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Re: Stalled tub colonization [Re: Marxcelium]
    #27146147 - 01/13/21 03:43 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Marxcelium said:
I am curious why you've covered the top of the tub with foil when it seems like your light source is also coming from the top.  This won't cause the stalling, but do you want all your light bouncing back up to the ceiling away from your sub?




That's a Willy Myco thing. When he prepares a monotub, he uses bins with clear lids for fruiting, so he covers with foil during colonization to keep more of the light out. Could be crazy, IDK.


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Re: Stalled tub colonization [Re: 0ptiquest]
    #27146152 - 01/13/21 03:46 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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0ptiquest said:
Probably just need more FAE, but why the foil lid? Also 2 weeks is not stalled yet i think.

The tape outside the tubs is doing nothing, people use liners (trash bags) for some reasons but light is not one of them.

Personally i dont bother using liners and dont have any sidepin problem, you just have to clean the tub more for the next use.




The foil top was a Willy Myco thing. He uses clear lid monotubs for light during fruiting, but covers with foil during colonization to keep the light down.

I tried Bod's Easy As F*ck method, which uses non-modified bins and no light blocking on the sides and bottom. I had no luck with it (side pins galore). If nothing else, it makes me feel better. :grin:


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Re: Stalled tub colonization [Re: Marxcelium]
    #27146168 - 01/13/21 03:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Marxcelium said:
FAE won't become a factor until they start fruiting.  To colonize, all you need is a little gas exchange so the colony doesn't stall out. I understand that giving the tubs proper FAE ("fruiting conditions") from the beginning will make the sub pin faster, but I really don't think it's stalling because of a lack of gas exchange if he's only got the lid covered in foil with holes poked in it.

Also, the black tape won't do anything, but it isn't hurting anything either, so it isn't helping the OP's issue to keep bringing it up.  It's fine where it is.



Is "blacking out" the substrate just an old technique that is no longer valid? I have tried bins without the tape and noticed a significant uptick in side pins. As you point out, it won't hurt. :grin:


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Re: Stalled tub colonization [Re: Dr.Sparkle]
    #27146191 - 01/13/21 04:08 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Dr.Sparkle said:
OP is that a US or imperial gallon? If its us I would say that it probably did start off a little on the dry side. 4.5ltr per brick and verm might be a good bet. Double check your field capacity before spawning if its dry just add hot tap water, too wet get squeezing!



Yes, US gallon. I see so many different examples of what field capacity is, it get's confusing but I think I have what works for me now (made a few more tubs with much better success). I used to think if you squeezed as hard as you could and only got a couple drops you were good. It occurred to me that if field capacity is what the substrate can hold with out "leaking" than a very light squeeze would be more correct. So now I prepare it that way and am having success.


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Re: Stalled tub colonization [Re: Dr.Sparkle]
    #27146199 - 01/13/21 04:10 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Dr.Sparkle said:
I felt the same. Scared the shit out me, wouldn’t go back now. Swear the myc prefers it, haven’t done any side by sides just what I see. There is some coir I have seen I definitely would not do it with though! Although that shit I wouldn’t use either way now anyway.



I'm intrigued as to what coir you use (and would not use)...


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Re: Stalled tub colonization [Re: 0ptiquest]
    #27146207 - 01/13/21 04:13 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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0ptiquest said:
Does it have a top layer? The substrate doesn't need to be all white to be ready to fruit, I think it will pin soon just wait. More FAE wouldn't hurt.



Interesting... how do you tell if the sub is fully colonized if not all white on the top? Maybe I should start fruiting sooner than I thought...


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