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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: Enlil]
    #27159933 - 01/20/21 06:57 PM (1 month, 11 days ago)

And why would nuclear war be a good thing for the planet, Enlil?

I am genuinely curious. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the same guy who has also said that lying is okay when it benefits your agenda (and so is paid shilling) would be pro-nuclear war, but I am, nevertheless, curious.

How could it possibly be desirable?


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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: chopstick]
    #27159940 - 01/20/21 06:59 PM (1 month, 11 days ago)

wildlife is doing great around the chernobyl disaster area. think about that


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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: ballsalsa]
    #27159946 - 01/20/21 07:01 PM (1 month, 11 days ago)

It would solve all the human problems in the world.


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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: chopstick]
    #27159977 - 01/20/21 07:15 PM (1 month, 11 days ago)

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And why would nuclear war be a good thing for the planet, Enlil?



Who said anything about the planet?


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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: Enlil]
    #27159981 - 01/20/21 07:17 PM (1 month, 11 days ago)

You are avoiding the question. C'mon, man, I wanna know!


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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: chopstick]
    #27159985 - 01/20/21 07:19 PM (1 month, 11 days ago)

You talk just to hear yourself talk.


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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: chopstick]
    #27159992 - 01/20/21 07:20 PM (1 month, 11 days ago)

It likely saved lives. It certainly saved lives on the winning side.


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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: chopstick] * 1
    #27159994 - 01/20/21 07:21 PM (1 month, 11 days ago)

Nuclear war would cause a mass depopulation of the planet.  Something would survive, though.  Ultimately, life would continue and there's a chance that it wouldn't be as fucked up as it is now.  Humans aren't going to fix this mess voluntarily, after all.


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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: Enlil]
    #27160041 - 01/20/21 07:45 PM (1 month, 11 days ago)

Well, I suppose that's a reasonable take.


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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #27160675 - 01/21/21 06:18 AM (1 month, 10 days ago)

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Humans aren't going to fix this mess voluntarily, after all.




the majority of humanity has no role in making the mess though.

we need a paradigm shift where we start taking our role of stewards of the world seriously.


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We are not overpopulated, we just get to stop shitting where we eat.

If you look how many resources are wasted, we are running the world on maybe 1% efficiency.


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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: Asante]
    #27160783 - 01/21/21 09:09 AM (1 month, 10 days ago)

No role?  That's a bit naive, don't you think?  Certainly, there are people who have a larger role than others, but to claim that the majority has no role whatsoever is simply false.


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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #27160873 - 01/21/21 10:22 AM (1 month, 10 days ago)

The 8 wealthiest people have more wealth than the poorest half of the world population.

not everybody takes the car to get a coffee at Starbucks.


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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: Asante]
    #27160998 - 01/21/21 11:24 AM (1 month, 10 days ago)

Most americans/canadians do, but that's because zoning regulations in North America are fucked up and historically controlled by car and gas companies.


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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: Asante]
    #27161054 - 01/21/21 11:57 AM (1 month, 10 days ago)

Wealth isn't really directly related to resources when one considers that most wealth is numbers on a ledger


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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: Enlil]
    #27161057 - 01/21/21 12:00 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

So are most resources.


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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: Kryptos]
    #27161095 - 01/21/21 12:17 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

Nah.  Numbers on a ledger aren't resources.


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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: Enlil]
    #27161149 - 01/21/21 12:48 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

Wouldnt everyone's "minor role"(like contributing to global warming) be bigger in summation than the few at the top? Take for instance, food waste. The entire middle and lower class, wastes more food collectively, then the top 10% just by the sheer number.


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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #27161200 - 01/21/21 01:25 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

depends on how you define "waste," I suppose.  I mean there are plenty of people on the planet who don't eat enough, so there's no wasted food with them.

This isn't really about waste as much as it's about resource scarcity.


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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #27161203 - 01/21/21 01:28 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

All air pollution by consumers combined (like car exhaust) makes up a tiny fraction of the whole. It's still a good idea to turn off the lights when you leave and run the AC as little as you can stand, but these personal responsibility choices are largely unimportant and are used to shift the blame away from the largest polluters.


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Re: Trump Was Bad [Re: ballsalsa]
    #27161209 - 01/21/21 01:32 PM (1 month, 10 days ago)

I don’t believe that for a second. Transportation is the number one contributor to greenhouse gases, and the number one source of particle pollution.


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