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Re: Crystals [Re: DINKLB3RG] * 1
    #27366140 - 06/28/21 11:03 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Interesting that the crystals also look like mycelium growing...


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Re: Crystals [Re: Shiro]
    #27366177 - 06/28/21 11:34 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

They look like ice on the windshield to me. When I look at that picture it gives me a weird anxious feeling. Like some kind of warning  that says proceed at your own risk!

How do you dose the crystals?  Like, it seems  a 10th of a gram would catapult you into another dimension!

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Re: Crystals [Re: Enjoil]
    #27366231 - 06/28/21 12:48 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I’ve yet to experiment with dosing of the crystals, only researched the process of extracting salts and oils  from organic materials


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Re: Crystals [Re: Enjoil]
    #27408505 - 07/30/21 01:47 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

You would weigh it, 30mg was used in the clinical trials and was said to be the sweet spot.


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Re: Crystals [Re: Doc9151]
    #27408625 - 07/30/21 03:31 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Bro, the crystals are suspended in some alcohol or something. How you go about weighing that? Have you done  it?

And I was more asking like do you just eat crystals or do you put them in some lemon juice or what’s the best way to go about consuming them.

So you think about a little less than half a tenth?

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Re: Crystals [Re: MerryTerry]
    #27411825 - 08/02/21 12:20 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

had to use a different lab. oakland went dark on me, hes probably busy with cup. anyways

no clue on starting biomass % if had to guess. 0.4-0.6%

this was done with hot ETOH. Mostly sugars, but might be a little bit better for dosing. I know of a myco extraction company that has been doing psilo extraction, testing it and then adulterating it out to a standardized dose with tapioca powder


might be better to use the fungal sugar in a tek like this. As then the entire product is myco extracted

pretty sure this consitency extract can be reached with any species.

been helping a buddy with cordy extract and he almost has the same texture






Been looking at higher purity methods that are not A/B. FF comes to mind.


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Re: Crystals [Re: DINKLB3RG]
    #27412477 - 08/02/21 10:20 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Whoa interesting!  I wonder if the DMT is a lab error?  I've never heard of that showing up in mushrooms before.

If this analysis is correct and my math is correct, you'd take 1000 mg of your extract for a 30 mg dose.  Does that sound right?

How did you find a lab willing to test this?


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Re: Crystals [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #27412489 - 08/02/21 10:42 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Psilocin is very close to N,N-Dimethyltryptamine (it's the same compound just with a hydroxy substituent at position 4). So my guess is it just misread some of the psilocin. Not an error per say.


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Re: Crystals [Re: DINKLB3RG]
    #27412682 - 08/03/21 05:56 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
Whoa interesting!  I wonder if the DMT is a lab error?  I've never heard of that showing up in mushrooms before.

If this analysis is correct and my math is correct, you'd take 1000 mg of your extract for a 30 mg dose.  Does that sound right?

How did you find a lab willing to test this?






This is reaaallyyy astonishing!!!

you, my friend are amazing! Thank you for sharing your experiments with the community! All this is so, so interesting to watch breaking through more and more decoding the magic code :P

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Re: Crystals [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #27412779 - 08/03/21 08:34 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Alan, sent you lab details on IG.

sounds correct on dosing. gave a friend a capsule, weight of powder inside was somewhere around 300mg (size 0). the trip was hovering around level 2-3

they self reported the weight of the extract with the weight of the capsule included. thus the weight difference in the report.



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Re: Crystals [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #27412787 - 08/03/21 08:47 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I have not extracted Root bark or anything else containing Dmtri in my lab. so it wouldnt be a shulgin style contam.

wonder if it's a further degradation of one of the alks. or possibly the way they're testing lumps the minor alks to that category? I am unsure why, but it was tested for specifically.


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