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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: chopstick]
    #27147583 - 01/14/21 11:45 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That stuff was brought up here all the time when that story was more current.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: psi] * 2
    #27147598 - 01/14/21 11:54 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

He’s out on a $2 million bond. You’d think he would want to keep his his down and not do anything to violate the conditions of his release. But hey, that’s not his money.

The whole idea of a $2 million bond is absurd. Nobody should be permitted to pay $2 million to secure freedom. Clearly that amount was intended by the judge to ensure this kid did not walk around free before his trial, so why not just do that and keep him behind bars. There is no rational reason that someone who is on video killing two people needs to be on the streets. Under the bail system, the only people charged with murder who get to await their trial hanging out in a bar are the super rich and shitstain heroes of a cause with a gofundme account.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods]
    #27147608 - 01/14/21 12:00 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Oh, that picture of him drinking in a bar was taken while he was out on bail?


The drinking age of 21 is pretty stupid anyway IMO. In a lot of places you can drink at 18.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: psi]
    #27147615 - 01/14/21 12:04 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Almost certainly conditions of his release include no drugs or alcohol. That is pretty standard, even if you are 21 or older.

Doesn’t he have an ankle braclet and isn’t he required to be at home unless he’s a work or
In a hospital or his lawyers?

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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods]
    #27147621 - 01/14/21 12:07 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I expect it probably is a violation of his release conditions.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: psi]
    #27147623 - 01/14/21 12:08 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

It could be.  The "no drugs or alcohol" condition isn't routine in many jurisdictions though.  "obey all laws" is though, so he might get caught with that one, assuming he's actually breaking the law there.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Enlil]
    #27147627 - 01/14/21 12:11 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

If the drinking age is 21 nationwide then he's breaking the law by drinking though, right? Or is it just a ticketable offense that might not violate the conditions of his release?


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Enlil]
    #27147631 - 01/14/21 12:12 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Is Lin Wood still his lawyer?  If so, I'd be shitting my pants if I were Mr. Rittenhouse.  Imagine facing a murder trial and your defense attorney is calling to have the vice president executed by firing squad.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: psi]
    #27147634 - 01/14/21 12:14 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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If the drinking age is 21 nationwide then he's breaking the law by drinking though, right? Or is it just a ticketable offense that might not violate the conditions of his release?



Yeah, if it can be shown that he was drinking.  That photo doesn't show that.  Besides, this is the kind of shit a judge lets slide with a stern warning on the first violation.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Enlil]
    #27147648 - 01/14/21 12:20 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Seems to show him in possession of alcohol though at least. Although I guess you'd have to prove the bottle contains alcohol. Even aside from the whole thing of his release, some law enforcement agency or another might be interested to investigate whether or not he was served while underage at this bar.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: psi]
    #27147655 - 01/14/21 12:24 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Seems to.  Could also be another person's hand altogether.  I certainly wouldn't want to try to prove a case based solely on that photo.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Enlil]
    #27147656 - 01/14/21 12:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Good point, but they could also interview other people who were at the bar.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: psi]
    #27147660 - 01/14/21 12:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Absolutely.  I'm just saying the photo itself isn't really much.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Enlil]
    #27147669 - 01/14/21 12:32 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

There’s more pictures. He drank three beers. He’s with his mom,and apparently you are allowed to drink beer and wine if you are 18+ accompanied by a parent in Wisconsin.

He was with a crowd of militia and proud boys. And his mom. They stopped off at the bar on the way back from a court hearing.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods]
    #27147679 - 01/14/21 12:39 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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“God forbid somebody brought a gun to me and decided to shoot me. Like, I like, wanted to be protected, which I ended up having to protect myself,” Rittenhouse said.

“No, I don’t regret it. I feel I had to protect myself,” he told the Post. “I would have died that night if I didn’t.”




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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: psi]
    #27147685 - 01/14/21 12:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Good point, but they could also interview other people who were at the bar.



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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods]
    #27147691 - 01/14/21 12:45 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

There you go.  So it wasn't a condition of bail at that time.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods]
    #27147693 - 01/14/21 12:46 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah he really needs to STFU for his own good. But he's probably surrounded by yes-men and thinks he's got it in the bag.


I had thought that the 21+ thing was pretty consistent across the country without any exceptions, guess not.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: HamHead]
    #27147697 - 01/14/21 12:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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It's also important so the Trumpkins continue to expose themselves.  There is a deep rot at the core of this country and the first step to removing a cancerous growth is identifying it






Your rhetoric is dangerous.

You are essential calling 75 million Americans, cancerous growth that needs removed.




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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: psi] * 1
    #27147700 - 01/14/21 12:51 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Yeah he really needs to STFU for his own good. But he's probably surrounded by yes-men and thinks he's got it in the bag.


I had thought that the 21+ thing was pretty consistent across the country without any exceptions, guess not.




Not quite. States are free to make their own rules, but if states drop the legal drinking age below 21, they lose 10% of their federal highway funding. That's how the drinking age was raised from 18 to 21 to begin with.

In Wisconsin, you can drink as long as a parent is present, and I don't think you even have to be 18.


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