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koods
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OutsideOfMyMind said: Wow this footage is intense: https://www.newyorker.com/news/video-dept/a-reporters-footage-from-inside-the-capitol-siege?utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR10IPhQ_NMvXu7sYe3XcLOUHNfnuQiTnASGYtJQKRORtrWa8HGjfnPGzTo
I knew a guy like the shamanon in college. Always making scene to attract attention to himself. Yelling grunting. He’s legit mentally ill. Also he’s super bald.
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Kryptos
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Nonagon Infinity said: Look, the most important point for me here is to discern whether or not you are a Holocaust denier. I think that Holocaust denial is a hateful ideology, and it is a great threat to humanity. I think that holocaust deniers ought to be exposed for what they are, because exposure is the only way to prevent the ideology from spreading. Hateful ideologies (like Holocaust denial) spread through covert means, through symbolism and codes. That's why exposure and education is so important.
So far, I'm with you.
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Nonagon Infinity said: Any attempt that you make to shift the focus of the conversation from "is Falcon a Holocaust denier?" to "but did we ever really find any signed plans for the final solution from Hitler?" is shifting the goalposts, and it's not a good look for you in this situation. It makes you look like a Holocaust denier.
Maybe to you, but as I told The Ecstatic, I'm not afraid of honesty.
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Nonagon Infinity said: All of that said, Falcon, I've believed that you were a Holocaust denier ever since that discussion you pulled the quote from, and I still believe that you are. Admittedly, tou're not the worst kind of Holocaust denier out there
So someone who wants only the truth is a holocaust denier?
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Nonagon Infinity said: ...but you are highly sympathetic to that point of view. You're not super blatant about it, you don't believe that it didn't happen or anything like that. However, it's quite clear that you wanted to cast a certain doubt over the degree to which Hitler was responsible (which was a very high degree indeed), and that itself is a form of Holocaust denial.
That's make believe. Hitler was totally responsible, whether they found signed plans or not.
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Nonagon Infinity said: If you want all of us to stop calling you a Holocaust denier (because I'm not the only one), you need to stop focusing so much on whether Hitler had any "signed plans" for the final solution. It really doesn't matter whether or not there were "signed plans" when it comes to Hitler's culpability. It's so obvious that Hitler played a huge role in the Holocaust, so the question of whether or not he had any "signed plans" shouldn't even be relevant.
I agree!
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Nonagon Infinity said: The fact that you insist on focusing on this specific little detail is what tips me off to the idea that you are probably sympathetic to Holocaust denial as a worldview.
I actually didn't want to focus on this at all. I brought up something completely unrelated by Paul Craig Roberts and Krytos dismissed him because he defended a holocaust denier. I looked it up on Wikipedia which stated he defended David Irving for saying ""No German plans, or orders from Hitler, or from Himmler or anyone else have ever been found for an organized holocaust by gas and cremation of Jews". That appeared to be a correct statement, and that's how the focus shifted away from the original argument.
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Nonagon Infinity said: If I could summarize your brand of Holocaust denial it would be as follows: Falcon has no problem with criticizing Hitler, but he's sick and tired of all the make believe about Hitler. It's not a good look, Falcon.
You're absolutely right. I'm anti-make believe. I apologize if you find that offensive.
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Nonagon Infinity said: I don't know if you know this about me (can't remember if I told you before), but I am Jewish. I'm not a religious man, but Judaism runs in my family, and I was raised that way. I even have ancestors that were killed in the Holocaust. It's a part of who I am, and the fact that I am an atheist hasn't spared me from some of the hatred I've experienced firsthand. I've had people call me a k*ke, I've had people draw swastikas on my personal belongings, I've had food thrown at me while people shouted slurs at me, I've had people make jokes about how I'm greedy and just hoard money, I've had people call me a "dirty jew," I've seen antisemitic propaganda floating around in online discussion forums, I've seen angry mobs of Americans chanting "gas the k*kes" and "Jews will not replace us". Even after seeing all of that, I still find Holocaust denial to be one of the most dangerous ideologies out there - not just for Jews like me, but for all of mankind.
I'm truly sorry to hear there are so many people like that out there. Really I am.
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Nonagon Infinity said: To deny the facts of the Holocaust is to deny the consequences of white supremacy, to deny history, and to deny that this sort of thing can happen again. Indeed, something as horrific as the Holocaust could happen again, and that's what scares me the most about the current political climate.
If you're really not a Holocaust denier, you should have no problem admitting that whether or not we ever discovered any "signed plans" or whatever from Hitler is completely irrelevant to Hitler's culpability. There is so much evidence of his culpability outside of that factor that it shouldn't even be a question whether or not Hitler was responsible for the Holocaust.
Yes, I'm willing to admit it's irrelevant, and I already have many times.
I'm starting to think Falcon is a Qcumber too. The whole "I'm just looking for the truth, bro" while casting doubt on reality is pretty common among Qcumbers.
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chopstick
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Kryptos] 3
#27157250 - 01/19/21 11:18 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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When in doubt, just label anyone who disagrees with you as being a Q follower. Great idea!
This is why it's impossible to debate with you people. You are a slave to your arrogance
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ShroomBoomBoomBoom
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: chopstick] 1
#27157260 - 01/19/21 11:22 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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chopstick said: When in doubt, just label anyone who disagrees with you as being a Q follower. Great idea!
This is why it's impossible to debate with you people. You are a slave to your arrogance
Aren't we still waiting to see your 'evidence' Chopstick? Yes, we are and you have not presented it yet. This is why it's impossible to debate with you people. You are a slave to misinformation.
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chopstick
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: But I'm talking about conclusions that anyone can infer. Trump said he believed the elections were rigged. Is it not possible for someone who heard Trump say that believe Trump without knowing anything about QAnon?
chopstick repeats many more QAnon talking points, not just the one about the election being stolen. The claims of election fraud was one example I gave, but there are others as well (like the JFK assassination being staged by the CIA, the unshakable defense of Ross Ulbricht, and more). It really is a lot like the hypothetical case I gave about running into a Christian on the streets.
If it were just the claims of election fraud, you would have a point, but that's clearly not the case with chopstick.
I'm pretty sure Q never mentioned anything about the CIA killing John F Kennedy or Ross Ulbricht. Now you're just making shit up in order to paint anyone who disagrees with you as being a crazy conspiracy theorist.
I wouldn't know for sure, but let's be real here, entire books have been written on the subject of the JFK assassination LONG before Q was ever a thing. Furthermore, Ross Ulbricht is a good man who didn't deserve life in prison. A few years maybe, but considering that the drug war is a failure anyway, he didn't deserve anything close to a life sentence. The murder-for-hire allegations were literally made up. This should be obvious to anyone who did even the slightest bit of research, but it's apparently not obvious to you.
But what should be obvious is apparently a Qanon conspiracy theory to you. In-fact, so is everything else that disagrees with your world view
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Enlil
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: chopstick]
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Still, theories about the CIA killing Kennedy belong in the conspiracy forum and not political discussions.
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ballsalsa
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Enlil] 1
#27157278 - 01/19/21 11:32 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Still, theories about the CIA killing Kennedy belong in the conspiracy forum and not political discussions.
and thats where posts of that sort are going to start ending up, shortly.
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chopstick
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: ballsalsa]
#27157317 - 01/19/21 11:49 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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This post is just to let the moderators know I will no longer discuss election fraud on this forum. I had two posts in a row deleted.
As for those of you asking me for proof, stop asking, because I can't reply to you.
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Enlil
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: chopstick]
#27157324 - 01/19/21 11:51 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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And I've also deleted posts of people asking for proof. That's the way it's going to be moving forward
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ShroomBoomBoomBoom
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Enlil]
#27157340 - 01/19/21 11:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Makes sense. We were going in circles to nowhere anyway
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Enlil]
#27157411 - 01/19/21 12:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Still, theories about the CIA killing Kennedy belong in the conspiracy forum and not political discussions.
That's not even a conspiracy at this point, the CIA essentially admitted they were part of it.
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Enlil
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Ran-D]
#27157441 - 01/19/21 12:45 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nope.
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koods
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#27161023 - 01/21/21 09:35 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods] 2
#27161027 - 01/21/21 09:38 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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He wanted to steal Beach Chair Chris Christie, but he couldn't pick him up by himself, and being a Rugged Individualist he couldn't ask for help because that would have been socialism.
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The Thing
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#27162690 - 01/22/21 12:12 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Would of been funnier if we could see that dudes rosey face..
Resize bernie smaller.
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Psilynut2
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: The Thing] 3
#27163035 - 01/22/21 07:54 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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It takes some really special motherfuckers to walk into a building chanting stop the steal and then turn around and walk out with stolen shit .
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Psilynut2]
#27167613 - 01/24/21 05:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psilynut2 said:
It takes some really special motherfuckers to walk into a building chanting stop the steal and then turn around and walk out with stolen shit .
Just like how peaceful BLM rioters killed 140 people last year as they protested against violence.
But let's not talk about that! *As the masses bury their heads in the sand*
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Lynnch
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#27167619 - 01/24/21 05:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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140 eh? Where'd you get that number?
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Lynnch] 2
#27167624 - 01/24/21 05:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lynnch said: 140 eh? Where'd you get that number?
Note to mods: Is goatse still banned from The Pub?
Asking for a friend.
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koods
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Lynnch]
#27167627 - 01/24/21 05:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol
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