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SHOP TALK * 5
    #27148491 - 01/14/21 07:33 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

-SHOP TALK-
Welcome to the Shop!


Id like this to be a place for mechanically minded people to share whatever is on their mind... wanna build yourself a moonshine still? Bet someone here can help... gotta machine some odd-ball part for your shitty old car? Bet there's a few mofos around here that can walk you through it... don't know which end of the hammer is sposed to do the bangin? Well... we'll talk ya thru it but we can only lead a horse to water... ya know?

So let's hear it! Questions, comments, gripes... its all fair game here!

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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 3
    #27148550 - 01/14/21 08:01 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #27148563 - 01/14/21 08:08 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

:threadmonitor:


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 1
    #27148565 - 01/14/21 08:08 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

Beautiful welds! I need to learn acrylic’s so I can make some agar punches.


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: mushboy] * 2
    #27148567 - 01/14/21 08:09 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

I mean no offense but I'll probably be talking a fair amount of shit about engineers... it nothing personal... its just 14 yrs experience... lol


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 1
    #27148578 - 01/14/21 08:16 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

Mother fuck... idk why those last images won't load... I can finesse steel all day long... computers kick my ass tho... lol


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 1
    #27148586 - 01/14/21 08:20 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

loading fine now


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: D3_Myc] * 1
    #27148600 - 01/14/21 08:31 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

DO NOT BLAST THIS NUT



images 3 and 4 are still not working correctly though


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: PreparationH] * 1
    #27148625 - 01/14/21 08:49 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

Yeah... idk why its being weird...


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 2
    #27148679 - 01/14/21 09:17 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

Great idea I'm always building shit.


JK I'll post some pics tomorrow.  Beautiful beads btw.


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: Grimsweeper] * 1
    #27148885 - 01/15/21 12:21 AM (3 years, 13 days ago)

But but but.....it works on paper!!!!  Those stacks got me droolin Roark!


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: Jarhead3521] * 1
    #27148973 - 01/15/21 02:29 AM (3 years, 13 days ago)

Fuck you guys and your metal. I'm gonna be working with wood over here


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: Wall.E] * 1
    #27148976 - 01/15/21 02:34 AM (3 years, 13 days ago)

Now that I got that out of the way, here's some proof of my stupid bullshit.

We're extending this lady's house into her garage.





Yesterday I had the shopvac start a small fire, shit was lit.



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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: Wall.E] * 1
    #27149010 - 01/15/21 03:03 AM (3 years, 13 days ago)

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Grimsweeper said:
Great idea I'm always building shit.


JK I'll post some pics tomorrow.  Beautiful beads btw.




I physically reached to this picture... lol...

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Jarhead3521 said:
But but but.....it works on paper!!!!  Those stacks got me droolin Roark!




I've literally heard this excuse so many times... *points at screen* it works on here!!

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Fuck you guys and your metal. I'm gonna be working with wood over here




I'm only kidding about you carpenters... I fucks with wood when I need to... im just a stainless steel kinda guy...


In other news, were finishing up inventory at work today... got the OK from the boss to bring in some square tube I gutta cut up for my buddys project this weekend... gonna save me a bunch of time!


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 2
    #27149025 - 01/15/21 03:30 AM (3 years, 13 days ago)

Nah, I don't have a foot to stand on. You guys would out build me any day. I'm just a dumb lug that moves heavy shit or moves a lot of shit from one place to another. I just happen to be learning the trades while doing it. Thats what they call apprenticing, right? :rofl:


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: Wall.E] * 1
    #27149049 - 01/15/21 03:49 AM (3 years, 13 days ago)

Lmao... pretty much! My dad is also a welder... been in the trades for over 40 years... he used to design and build houses on the side... ive got a lot of love for anyone who can put their mind and body to work and build something to be proud of... plus, ya gotta start somewhere!


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 1
    #27149084 - 01/15/21 04:25 AM (3 years, 13 days ago)

Fuck yeah! Everything cleared the inventory hawks! Back to melting metal!!
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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 2
    #27149613 - 01/15/21 11:41 AM (3 years, 13 days ago)

I'm an average welder so there's no legit porn to show but I love building shit. Here's a nifty little MIG and cart I picked up a few weeks ago for the house. My last one fell off a shelf and got FUBR'd.



And for you woodlovers..



Nifty little tiki bar my wife talked me into building.


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: Grimsweeper] * 1
    #27149631 - 01/15/21 11:51 AM (3 years, 13 days ago)

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I'm an average welder so there's no legit porn to show but I love building shit. Here's a nifty little MIG and cart I picked up a few weeks ago for the house. My last one fell off a shelf and got FUBR'd.



And for you woodlovers..



Nifty little tiki bar my wife talked me into building.




"Nifty little MIG" he says... lol... ive worked in full blown industry shops that wouldn't spring for a MIG of that caliber... im a devout Miller man myself but even I have to tip my hat to Lincoln for their MIG welders...

That tiki hut looks fucking awesome dude! I'm hoping I can build a new garage in the next year or 2... the back of it is gonna be a 4 seasons room (hopefully)... she wants a hot tub and a tiki bar out there too... although I'm more concerned with the work space than the play space... lol


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 1
    #27149639 - 01/15/21 11:58 AM (3 years, 13 days ago)

Its nice to have a bar in your yard. Especially when everyone was covid crazy and we couldn't go out.

Yeah I'm a Miller man myself its all we use at work. Pricey though.


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: Grimsweeper] * 1
    #27150009 - 01/15/21 03:58 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

Yeah... we have a pretty nice bar setup in the basement... she just wants a hot tub really... the bar was her way of bending me to her idea... lol


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 1
    #27150074 - 01/15/21 04:39 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

My Lincoln coffin is AT LEAST 30-35years old and it shows, but she welds like day one.  My dad had it sitting in his shop not using it so I took it and put it in mine.  Also got a cheap Chicago wire feed from Facebook for $80, thing was brand new the guy used it for one project and it was sitting around so he wanted it gone.  Wish it had longer range but I couldn’t beat the price.  Both of them come in handy around the farm, I get my money’s worth out of my equipment!


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: Jarhead3521] * 1
    #27150174 - 01/15/21 05:24 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

Thats where its at! I know I'm a little better off than a lot of people but when I buy good equipment I take care of it... yeah, its a little pricey up front, but they pay for themselves as long as they're maintained properly.


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 2
    #27150700 - 01/15/21 11:04 PM (3 years, 12 days ago)

As roarkell said above if anyone is into distilling id be interested in your guide. Ive made wine a bunch of times from my own grown grapes and mulberries but didn't keep notes. Some of it I might remember if anyone needs pointers.


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: Grimsweeper] * 2
    #27151761 - 01/16/21 04:14 PM (3 years, 12 days ago)


My buddy snapped a couple pics while I was building him a table... got it functional today, going back next weekend to weld in some corner supports and some angle iron for reinforcement... get to keep all the leftover sheet stainless from the top so im gonna make up some simple shelves to triple my spore printing abilities. Pretty pumped!


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 1
    #27151803 - 01/16/21 04:39 PM (3 years, 12 days ago)

:saulgoodman:


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: Grimsweeper] * 1
    #27151829 - 01/16/21 04:50 PM (3 years, 12 days ago)

Work smarter, not harder!

But for real tho... crawling around on 40* concrete at 530 this morning getting it framed up fuckin sucked... my knees and back are fuckin screaming! All good tho... 800ish in material, 1500 dollar check when I left!


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 1
    #27164393 - 01/22/21 08:06 PM (3 years, 5 days ago)



So I got my tractor sunk to the frame right now and got impatient.  Last year I rebuilt the rear end on my silveraydo and never got around to the front diff, so it’s a 2wd currently.  Backing it up in place slipped into a soft hole and proceeded to have the treads fill with clay.  Tried rocking it out and when I put it in drive with the rpm’s jammin, all I heard was mechanical failure.  85% positive I grenaded my transfer case.  Remembered one sitting on side of my buddys house, scooped it up and cracked it open to check its condition, he thought chain was slack.  Good news is everything looked top knotch in the donor T-case.  Tomorrow I’ll likely be taking a board to lay down on and pull my t-case, then bust it open on the bench and see how much damage we did!


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: Jarhead3521] * 1
    #27164714 - 01/23/21 12:15 AM (3 years, 5 days ago)

Not sure I'm following you. What kind of tractor?


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    #27164904 - 01/23/21 05:58 AM (3 years, 5 days ago)

So the transfer case is for my pick-em-up truck.  The tractor is a kubota, nothing broken on it, she’s just buried down in the mud.  I was impatient, tried to use my 2wd truck(at the moment) to pull it out and got that stuck.  Broke something in transfer case on that.


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: Jarhead3521] * 1
    #27164996 - 01/23/21 07:27 AM (3 years, 5 days ago)

Ah, I see. The tractor is what caught my eye as I'm looking to buy one in the next couple months. I had a Ford 8N as a project and a Kubota 2710 as my workhorse. Never done any trans work but a lot on hydraulic pumps which doesn't seem too far off.


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    #27165010 - 01/23/21 07:42 AM (3 years, 5 days ago)

Those kubota tractors are tough! I thought I was going too small with the 25hp but it hasn’t failed to do anything in the normal realm of a tractor with a bucket.  Rear remote hydraulics is a must, best thing I ever did was buy the rear remote kit and put a hydraulic toplink.  I’m lazy and got tired of stopping to adjust angle of whatever implements was on it, now I just push a lever!  The 4-5acres we cleared is just soft as soft can get without being a bog, holds water really well but when it’s dry, it’s concrete.


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: Jarhead3521] * 1
    #27165605 - 01/23/21 02:56 PM (3 years, 5 days ago)

Sounds like a good place to dig a lake


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    #27165838 - 01/23/21 05:12 PM (3 years, 5 days ago)


Finished this beast up today.... you could park a fucking semi on this thing! Hahaha...took a little longer than expected so my overall profit was probably only 650-700ish... all good tho! My buddy and his boss are both amazed!


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 1
    #27166033 - 01/23/21 07:13 PM (3 years, 4 days ago)

Roark that table is sweet!! So I got my cousin over with the 45hp tractor......didn’t budge my tractor!  Had to go get a big ass CAT backhoe, bout a 24k lbs machine.....almost got that bitch stuck but we got tractor out we got my truck out, and I’m pretty sure it’s the rear diff not my transfer case which reeeeaaaaallllly sucks because I just did those gears about 4-5 months back.


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: Jarhead3521] * 1
    #27166383 - 01/23/21 10:57 PM (3 years, 4 days ago)

nice welding Roarkell! that's a skills I wish I had.

so...... want to modify 2 mufflers, already off a vehicle for me? lol
(I'm sure we don't live that far from each other)

JK...sorta...

but for real! nice welds, I've been messing with the welder at work and it isn't going well...


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    #27166651 - 01/24/21 05:43 AM (3 years, 4 days ago)

Man I just did my exhaust and y pipe, they ugly but it don’t leak so I’m rollin with it!


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    #27166759 - 01/24/21 07:15 AM (3 years, 4 days ago)

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nice welding Roarkell! that's a skills I wish I had.

so...... want to modify 2 mufflers, already off a vehicle for me? lol
(I'm sure we don't live that far from each other)

JK...sorta...

but for real! nice welds, I've been messing with the welder at work and it isn't going well...




What kinda modifications do they need? Exhaust can be a pain in the ass sometimes...


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    #27166998 - 01/24/21 10:20 AM (3 years, 4 days ago)

looking to do this to both mufflers. 1 3/4 inch bypass. between the inlet and outlet. good reviews from people who have done it.

I don't even think it has to be stainless, because OEM isn't stainless, and I plan on coating them.



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    #27167048 - 01/24/21 11:03 AM (3 years, 4 days ago)

Haha... looks simple. Definitely isnt... does the angle from intake to outlet matter? And beyond that, getting those copes even close would take hours... its doable... but ain't gonna be a quick fix...


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 1
    #27167110 - 01/24/21 11:36 AM (3 years, 4 days ago)

There's some fancy cutting\grinding going on there for sure.

Nearly done with my wife's fireplace. The biggest PITA was extending the HVAC duct work that was on the existing wall. Bonus was it gave me a reason to buy a nail gun.


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    #27167274 - 01/24/21 01:25 PM (3 years, 4 days ago)

Haha! Nice! I built a wall in the basement when we moved in to create a hidden room... keeps (most) everything outta sight... lol


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: Grimsweeper] * 1
    #27167418 - 01/24/21 02:57 PM (3 years, 4 days ago)

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There's some fancy cutting\grinding going on there for sure.

Nearly done with my wife's fireplace. The biggest PITA was extending the HVAC duct work that was on the existing wall. Bonus was it gave me a reason to buy a nail gun.





That’s crazy, I’ve got plans on doing something like that with a wood burning stove!! Luckily all my ductwork is in the crawlspace so I just have to make my chimney stack come out the roof.  That’s on a long list of things to get done around here, it’s never ending!  Farm life is great they said!


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    #27167701 - 01/24/21 05:51 PM (3 years, 3 days ago)

Haha hidden rooms is a great idea. The TV sits flush since the mount is recessed but its on a full motion arm with a huge cavity back there. Enough for plenty of poundage with easy access.


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    #27167728 - 01/24/21 06:05 PM (3 years, 3 days ago)

My entire op is behind a false wall thats spring loaded... lol. Definitely my favorite part of the house... that, and I wired my dart board and light all together to a switch in the ceiling... I do a little Mario hop where he hits the coin box and the light and board come on and the board starts playing the intro music... I was pretty proud of that too... lol


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    #27167855 - 01/24/21 07:21 PM (3 years, 3 days ago)

Id love to do a project like that right up my alley.


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    #27167911 - 01/24/21 07:53 PM (3 years, 3 days ago)

Took me and my buddy built it all in 3 days... ive been planning it in my head since I was about 10 years old...


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    #27167924 - 01/24/21 08:00 PM (3 years, 3 days ago)

that's a pretty sweet wall! I dig it man!

secret rooms lol. there is a house in town that a friend grew up in, it had a secret door, that led to a secret ladder, that then led up to a crawl space in the second floor and then up into a glass dome on  the roof. Im guessing the dome  was originally accessed in other ways or was just a skylight and at some point they did work.


Yea that exhaust looks like a pain lol. the angle does not matter, but getting the holes sized up correctly and everything would suck. the other alternative is this.



or  something  close to it. that is where the factory charges $3000+ to put the "sports exhaust" valve and bypass in.  although this bypass only bypasses 2 of the 3 muffler chambers.


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    #27174223 - 01/28/21 08:47 AM (3 years, 8 hours ago)

:camping: This is great. I’ll just drop a few pics here. See why I’m called tankie...


Built a water tank near the house and got the kid out there to see what dad does.


Seismic upgrades to a water tower, before bump out


Bump out tacked in


Installed, overhead welded out


Digester lid. Stainless skirt to carbon roof


Some sketchy ladder overhead edit: had it labeled stainless to carbon, but it’s just carbon on that insert.


Some more sketchy ladder shit.


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    #27174443 - 01/28/21 11:44 AM (3 years, 5 hours ago)

Lmao! I feel like everyone should have at least 1 sketchy ladder experience in their lives! Thats awesome tho dude! Building the world around us! Ungrateful normies will never understand... lol


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    #27174831 - 01/28/21 03:42 PM (3 years, 2 hours ago)

Cool stuff Tankie. Thats earning tour paycheck for sure. I wouldn't trade blue collar work for anything.

I've had times in my life where I was pissed that my Dad split so I didn't have anyone to smack me into going to college. Then I think fuck that I wouldn't want it any other way.


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    #27174894 - 01/28/21 04:20 PM (3 years, 1 hour ago)

It’s a wild ride man, I feel ya on the dad splitting stuff. Right there with ya.

And Roar, I can’t even compare to your TIG skills. I was getting close and then I started building tanks. Lots of 6010, flux core, and jet rod (3/16” 7024)


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    #27174904 - 01/28/21 04:24 PM (3 years, 1 hour ago)

Haha... grass is always greener, homie! I miss burning rod... I feel like I'm not a real welder unless I get a few rounds in on all the different processes... lol.


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    #27175009 - 01/28/21 05:48 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Y’all wanna talk about gettin dirty, you ever cleaned a cooling tower? Hahah I take my spare waders with me so I don’t get soaked with the pressure washer....fell in the sump today, edge came a little quicker but I came out of it quick like a bearded mermaid!  Sketchy ladder times are always good stories though for sure! Those water towers you working on are some big heights!


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Y’all wanna talk about gettin dirty, you ever cleaned a cooling tower? Hahah I take my spare waders with me so I don’t get soaked with the pressure washer....fell in the sump today, edge came a little quicker but I came out of it quick like a bearded mermaid!  Sketchy ladder times are always good stories though for sure! Those water towers you working on are some big heights!




Bearded Mermaid!! If I ever buy a boat, this will be its name! Lmao... not sure what type of cooling tower you're referring too but ive done plenty of pressure washer work where I wished I had some waders... lol


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Industrial processes use big ass cooling towers, swamp cooler(for you desert yetis)but way fucking bigger! All the mildews and concretia dust and all the shit that the fans pull into it with the air....basically cools the process water or condenser water for the water cooled chillers.


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Industrial processes use big ass cooling towers, swamp cooler(for you desert yetis)but way fucking bigger! All the mildews and concretia dust and all the shit that the fans pull into it with the air....basically cools the process water or condenser water for the water cooled chillers.




Ahh... cuz I've done all sorts of process piping and things of that nature... anything liquid filled is always fun to repair!


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    #27175061 - 01/28/21 06:17 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Man there’s no putting bread in the size pipes you weld to dry it up!


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    #27175064 - 01/28/21 06:19 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I dunno if anybody saw this in the car talk thread, but you think you could weld this carrier back together for me?  Turns out it wasn’t the transfer case, but my rear diff!



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I dunno if anybody saw this in the car talk thread, but you think you could weld this carrier back together for me?  Turns out it wasn’t the transfer case, but my rear diff!



New R&P and locker should be delivered tomorrow!




Hahahaha... bread in the pipe! My boss tried to get me to do that... I told him if he couldn't afford the equipment it takes to purge pipe, he couldn't afford a welder to do it either! Lmao


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    #27175093 - 01/28/21 06:37 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

:snoopyes: 

I’ve only had to use it on fan coil units, lil 1/2” and 3/4” piping.  But it does do the trick, at least soldering and brazing.......brazing with oil in the line is my favorite!


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Y’all wanna talk about gettin dirty, you ever cleaned a cooling tower? Hahah I take my spare waders with me so I don’t get soaked with the pressure washer....fell in the sump today, edge came a little quicker but I came out of it quick like a bearded mermaid!  Sketchy ladder times are always good stories though for sure! Those water towers you working on are some big heights!




Never cleaned a cooling tower, but man I welded in some nasty stuff... going into paper mills and repairing black liquor tanks... that shits nasty. Hell, any paper mill work sucks. Good money though. Tallest structure would be a flare stack in a refinery at 199ft. Me and two other dudes set the tip. In the wind. And all this experience at heights, it still scares the shit outta me! Lmao. Probably keeps me alive.

Funny thing is I’m pretty shitty when it comes to auto stuff. Just not my jam or jelly.


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    #27175331 - 01/28/21 10:01 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I've tried to solder plumbing lines that had water in them its nearly impossible (at least for me). I'd imagine welding would be just as difficult.


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    #27175536 - 01/29/21 03:52 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

That’s where the bread comes into play grim!  Soaks up what’s there so you can get solder to stick and then bread just dissolves.  Tank I loath working at the papermill!  My van and everything in it smells for 2 weeks afterwards!


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    #27175537 - 01/29/21 03:54 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Depends on what it is... ive worked on stuff where we spent days draining so we can weld... other jobs you wanna keep the liquids moving to pull your heat out as you go and prevent warping... soldering is always a pita in my book... same with cars... if its just metal, I can flux with it... lol


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    #27175735 - 01/29/21 07:48 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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    #27175785 - 01/29/21 08:38 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

@Tankie - never had the pleasure of working in paper mills... but ive done plenty of installs at cheese plants... that shit is nasty!

Hahaha... the machinists are so far behind that they're offering us welders double time for sat and sun to get caught back up... ill take your easy money!


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    #27175900 - 01/29/21 09:42 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Cutting gas mains with a grinder will make your butt pucker the first time... tell you hwhat


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Yessir! Haha! I used to do high pressure natural gas... not many people can say they've maintained a 95+ pass percentage on x-ray for as long as I have! So far at this new job I'm batting 1000!!


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:rockon: killin it!


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When you get the roller set just right... lol


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    #27231319 - 02/28/21 10:48 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)



I have a really nice 1987 cub cadet 1872 super garden mower.
Well the past few months it had been idling poorly and it won't restart with the engine is warmed up. I put the compression gauge on it and it was so low I can't believe it ran as well as it did

I should mention here its an opposing twin (boxer engine)
Both of the head gaskets had slight leaks but more importantly neither of the exhaust valves were closing all the way. Unfortunately this machine doesn't have rocker arms and tappet adjustments for the valves

If you need the valve looser against the lifter you have to grind the valve stem. This was issue for me and the valve wasn't closing all the way because the push rod never allowed it and this is where I was loosing compression

Runs like a champ now. Starts back hot no Problem. I'm really stoked to have this straightened out finally




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    #27231454 - 03/01/21 03:07 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Awesome dude! I'm dreading my lawnmower maintenance coming up here... got the mower with the house last year... it runs well enough but all the other moving parts are barely hanging on...


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    #27231642 - 03/01/21 06:58 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

That's the problem with all these new mowers that you can purchase at the big stores like Lowes and home depot. No matter what the brand on the hood they're about all built by the same couple companies. Mostly mtd. For the most part the engines are decent but the rest of the machine is absolute junk. When you buy one of those Lowes or home depot mowers you have about a 5 year disposable mower. Just look at the front end and steering components. What a joke


You can still purchase a "real" john deere mower but you have to go to an actual dealership and pay 6 to 8k depending on the model.

Your best bet is to find a a nice used "real" john deere or cub cadet used. I paid 1500 for this cub and it's a tank. I also just bought a 89 model john deere 332 diesel for 1900 bucks that I'm sure will outlast me.

A john deere 318 (made from 87 to 92) is also a good used one to look for. There's usually several around for sale for around 2k. Great mowers


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    #27231760 - 03/01/21 09:20 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I'm still on the fence about another mower... our snowblower (that also came with the house) is on its last leg also..
I'm tempted to pull the trigger on a small lawn implement like a Kubota or something with a bucket so I can plow also... we'll see how much I can talk her into letting me spend... lol


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    #27232353 - 03/01/21 04:52 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

If you’ve got the room and the grass, and gotta buy new, get a zero turn.  My pops loves his, but he practiced in the backyard for couple weeks before mowing grass where all the neighbors could see hahah!  I do remember cutting grass as a kid with that forest gump snapper!


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I'm still on the fence about another mower... our snowblower (that also came with the house) is on its last leg also..
I'm tempted to pull the trigger on a small lawn implement like a Kubota or something with a bucket so I can plow also... we'll see how much I can talk her into letting me spend... lol





I see nice older john deere and cub cadets come up for sale sometimes with snowblower attachments. You could get 2 birds stoned at once

My top choices would be to find a nice john deere 318 or 332. Great machines. They're identical except the engine. The 332 has a 3 cylinder diesel and the 318 has an opposing twin (boxer) gas engine. I actually have one of each :lol: I have a problem

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    #27233402 - 03/02/21 09:51 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah... thatd be pretty good too... I was also kinda hoping for the bucket attachment so I could jimmy up a set of forks for loading/unloading shit from my truck... or just moving pallets and whatnot...


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    #27233424 - 03/02/21 10:11 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Pallet forks for my tractor was best money spent hands down!  My wife was trying to justify not needing them until I got em anyway and then she’s seen/used em and is all for them now hahah


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    #27234198 - 03/02/21 07:15 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Today I learned engineers get a ring when they graduate school.. not sure what to make of this.


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    #27234219 - 03/02/21 07:27 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

When it doesn’t fit, the people that ordered it for them, told them it fit on paper!  I’m sure they had to buy it though.  When I graduated boot camp, you could order a ring that had the EGA on one side and I believe Iwo Jima statue and your platoon number on it.......wish I still had it, some hussy ended up with it along the way


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    #27234325 - 03/02/21 09:01 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Haha... my mom got my the whole class ring deal after HS but I didn't fall for that when I graduate basic... they had all sorts of package deals... get a t shirt ring and year book for 1300! Lmao


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    #27234621 - 03/03/21 04:21 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Hahah, yah the ring was a couple hunned but it was nice.  Only tshirt we was offered was taking your worn out skivvy shirts home!


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    #27238704 - 03/05/21 12:50 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I won't ever stop working how I do but goddamn is it nice to be appreciated! Got a 9% raise today! The company wide cap is supposed to be 3% but ive been kicking so much ass, my boss put in a special request and got me approved for over 2 bucks an hour! Also said if I stay the course im on, the next one will be the same!!


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    #27238898 - 03/05/21 03:03 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks dude! I've been busting ass just cuz I like to, and it ended up making me wanna do it more! LOL


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    #27239459 - 03/05/21 08:33 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Thats good shit!  That’s what makes people want to turn a profit for their employers, getting treated right!  I’m making my moves to hopefully in the next year leave company I’m with and start doing my own thing full time.  Tired of the bs I can’t control!  And it’ll be nice to work in the daytime and not come home to go work for myself.  I’ll be able to spend more time with the family and the funny farm here at the house......keep up the hustle and always make sure the ball is in your court!


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    #27239840 - 03/06/21 02:34 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Nice! I was considering doing my own thing full time when this job called... I can't complain if they're gonna keep treating me like this!


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    #27241221 - 03/06/21 11:23 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

What do you think about electricity generated with the steam escaping from a double barrel steam sterilizer?

I think it would be cool to charge a deep cycle battery enough to work a few hours in front of the HEPA with the steam or heat from the sterilization cycle... Simple energy conversion right?

Roar if you ever want to get into making glass working tools let me know. They are spendy AF and looks like stuff you'd have no problem with. You ever work with high density graphite blocks?


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    #27241471 - 03/07/21 06:23 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Theres a few different thing ive thought about in terms of energy conservation and trying to kinda tie everything together... idk if you saw my dumbass post yesterday morning, but it was one of those trains of thought... to be fair, if I hadn't been doing 3 projects at once going 1000mph I probably would've realized how dumb my question was... lol... but thats definitely something I'd like to look into... we do a lot of different things in this hobby that all seem to be stand alone projects, but if I can find a way to re use or re purpose something, I do.


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    #27243723 - 03/08/21 05:45 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Mechanic and fabricator here. Done so much shit I cant even start. Have nothing I want to contribute but maybe later. Monitoring.


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    #27243840 - 03/08/21 06:46 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Well I’ve got a project coming up.....my buddy has a rolling frame for a 79 f150 single cab 4wd and a 79 f250 2wd crew cab.....he’s got the 400 with C6 on the f150 and no motor for the f250.  Said I could have whichever one I want.  I’m gonna be putting a flatbed with 5th wheel on it, so I’m thinking I’m gonna get the f150, let him keep the motor and put a Cummins 12valve in it....I’d rather have that 4wd than crew cab in case pulling livestock in the pasture.....it’s going to take a lot of time but the wife asked if we could get a old diesel and I’m not letting that permission slip get lost!!!


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    #27244321 - 03/09/21 03:40 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Welcome aboard, Smart!

And @Jarhead, you can't ever let those permission slips get away!!


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    #27251276 - 03/13/21 12:32 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

i work as a machinist, mainly servo lathes and vertical mills. Ill upload some pictured of machines, and maybe a few videos of them in motion.

here is a quick one of our newest servo B&S #2 screw machine.


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    #27251378 - 03/13/21 01:24 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Nice! There's a lot of cnc machines where I work but I don't fuck with em if I don't have to... lol


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    #27275886 - 03/30/21 02:22 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

On the fence about forking out for the Veto tech pack.
My Klein backpack isn't designed worth shit, with any tools in it the damn thing is too thic and the zippers blow out.

Just tell me to buy it..


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    #27275901 - 03/30/21 02:42 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Don’t do it, I sold the one smaller one I had and my Klein backpack is sitting in the bottom of my van somewhere.....gives you too much space to pack shit in.  I downsized to a small cheapo side satchel and it’s fantastic.  That Klein pack I have is in great shape, I just put too much in it that I never wanted to take it to the equipment with me, just grabbed meter and 11-in-1


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    #27302860 - 05/10/21 11:02 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I backyard welded flanges on my cousin’s catalytic converter this weekend.



It was tricky because we didn’t have the car all we had was a measurement and the flanges were canted. It fit perfectly though.



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    #27302885 - 05/10/21 11:20 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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i work as a machinist, mainly servo lathes and vertical mills. Ill upload some pictured of machines, and maybe a few videos of them in motion.

here is a quick one of our newest servo B&S #2 screw machine.




I didn’t even know Brown and sharpe made lathes. I ran mazaks my whole life. I use b and s dial calipers and mics


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    #27303125 - 05/10/21 02:40 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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I backyard welded flanges on my cousin’s catalytic converter this weekend.



It was tricky because we didn’t have the car all we had was a measurement and the flanges were canted. It fit perfectly though.






Gotta love it when you nail the job with no input!!


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    #27322378 - 05/25/21 09:38 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Working some big ol delren today with some duel vise action.


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    #27322387 - 05/25/21 09:48 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Working some big ol delren today with some duel vise action.





Nice! I got busted the last time I was over on the machine shop side... milling a government job on the clock... whoops... lol


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    #27322399 - 05/25/21 10:03 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I'll post some probe Vids on my puppet yt account later.


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    #27331476 - 06/01/21 01:56 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Doing some thread milling today. Long too, 2.5 in deep.


This is what the prepped material looks like. I really hate dove tail work holdings, not rigid at all and makes machining slow and complicated trying to not machine away all my support from the material to get to finished part.


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    #27342107 - 06/09/21 07:16 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Did a bunch of 4th axis programing and machining today. Had to build a fixture that the part slips over. Anyone in here don't any 4rth or 5th axis CNC work?


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    #27342239 - 06/09/21 09:43 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I never programmed it but I offset tools and changed cutters in an agie charmilles 5-axis mill with a 100 tool revolving tool holder thingie ma bobber
I’ve ran manual surface grinders, jig grinders, lathes, mills, water jet. With and without a DRO. Knew my G and M codes, speeds and feeds. Never got my journeyman papers but loved machining while it lasted. My heroin addicted ass fucked up some good opportunities over the years.


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    #27342571 - 06/10/21 06:50 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Lol it's funny you say that, every machinist, not operator; has the most self destructive habits outside of work. No one uses at work but once 5:30 rolls around people rushing to their rigs grabbing lokes and tokes.

My boss asked my thoughts on it and all I had to say was someone's personal time is their time:shrug:
A blood analysis seams reasonable but UAs go way too far. I definitely get pretty fucking lit once I'm not clocked and coming from a shop floor manager/lead CNC programmer that says something. Everyone I know at other shops is the same way. Machinists work pretty fucking hard and go way harder when it comes to shutting brain off work mode. Swear my work is an amphetamine just in its self and I have to take a downer or something just live outside of work.
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    #27342739 - 06/10/21 09:08 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I nodded out standing at my mill one time and it scared the fuck out of me. I asked to go home, said I wasn’t feeling good. They had to wake me up on the shitter one time too. No bueno


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    #27342814 - 06/10/21 09:45 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah... nodding out at your machine is fucking scary... its not soo bad welding but when your doing ring welds that take 10-16 minutes each, if you nod off and stray from the weld joint, you're gonna have a fuckload of grinding to do... that only happens once... lol


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    #27342977 - 06/10/21 11:47 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

The only thing I do at work is amphetamine. Can't drink caffiene, gives me migraines so when I have to stay late fist fucking a job until 1am I like to take about 10mg an hour, keep me away and focused. Shitty part is going to bed, gotta take something to go to bed.

Cant imagine nodding at a mill though. Would be a bit freaky. Nodding on a manual lathe would be scary as fuck.


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    #27343042 - 06/10/21 12:29 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I loved using adderall when we went in on saturdays especially because I got time and a half and could cut g jobs all geeked up haha. The bosses never work weekends


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    #27343811 - 06/11/21 12:36 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Saw a video of a dude getting sucked into a turn mill that did the rounds on the phone not long ago.

Spun his insides out like a bag of water. Pretty intense stuff. I definitely would not wanna be nodding around anything like that.


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    #27368935 - 06/30/21 12:53 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)



Fuckin machinists... lol... job security!


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    #27369049 - 06/30/21 01:54 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I take it someone had some bad tool offsets in a lathe.


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    #27369072 - 06/30/21 02:11 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I never understood how you could fuck in the offsets on a lathe when you just touch the eye and it zeros the axis


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    #27369192 - 06/30/21 03:54 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Eh it's actually supper easy. I always fat finger or sometimes don't punch a zero and we all know a -.005 offset going into a cut sounds way way different from the -.05 offset.


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    #27369483 - 06/30/21 07:12 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

He said he was doing the final cut and the tool broke and wedged sideways... gouged out about 50 thou... instead of having me fix it quick, they decided to machine off 3+ inches...and I have the honor or grinding all that clean and putting a new flange on...


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    #27369512 - 06/30/21 07:40 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

What the fuck is going on there? Looks laminated or like it was some kind of press fit sleeve that was being turned down to final diameter?

Edit: oh I see the finished one below. So the lathe caught and ripped off that whole flange ring? I can see now it's a welded on sleeve afair.

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    #27369669 - 06/30/21 09:04 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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What the fuck is going on there? Looks laminated or like it was some kind of press fit sleeve that was being turned down to final diameter?

Edit: oh I see the finished one below. So the lathe caught and ripped off that whole flange ring? I can see now it's a welded on sleeve afair.

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Lol... yeah, welded on sleeve... simple enough but its all shit material thats a quarter inch outta round...


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    #27369742 - 06/30/21 10:17 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I feel bad for the machine. Thing had to withstand radially tearing stainless steel like that lol. Would have made a good fail video.


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    #27369761 - 06/30/21 10:44 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

God I swear the crack heads that run those forges/mills make me crazy. I get steal expands and contracts when going from molten form to solid but fuck I took 2 materials and engineering classes in college and know even that level of billet material isn't hard to get within an 1/8, with the pros it's even less.

Can't tell you how pissed I am on a shop floor when I'm getting material that's damn near a 1/4 over sized our 1/8 an inch undersized. Then the customer tells me no the material supplier was a good source. Bitch please please you saved $100 sourcing your own material bit lost $3000 in scrap parts/machine time with your buji ass metal supplier. Fuck...


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    #27369912 - 07/01/21 03:46 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

The sad thing is, it give the shop floor guys the Fuck-its... if the company doesn't give a fuck, why should they? Luckily im immune to the the Fuck-its... lol


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    #27369985 - 07/01/21 06:16 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Either way my ass gets fucked on both ends of it, like I'm both hoes at the end of a reqium for a dream. Have to choose when to say fuck it and not but when you have 13 other things to stress about at work wrong material supplied by customers is the last thing I want.

Can't tell you how hard it is though to gun drill under ground drilling stems and the material is 2" round stock but when measuring the TIR it's like 1.85 low and 2.25 high. Like really what crack heads making that garbage.
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    #27377562 - 07/07/21 12:15 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Holy fuck I'm about to loose my shit over the garbage fire of prints and revisions this engineer makes. Just starting a hot job and 1/2 way through roughing out the 1st part I get a call that there's a feature change. The sent the print over but yet to get the solid model. Both prints look identical accept for the title blocks.

The OG print said rev C,  didn't really care because this retard obviously doesn't know the alphabet then the new one says rev A. Both brings have 2 sets of holes with no call out. They are clearly tapped holes but nothing more than that. Going to have to call and get a sign off on what type of thread and depth even though it's 99% chance of being the same. Fuck how do these people get paid more than me and go to more schooling just to be this retarded.


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    #27377695 - 07/07/21 02:10 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Hahahahaha.... :rofl:

I feel your pain Rara...

The new line at work is a transplant from somewhere down in NC cuz the big boss had to talk big to those higher, talking about how he could save the line and turn production numbers around...

Fast forward to us trying to un-fuck this dog pile of bullshit... im tasked with putting stainless steel cladding on giant slabs of carbon steel... I get 7.45hrs to do all my work. Seems reasonable... the polishers only get 1 hour... they aren't happy... so the boss takes it to the production planner and has her un fuck that bit...

So now the polishers get 10 hours and I get 4...

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    #27377726 - 07/07/21 02:28 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I can't relate to bigger shops and "higher ups" wanting stuff by deadlines and billions of dollars involved in jobs. I'm glad I don't. My attitude with deadlines has now turned into "what else do you want me to do, give the shop a paid day off this week and tack a day on for your job?"

I swear hot jobs get done slower than normal ones because everyone is rushing to get it done and stepping on their own dicks the whole time.


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    #27377743 - 07/07/21 02:38 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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100% true... we do it too... except when we do it, its about 40k an hour for every hour were behind... lol

I do my best to make sure I'm not the one holding up the line, but if you want me to do 8hrs worth of work in 4hrs and you want it done perfectly???

Lmao get fucked.

Grab a seat and watch me weld... im not slacking or slowing down on anything. Tell me it should take 4 hrs...?? Show me motherfucker.... here's my torch and helmet... ill even set the machine for you!

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    #27377971 - 07/07/21 05:25 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Hahahahahaha, Yup. With CNC once it's set up, especially the way I program there's nothing the operator can do to speed things up. I can tell you to the second when that part is finished and if that's not quick enough than eat some ass and adderal and pull a night shift at that machine. I use to do that and nope, not worth it just for 1 saving 1 or 2 days of run time.

The overhead at our shop is $40 an HR lol but we charge $80-$100. We also don't have massive overhead because we have the most machines per square foot out of all manufacturing facilities in my state. By far not the biggest but for our size we got lost of spindles turning.


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    #27378014 - 07/07/21 05:41 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I really enjoy the banter in here. Makes me want to get back at it. I’ve been plating for about a year now and am learning the ins and outs of a mail order business I can hopefully take over some day.


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    #27378817 - 07/08/21 08:43 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Sending my glass torch in for a cleaning next week. I've been using it for over 20 years and a few of the ports are clogged with carbon. I'm really looking forward to having a nice working torch again.


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Sending my glass torch in for a cleaning next week. I've been using it for over 20 years and a few of the ports are clogged with carbon. I'm really looking forward to having a nice working torch again.




What does the torch tip look like? You can get super small files for cleaning tips for dirt cheap...



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    #27378948 - 07/08/21 10:21 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah if it's oxy-propane or oxy-acetylene that tool works great for cleaning.


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    #27379204 - 07/08/21 01:22 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Those are way too big. There are ports sleeved inside other ports. 2 oxygen and one propane per port. Some people push compressed air through them at 150+ PSI with good success as a cleaning method but mine needs the manifold taken apart and I'd rather have the guy who built it do that part.

This is the type of torch I have although mine was a prototype and only has a single manifold (double manifold is for a foot pedal to run the outer fire).

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    #27379325 - 07/08/21 03:00 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Ahh... I assumed you meant glass torch, I just didn't know how they were set up.


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    #27384438 - 07/12/21 12:38 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Got off the phone with the same special needs engineer.

Calls me up saying I made a through hole instead of a blind hole on the big gear box housing. It's 10"x6" tube steel with 1/2" wall thickness. 

Hole is called out as blind hole -.625 .

So punched holes through there all day. Two days later, ie today I get "get your print out" so over the phone I had to explain how a -.625 from the wall face with a .5 thick wall is never going to be blind, I'm jeasus mother fucker.

Then he goes well the hole is out of spec. He said its a .750 hole +.002 -.000. Okay cool easy. Then he's asking why the interface pins slide in and out. I said I don't know, what's the pin size. Oh its .7495.

Well a .7495 pin is going to be a hotdog down a hallway in a .751 hole 8 days of the week.

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    #27384528 - 07/12/21 02:05 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Beats me man. I would have him hang out with the jig-grinders for a month to learn ID tolerances


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    #27384569 - 07/12/21 02:41 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Oof... thats always a good time when simple math is the root problem... they're still playing fuck-fuck games with our packets... we have no work staged in front of the booth... and the boss asks me to work 10...

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    #27384733 - 07/12/21 05:14 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah the game of engineers trying to figure out what they want is a lame one. Especially with the amazingly powerful CAD softwares now a days there's no math needed and you can make assemblies that will intuitively communicate part ware/weak points. Can't say I can just jump in their shoes but I am a bit judgmental when it comes to the tools I know they are not using.


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    #27385685 - 07/13/21 10:10 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Can you guys help me turn a pilot free oven igniter into a scalpel/myco tool bench top sterilizer? I just put one in my oven and it just made me want to stick a scalpel in it lol. It's basically just a coil of heating element with housing.

The bench top electric sterilizers sold for mush cult are spendy af and oven ignitors are around $15 USD.


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    #27385726 - 07/13/21 10:48 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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Can you guys help me turn a pilot free oven igniter into a scalpel/myco tool bench top sterilizer? I just put one in my oven and it just made me want to stick a scalpel in it lol. It's basically just a coil of heating element with housing.

The bench top electric sterilizers sold for mush cult are spendy af and oven ignitors are around $15 USD.




What temps are you trying to reach?


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    #27385755 - 07/13/21 11:03 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Whatever temp does the trick. The element in the oven ignitor glows pretty bright. Brighter than the elements in my kiln.

Just trying to sterilize scalpel blades and stuff. I think that being electric, adding a foot pedal into the scenario would be very easy and then I'd have on demand red hot scalpel blades without the need for constant open flames or constant red hot coils that are bigger than I need.


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    #27385844 - 07/13/21 12:08 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Good idea. It should be 110v and just a couple amps. You could just hook it up to a light switch and see how it does what you want. Grounding it wouldn't be the worst idea as well.


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    #27387345 - 07/14/21 01:20 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)



Engineer says the holes line up... I guess I'm stoopid... :shrug:


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    #27387364 - 07/14/21 01:35 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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    #27387368 - 07/14/21 01:40 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Lol Yup they line up, hey no concentric call out then guess it works.


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    #27388769 - 07/15/21 01:07 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I've been doing lots of complex macro programing lately. Kinda thinking about becoming a mercenary programmer and doing contract jobs for machine shops just opening up and don't have good programmers yet. Talked to one the other day that was just a turorist visiting town and apparently it pays good and people just fly you around the country.

Lately I've been using macro programing alot with super complex probing cycles so that before the program runs, it confirms an op2+ part is loades/oriented correctly and than one the part is done it will measure it and if the critical tollorance is out it will run a separate program where an engraving tool engraves "OOT" on it in small letters than errors out displaying how much out the dimension is. Shits crazy, lots of brackets with if gates in them.


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    #27412760 - 08/03/21 08:16 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

God damn I have a job I'm just fucked on. I need to turn an Axel that is 1.5 inches in diameter and 72 inches long and it has to be with in .002 of flatness, so I have to turn it essentially all in one pass with all 72 inches sitting out of the Chuck.

Even at 100 rpm it's chattering. Like shaking the lathe and whole shop floor. This part is so unsupported I don't know how this part is getting made on a lathe. Literally can watch the material flex when the tool attempts to cut.  I at the point of just walking out today because of this job.


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    #27412871 - 08/03/21 10:05 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like it would be better suited to a grinding operation.


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    #27412976 - 08/03/21 12:15 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

That's exactly what I said. Duel arbor grinder so there is no deflection but sadly I just get a manual lathe to fist fuck this project on.


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    #27413205 - 08/03/21 04:10 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Jesus... gotta love those round peg square hole jobs...


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    #27413228 - 08/03/21 04:32 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

When you say 70 inch stickout are you saying it's not supported by tailstock either? I mean that's fucking undoable lol.


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    #27413290 - 08/03/21 05:19 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

No, tail stock and live center used lol that would be scary to see spin up with out one. Nah ended up saying fuck it and threw it straight back up on the material rack. If I could do it on  a CNC lathe using variable spindle speed, maybe it could be done but biggest TL series lathe is only 62" between centers so gunna need to talk with the engineer on how critical that .002 is.

Currently trying to make a lollipop mill put this spiral shape into a cable end for logging cable. Don't know why it has to be 304 stainless, 303 or 302 would crimp the same but machine was smoother.


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    #27419855 - 08/08/21 02:40 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

ooo, here's a thread I'd like to follow

Bearings in my bicycles pedals/wheels don't spin so good anymore. I'm thinkin I'll spray some kroil in there. Bad idea? Should probaby just get some new pedals/wheels, probably pretty cheap


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    #27419914 - 08/08/21 03:08 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Kroil and some ATF should clean them out pretty well.


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    #27423879 - 08/11/21 08:43 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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God damn I have a job I'm just fucked on. I need to turn an Axel that is 1.5 inches in diameter and 72 inches long and it has to be with in .002 of flatness, so I have to turn it essentially all in one pass with all 72 inches sitting out of the Chuck.

Even at 100 rpm it's chattering. Like shaking the lathe and whole shop floor. This part is so unsupported I don't know how this part is getting made on a lathe. Literally can watch the material flex when the tool attempts to cut.  I at the point of just walking out today because of this job.



Can you use a collet chuck spindle with a bar feeder to bring a few inches into the machine at a time so the cutter can work closer to the spindle?


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    #27424013 - 08/11/21 10:34 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

That may work to stay in the nominal shaft diameter with +/- of .005 but for the .002 of flatness over total length, it would be pretty much impossible. Plus had to do it in a manual lathe. Ended up just reordering ground stock for it, will fuck with it probably next week when the material arrives.



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    #27424155 - 08/11/21 01:02 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

.002 in 6 feet....😬😬 Is this for NASA?


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    #27424225 - 08/11/21 02:27 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

It's funny you say that, we do make shit for NASA but no this is for Lochte


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    #27424357 - 08/11/21 04:34 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I feel like 2 thousandths out at that diameter could be seen if a beam of sun was hitting the middle and warmed it 20 degrees lol. Or just holding it in the middle with your hand it'll deflect that much under its own weight.


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    #27424489 - 08/11/21 06:30 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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I feel like 2 thousandths out at that diameter could be seen if a beam of sun was hitting the middle and warmed it 20 degrees lol. Or just holding it in the middle with your hand it'll deflect that much under its own weight.



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    #27424888 - 08/12/21 04:38 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

We used to put slip fit parts in the snow over night so we could press them in in the mornings... lol. Thats was mostly cuz I didn't like hammering the hell outta every little plug...


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    #27429607 - 08/15/21 08:31 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

My dad would dip bearings and what not in liquid propane to shrink them. Back before safety was a thing


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    #27469127 - 09/15/21 09:20 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone else experiencing material delays right now?


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    #27469165 - 09/15/21 10:03 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

You mean delays?


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    #27469187 - 09/15/21 10:17 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

No, just material. Theres no delays in anything else, especially customers reaction times to hearing deadlines get pushed back.

Though again, nothing else but waiting for a truck driver who doesn't even work for us.


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    #27469270 - 09/15/21 11:42 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Were hitting snags with certain things... been waiting on some AL6XN parts, that company said the could get it to us by Nov... so the higher-ups said let's just get the material and make the parts ourselves... sounds great! AL6XN material should get here the last week of Oct...

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    #27469496 - 09/15/21 03:09 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah raw materials like brass and certain chemicals have incredibly long lead times. What used to be 4-6 weeks is now 8-10


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    #27469549 - 09/15/21 03:55 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

For us it's any steel. Aluminum and brass even plastic is 1 or 2 day delivery but stuff like 10XX and 41XX series is typically the most comon steels to get anywhere.

Literally it's taken 4 weeks just to get a 10' stick of .75 Dia 4140 (not even QT). A year ago there wasn't even a wait time, that stuff was in stock on the rack when you called.


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    #27471028 - 09/16/21 07:55 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah... seems like the economic repercussions of the pandemic are really starting to rear their ugly head....


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    #27471055 - 09/16/21 08:26 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Guess?

The fire arms industry is wack right now. We build gun parts by the thousands a week and it makes me think the ten's of thousands of guns that we (figuratively) flooded into the market and our shop is small as fuck.

Manufacturing is really weird right now man, it's some wack shit man.
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We keep taking more orders too... thats what frustrated me...


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    #27483886 - 09/27/21 01:03 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: Hobbit GDF] * 1
    #27484753 - 09/28/21 06:11 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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beautiful welds man. just pretty to look at. smooth.




Thanks dude! Been at it for about 14 years now...


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 1
    #27511565 - 10/20/21 04:43 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Be me


Gets to a mill job. Essentially something for the US defence that is a 304 stainless steel panel that buttons stick out of. Thinks okay bunch a bunch of holes and some gay and slow engraving with a ball end mill.

Programs part, runs 3, figures this project is done and I can let the VF6 run for 4 hours while programing something else.

An hour goes by and I hear a loud smash (like a part being thrown) and go out onto the floor to check it out. Of course its my machine. Plexy glass everywhere, the left door is bent out of the machine. Looking at my fixer plate I notice my 3/8-16 X 3 bolts that hold it to the aluminum plate are FUCKING SHEARED OFF. 

Fast forward 30 minutes of getting yelled at for being a piece of shit programmer I looked at the control and noticed someone bumped my feed rate up by 670%. So then looking at the 7/8 end mill I was hoping a big hole in the center out with was still intact in the spindle. So finally I start loosing my shit because someone touched my machine and didn't tell me or anything.

Longer story short, my boss saw the 1/16 ball end mill doing all this engraving at 15 inches per minute and thinks "that's way to fucking slow, it's just engraving steel" so he bumped it up to about 100 inches a minute. Then didn't tell me because he thought it was only engraving. So than I'm not getting my ass chewed out because I'm not engraving quick enough (broke 3 tools before, trust me you can't engrave 300 series stainless like aluminum or 1018) because he thought originally the job wasn't in 304.

So now I'm in his office getting bitched out for "not informing him of my observations of material call outs on prints" because he bid the job thinking it was just normal steel and now he's loosing his ass because the job quite literally will take 5x longer than he bid at even though I never bid/saw this job until a job traveler was slapped on my desk this morning. Then also got bitches out for "throwing a part out of the machine" and "not reasonable programing."


I'm so fucking over this shit. I swear I do my job better than anyone else could try and my boss is intimidated by it so he has to sabotage me. Legit told him to fuck off and he can find another programer.

Now I'm chilling hitting the bong and just watched my phone ring for the nth time from my boss and a couple other people at work. Boss is texting me weird shit about how he wants to say sorry to me and something about sucking dick? One of the guys I could actually call a buddy tells me I need to come back to the shop because my boss is freaking out in his office about getting fucked and is telling people at work right now that the company is going under and what not.

I'm pretty sure I have mental health issues but I'm actually wundering if my boss is on the spectrum, he's done lots of high functioning autist stuff in the past but this shit seams actual retard stuff.


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    #27511755 - 10/20/21 07:59 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

That last paragraph has me dying


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    #27512115 - 10/21/21 06:43 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

All of that is 100% pure gold, ShopTalk approved!

We're in the middle of trying to switch over how we do our heads... so instead of just machining the blanks and putting them on a shelf til they need to be welded, they machine them all out, put em on carts and push em into the weld booth... so I hammer out 32 of them yesterday... now they're pissed because they're supposed to be stock parts and now they went too far... so my boss goes back thru all the paperwork, lo and behold,, they have orders for every one of them... looks like I was right!

If you dont want that shit welded, don't put it in my weld booth!!

When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail, right? Well, when you're a welder, everything looks like it should get melted.


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 1
    #27512177 - 10/21/21 08:02 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Lol! I don't even listen when people start getting on job flow and what needs to be ready when. When it's done, it's done......

Still really ticked off about him fucking with my machine, I'm sure you would loose it if on a job, some one cranked up your amps and boom, puddle fucked, than its your fault because the boss thought you were welding thicker material?

Didn't go in yet today, have 8 missed phone calls. From what I understand since I'm the only person that actually locks and unlocks the buildings alarm, no one could remember the code in 5 minutes so the cops were called lol.

Also have about 6 texts about how they can't get pressure to build in the air system. Yeah I know I'm a retarded young buck but common, can even look for the 3 water traps blowing air like  everywhere?


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: RaRaRasputin] * 1
    #27512187 - 10/21/21 08:19 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Lol! I don't even listen when people start getting on job flow and what needs to be ready when. When it's done, it's done......

Still really ticked off about him fucking with my machine, I'm sure you would loose it if on a job, some one cranked up your amps and boom, puddle fucked, than its your fault because the boss thought you were welding thicker material?

Didn't go in yet today, have 8 missed phone calls. From what I understand since I'm the only person that actually locks and unlocks the buildings alarm, no one could remember the code in 5 minutes so the cops were called lol.

Also have about 6 texts about how they can't get pressure to build in the air system. Yeah I know I'm a retarded young buck but common, can even look for the 3 water traps blowing air like  everywhere?




1000%

Try touching my welder... gonna wake up looking at the ceiling...

And the air pressure thing :facepalm:


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 1
    #27513023 - 10/21/21 11:24 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Any you guys make distillates, and what vacuum pumps you recommend? I know wrong thread, can't find any practical answers since the stoners seam to avoid the chem forum.




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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: Nichrome] * 1
    #27513060 - 10/21/21 11:59 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: RaRaRasputin] * 1
    #27513219 - 10/22/21 05:37 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

@Rara - what kind of distillate are we talking? CO2 extracts would be the best for starting material but those are extremely expensive... ive looked at getting a Roto-Vap for doing fractional distillation but they were out of my price range at the time... 5-7k for a refurbished unit... 10+ for a new one.

When I win the lottery, I plan on buying 2. Also a nice pharmaceutical freeze dryer... ya know, for science.


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 1
    #27513343 - 10/22/21 08:30 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

You don't need a roto evaporator from what I've heard, a traditional short vigerix column and vacuum is enough for small hobby Operations.

I'm planning on doing both EtOH and Butane hash oil as my starters.

I build a vacuum pump out of a 115psi water pump and a vacuum aspirator but I'm getting the drift now that it's the equivalent of doing pitri transfers on the oven door with the elements on in the myco world. (it's cool to show physics students the venchuri affect but just isn't practical for lab use)


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    #27513447 - 10/22/21 10:35 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah... ive always just bought my vac pumps... I can be pretty resourceful when I need to be but im also lazy af... lol...

Personally, id rather have too much expensive equipment and overkill my needs than to try and get a bargain just to fuck up all your material...


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    #27513469 - 10/22/21 10:56 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

It pulls -10 inches of Hg with out ice water. I'm just struggling to make a system that is quieter and doesn't fill my water traps. Mother fucker fills a quart sized trap in 30min of use.

I wish we could visit each other one day. The stuff we could talk about being fabricators and making cool lab stuff for hours on end lol.


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    #27513840 - 10/22/21 03:49 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Well I had to try cleaning up this aspirator before throwing it away, the nozzle jet holes didn't line up and the surface finish on the cone profile receiving the water jet like it was the 10,000th part before the boring insert was changed.

So I left it together and kinda swept it straight than drilled the hole 20 thou bigger and it actually line up now, also skimmed that thought surface so that water can actually flow, not get back washed.

Just hooked it up to my thumb with a couple blocks of ice and just pulled 13 inches of Hg! Gunna see how thi


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Re: SHOP TALK [Re: roarkell] * 1
    #27563169 - 11/30/21 01:04 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Okay welders, how do you convince a shop owner to buy a ventilation system? We are adding a fabrication wing to our building and it's going to be open with the rest of the manufacturing wing. There's going to be 3-4 welders welding mainly stainless TIG and stainless stick welding. I'm threatening right now to leave because,

when I was deciding welding or machining, in my welding classes they explained how not good fume ventilation will lead to a list of health problems, than my first welding shop I worked at I had to weld the inside of these steal tanks with no ventilation or fumeless welding hood.  So I became a machinist.

Every welder I've talked to over the age of 50 can't hold their hand out to shake with out their hand wobbling.

PS I also live in a super undeveloped state, we have no employee protection.  Legit my state requires no work comp insurance for employers or any safe working condition requirements.


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    #27563286 - 11/30/21 02:41 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

What state?


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    #27563569 - 11/30/21 05:51 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

MT, I've looked into mass vac systems that are for a whole room. It's one of those systems that just anciently sucks air from the center of room. You guys think it will be enough to at least keep the fumes out of my side of the facility?


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    #27563744 - 11/30/21 07:51 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Well anything that creates a lower pressure in the welding area vs the rest will keep most things there.


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    #27565117 - 12/01/21 05:52 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I'll take your guy's word on it. I always imagined those portable vacuumed arm hood style vapor collection systems being the best (if used correctly) since it's sucking the fumes right at the source. What do other fab shops usually use? (or maybe rather the lack of, what needs to be used)


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    #27565196 - 12/01/21 06:46 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Fan in the window. :lol:


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    #27565348 - 12/01/21 09:00 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I melt a lot of glass and would not do so without a good fume hood/vent. Fuck that.


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    #27567700 - 12/03/21 01:47 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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I'll take your guy's word on it. I always imagined those portable vacuumed arm hood style vapor collection systems being the best (if used correctly) since it's sucking the fumes right at the source. What do other fab shops usually use? (or maybe rather the lack of, what needs to be used)




Tig isn't too bad but stick will definitely need ventilation... those sniffer units youre talking about would be your best option... probably also cheaper than Wall mounted unit...

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