/13/21 02:33 PM (20 days, 3 hours ago)

To be honest I cant remember. I'm pretty sure it was early on and like 3 or so transfers from spore plate. I know my planet was a clone at least, same one I still got going.


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    #27203612 - 02/13/21 02:37 PM (20 days, 3 hours ago)

Ya, I read your planet grow log a while back, fucking cool. One of the coolest novelty grows I've seen.
I've just got lift-off from one of roars swabs so here comes the long wait:paperbag:


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: The Dalcassian]
    #27203704 - 02/13/21 03:33 PM (20 days, 2 hours ago)

Just learned about this thread. Major hype thanks roar.

Currently I have:

One mono 10 days from spawn:


A bunch of plate pin clones, looking from decent to good so far on agar:


And a bunch of somewhat but not hopefully not overly bacterial spawn:



Couple questions:

Anything I need to do differently to APE in a mono vs regular cube varieties? I just upped the FAE a bit and will likely be misting more often, depending on how much I decide to up the FAE. But otherwise can I just let it rock and keep surface conditions good?

How common are plate pins for APE? I had a bunch on my germination plates that I cloned, they didn't look exactly like normal pins but were undoubtedly little white blobs lol.


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    #27204752 - 02/14/21 02:01 AM (19 days, 15 hours ago)

Lenz, that tub looks great. Far better than what I’ve got going on. I didn’t do a top layer at spawn but I’m not sure it would of helped me. Thinking I’m dealing with something bacterial. I’ll let the pros answer all your questions since everything I’ve been doing lately has put me into feeling like a total noob again haha! Def keep us updated on that mono win or lose


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    #27209304 - 02/16/21 02:14 PM (17 days, 3 hours ago)

Looking back on photos of the spawn, all but one jar looked bacterial. Thanks to p9hu7’s clean spawn checklist for the insight and keeping me humbled. Thought, well it smelled good! Now I know, classic mistake. I cut a few corners on my pc cycle, and I’m pretty sure that’s what got me. I will let the tubs sit for a while, as I don’t need them right away and see if something can fight it’s way through for clone material. Now I see why it was taking FOREVER for the jars to colonize.


Reposting the pic of spawn... I can now clearly see issues based on p9hu7’s checklist. Sparse uncolonized grain, wet spots etc. IMO the RK APE 3 reg mouth looked the best and should have been spawned separately. The 2’s were always days behind and should have been tossed. If mushrooms have taught me anything, whether in cult or the experience they give, it’s to LET GO haha!

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    #27215983 - 02/20/21 05:19 AM (13 days, 12 hours ago)

First transfers taken last night, recovery visible this morning.
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    #27217729 - 02/21/21 03:33 AM (12 days, 14 hours ago)

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I've had an APE syringe sitting around for awhile, i think i might whip up some plates today and join you guys. Havent done an ape grow before. Ill post pics as i get em.



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    #27221477 - 02/23/21 05:08 AM (10 days, 12 hours ago)

Received today. Much love Roarkell.

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    #27221626 - 02/23/21 08:12 AM (10 days, 9 hours ago)

Delivered today. Thanks, roarkell !!! you're a legend. I will get to work later today.

What's the consensus then? you guys seem to be scraping a piece off and burying some of the tip (just the tip mind and only for a minute). Probably going to try a bit of everything tbh.

The agar I have poured right now is 2% light malt with a bit of yeast, a pinch of gypsum and a whiff of rye flour.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: MeatManG418]
    #27222849 - 02/23/21 10:13 PM (9 days, 19 hours ago)

It took awhile and is nothing to brag about, but I just had the first pin yesterday. This was BRF to coir so that is why the color of the sub is sort of crazy.



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    #27222882 - 02/23/21 10:37 PM (9 days, 19 hours ago)

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It took awhile and is nothing to brag about, but I just had the first pin yesterday. This was BRF to coir so that is why the color of the sub is sort of crazy.






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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: roarkell]
    #27223122 - 02/24/21 01:20 AM (9 days, 16 hours ago)

After too many transfers to remember and working through alot of contam. We have lift off!!



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    #27223625 - 02/24/21 11:22 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

Thanks Roar... Will post with full fruit whenever they decide to do it. HA! Nice thread BTW.


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    #27231571 - 03/01/21 07:36 AM (4 days, 10 hours ago)

Here it is: Not bad for MS to BRF to coir. I swabbed the snot out of 3 of the biggest fruits so I can do agar transfers to oats in the future. I want to get to a point where they all fruit at once instead of over the course of a few days or weeks. Anyway, I just pulled around 280g from a mini tub. At this point in the game, I will take it.


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    #27231601 - 03/01/21 08:08 AM (4 days, 9 hours ago)

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After too many transfers to remember and working through alot of contam. We have lift off!!






I see those retro consoles! nice lineup.

My roar plates are heavy on the contam side at the moment although I opened a couple of prints in the SAB before swabbing the APE so that may be to blame. Just waiting for that spec of myc to get things moving.


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    #27231744 - 03/01/21 11:09 AM (4 days, 6 hours ago)

My swabs didn't make it, oh well. I really seem to be shit with swabs.

Anyone have tips? I rubs a couple plates fucking hard, the use tweezers to jam little tufts of cotton into the agar.

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    #27231821 - 03/01/21 12:05 PM (4 days, 5 hours ago)

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    #27231850 - 03/01/21 12:25 PM (4 days, 5 hours ago)

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Anyone have tips? I rubs a couple plates fucking hard, the use tweezers to jam little tufts of cotton into the agar.

Then I jam the whole thing in...




I have little experience with swabs, but I think you just described the best method. All I've done so far is just streak a Z pattern. So far, it's worked with MM, PE, and Ghost. There's weren't many colonies from any of these varieties though so I'll see what they even produce once fruited. No luck with this APE yet, so I'm gonna try pulling apart the cotton and burying it like you described. Trying to finish up some other projects first so I have the plates available.

Would love if others chimed in with other useful methods. I wouldn't mind trying a few to make sure I get growth


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: TheDoobsker]
    #27231853 - 03/01/21 12:28 PM (4 days, 5 hours ago)

I slice the tip of the swab into four pieces with the scalpel then bury the slices into the surface of the plate. Hasn't failed me yet.


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    #27233253 - 03/02/21 09:36 AM (3 days, 8 hours ago)

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I slice the tip of the swab into four pieces with the scalpel then bury the slices into the surface of the plate. Hasn't failed me yet.



Ok, I can't visualize how you do it. Can you describe a bit more.

I've been thinking since the swab is "one and done", I would have
a small amount of sterile water, stick the swab in and stir it up.
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    #27233336 - 03/02/21 10:55 AM (3 days, 6 hours ago)

Think of it like you want to use a knife to sharpen a pencil. The swab strands are wrapped all the way around so make vertical cuts before you try to shave the pieces off. The center of the swab is hard due to the stick being there so only try to cut the soft outer part. I get lots of contam when trying this. Small pointed scissors works better for me to cut the littlest pieces off the tip.

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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: D_T.eonanacatl]
    #27236247 - 03/04/21 03:05 AM (1 day, 14 hours ago)

My T1, showing some nice rhizo. I don't often get rhizo on my plates. Kinda novel for me.



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    #27236499 - 03/04/21 10:01 AM (1 day, 7 hours ago)

Nothing makes me happier than a plate that looks like that (well of course except the entire plate looking like that with no contam.That is the apex of "hell yeah"). It makes me happier than a good harvest because I know that I have a great chance at a nice harvest when I see those fingers! The more I get into this the more I like the process more than the harvest. I may try my hand at Oyster, Reishi, or Lion's Mane.


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: The Dalcassian]
    #27236917 - 03/04/21 02:12 PM (1 day, 3 hours ago)

Looks good! I have some little clusters of knots starting to show up. I almost tossed the tubs a while back. Kept them around till I absolutely need them or they throw some green. Spawned on the 12th of feb and no green so it’s most likely slightly bacterial. Only one tub has pushed out the smallest dot of metabolites. So they aren’t as bad as I had originally thought. The sub has shrunk quite a bit. If/when they flush I will have to bottom water.


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    #27236926 - 03/04/21 02:19 PM (1 day, 3 hours ago)

Isn't it 4/6 weeks to pin with these? It's a long stint, I imagine spawn has to be on point to go the duration.


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    #27236952 - 03/04/21 02:43 PM (1 day, 2 hours ago)

That’s the word on the street. Hence why they will be tossed if I need the tubs or I see green/overactive metabolites. But for now they’re doing way better than anticipated and are away from my main grow space. 3 weeks is tomorrow and I just noticed the smallest knots forming. Will probably see the first pin in a week.


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    #27236962 - 03/04/21 02:50 PM (1 day, 2 hours ago)

Cool, I'm excited for you. I definitely think the more you wait the more excited you get. Have you tried em before?


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Tankie_J]
    #27236966 - 03/04/21 02:52 PM (1 day, 2 hours ago)

I'll have to take a look at my notes but mine usually pin within 2 weeks... don't quote me on that just yet... gotta eat this burger and walk the dog but then its cult time!


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    #27236976 - 03/04/21 02:59 PM (1 day, 2 hours ago)

Thanks Dal, no I haven’t tried them. Got my ass handed to me with Melmak. Probably the closest to ape I’ve had.

Roar, you must have got a great culture right off the bat. Lucky!


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Re: Roars APE grow along/comparative 2021! [Re: Tankie_J]
    #27237097 - 03/04/21 04:18 PM (1 day, 1 hour ago)

I just finished a BRF to coir grow that took the following (from my notes): March 1, 2021 harvested the first flush of APE
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 94% water to fungus ratio
 63 days from inoculation to harvest
 42 days from inoculation to birth
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    #27237161 - 03/04/21 04:50 PM (1 day, 48 minutes ago)

4-6 weeks would be crazy long.


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So I’m seeing knots at just under 3 weeks. Not too many but hopefully one of the clusters develops and I can grab a clone to work with. We’ll see what happens. I will post pics if/when there are pins


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