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Re: d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide?..Organic LSD? [Re: dmthead420]
    #7016115 - 06/06/07 03:57 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

when you say 'organic chemistry', you mean chemistry in a laboratory with organic chemicals? Or like, root feeding organic chemicals into plants such as morning glory or hawaiian baby woodrose to see what it produces? ?????


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Re: d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide?..Organic LSD? [Re: imachavel]
    #7016400 - 06/06/07 05:03 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Organic chemistry... the chemistry of the elements primarily situated on the top right hand side of the periodic table of elements..

The "organic" elements, the ones that happened to be necessary to many functions of life.


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Re: d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide?..Organic LSD? [Re: Acyl]
    #7016889 - 06/06/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

hmmm i heard something about this about extracting with butane, then with ethanol, then adding peppermint oil to into turn it into LSH....im wondering if its possible without extraction, just skipping all other steps and just adding the peppermint oil...i dont realy have easy access to ethanol, and i wouldnt really know what exact type of butane to get...if anyone can help me here, i will also try this experiment out, i have way more than enough HBWR seeds to waste.


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Re: d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide?..Organic LSD? [Re: highdroponics]
    #7017078 - 06/06/07 08:39 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Lighter refill containers contain butane, its usually pretty pure but you should test out different brands to see which is cleanest.

To do this buy a bottle, spray it in a container and let it evaporate to see if any residue has been left behind.. obviously the brand that leaves the least amounts of residue is purest.

Ive never heard of this peppermint oil extraction.. care to elaborate? whats in peppermint oil? and are you referring to lysergic acid when you say LSH?


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Re: d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide?..Organic LSD? [Re: Acyl]
    #7017137 - 06/06/07 08:50 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

im referring to d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide, and yeah i might be able to get ahold of lighter fluid, but my thing is i dont really need the LSA purified, just made a bit better...anyway there was a post by some other guy about how adding peppermint oil turns LSA into LSH(d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide) here is the thread...http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/6936484/an/0/page/1


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Re: d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide?..Organic LSD? [Re: imachavel]
    #7019654 - 06/07/07 03:05 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

WELL... I read a lot more of this... interesting... so basically this lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide is really close to lsd? Does it have a very similar high? Very different? Is there a way with correct growth and root feeding that you could turn almost all acids in a plant into hydroxyethylamide? RESPOND!!


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Re: d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide?..Organic LSD? [Re: imachavel]
    #7045659 - 06/14/07 11:30 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

This thread is indeed very informative!  I've been intrigued enough to make an excursion using this method today--I am just curious as to which type of Sherry would be preferred?  Amontillado, oloroso, fino?  Thanks in advance :laugh:

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Re: d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide?..Organic LSD? [Re: hokusai]
    #7045944 - 06/14/07 12:37 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Tell us how it goes.


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Re: d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide?..Organic LSD? [Re: Acyl]
    #7046111 - 06/14/07 01:23 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

This is driving me crazy. I can't buy anything online right now and I have no idea if I'd find Rivea corymbosa at a nursery or a grocery store. I'm willing to clean them off first.

I hella want to try this.


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Re: d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide?..Organic LSD? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7048290 - 06/15/07 12:47 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Dude, this post is extremely similar to my post about natural lsd? So, if you have lysergic acid, and add diethylamine, it will turn into lsd correct? Although most vines contain lysergic acid amide, they have to form the lysergic acid before they form lysergic acid amide, so if you feed tryptophan to the roots, and then diethylamine, the plant might produce lsd? Although, what happens to the side effects of the chemical reaction? Is extra diethylamine left over? Is diethylamine poisonous? Is there a chemical reaction that will occur between diethylamine and other things or is it mostly inert before it interacts with lysergic acid? Also, IF there were other chemicals involved with diethylamine, such as.. crap I don't know, diethytryptophan or whatever, would they be, poisonous? psychedelic? uncomfortable? inert? Etc.? How come no one asks these questions.
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Re: d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide?..Organic LSD? [Re: imachavel]
    #7051060 - 06/15/07 08:39 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

was there something in this post that.........

talks about significant differences between these seeds containing the hydroxyethylamide(half the diethylamide version, correct?) and the normal woodrose or morning glory seeds? That was a main question I had. Peace


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Re: d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide?..Organic LSD? [Re: imachavel]
    #7051076 - 06/15/07 08:41 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Yes. Eating morning glories or simply extracting LSA from them, according to reports, causes a much different experience from this LSH-extracting procedure - which produces an experience much closer to LSD.

That's why I've been telling you about this thread so much... do read it over. It has what you want.


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Re: d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide?..Organic LSD? [Re: Acyl]
    #7117340 - 07/02/07 12:19 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

to acyl, that's brilliant, you seem to know a lot about chemistry. Tell me more about that, you seem to know that the molecular chemistry of lysergic acid works almost exactly the same outside of the plant as well as inside. Let me know
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Re: d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide?..Organic LSD? [Re: imachavel]
    #7213863 - 07/23/07 01:06 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

has anyone actually done the peppermint oil extract? AND my question remains still, whoevers done this, is the high closer to lsd or closer to the seeds?
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Re: d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide?..Organic LSD? [Re: imachavel] * 1
    #27109580 - 12/26/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

This is great thread with dmthead420, new research and results here:

https://mycotopia.net/topic/110273-new-research-morning-glory-contains-5-stimulating-lsd-like-drugs-soluble-only-in-winealcohol-only-sparingly-soluble-in-water/page-3

hxxps://mycotopia.net/topic/110273-new-research-morning-glory-contains-5-stimulating-lsd-like-drugs-soluble-only-in-winealcohol-only-sparingly-soluble-in-water/page-3



Post #59 on page 3 has pics of actual extraction, strong visuals and audial trip with zero sedation, the secret is high acetaldehyde sherry wine.

Edited by tregar (12/31/20 09:15 AM)

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Re: d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide?..Organic LSD? [Re: tregar]
    #27117056 - 12/30/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Very interesting

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Re: d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide?..Organic LSD? [Re: Shroomysamba]
    #27117785 - 12/31/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks Shroomysamba.

Several papers published in the 1960's (see post #40 in mycotopia link above) show claviceps paspali ergot produces not only large amounts of the stimulating LSH but also a handful of other stimulating LSD like alkaloids just like the Mexican morning glory: penniclavine, agroclavine, elymoclavine, chanoclavine. As shown in post #40 in above link, these alkaloids all work together using teamwork to hit most of the same receptors LSD hits, along with 5 new ones (5 more adrenal receptors) that LSD does not even target:

Thomas S. Ray, Psychedelics and the Human Receptorome (2010):
hxxp://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0009019
Breadth of Receptor Binding, 4.00=max (off the charts), 0.00=min, X.XX=receptor is hit but we don't have strength data.

LSD: 5ht1a = 3.73, LSH: = 0.00, penniclavine = X.XX, DMT: = 0.00, psilocin = 2.88, mescaline = 3.61, 5-meo-DMT: = 4.00 (make up >80% of brain 5-ht)
LSD: 5ht1b = 4.00, LSH: = 0.00, penniclavine = 0.00, DMT: = 0.00, psilocin = 2.19, mescaline = 0.00, 5-meo-DMT: = 2.41
LSD: 5ht1d = 3.70, LSH: = 0.00, penniclavine = 0.00, DMT: = 3.91, psilocin = 3.40, mescaline = 0.00, 5-meo-DMT: = 3.48
LSD: 5ht1e = 2.62, LSH: = 0.00, penniclavine = 0.00, DMT: = 3.28, psilocin = 3.03, mescaline = 3.16, 5-meo-DMT: = 1.72
LSD: 5ht2a = 3.54, LSH: = X.XX, penniclavine = X.XX, DMT: = 2.58, psilocin = 2.14, mescaline = 0.00, 5-meo-DMT: = 0.98
LSD: 5ht2b = 3.11, LSH: = X.XX, penniclavine = 0.00, DMT: = 3.91, psilocin = 4.00, mescaline = 3.97, 5-meo-DMT: = 0.69 (sensual & entactogenic)
LSD: 5ht2c = 3.11, LSH: = X.XX, penniclavine = 0.00, DMT: = 3.42, psilocin = 2.52, mescaline = 0.00, 5-meo-DMT: = 1.55
LSD: 5ht5a = 3.64, LSH: = X.XX, penniclavine = 0.00, DMT: = 3.16, psilocin = 2.83, mescaline = 0.00, 5-meo-DMT: = 1.84
LSD: -5ht6 = 3.75, LSH: = X.XX, penniclavine = X.XX, DMT: = 3.35, psilocin = 2.82, mescaline = 0.00, 5-meo-DMT: = 2.73
LSD: -5ht7 = 3.77, LSH: = 0.00, penniclavine = X.XX, DMT: = 4.00, psilocin = 2.82, mescaline = 0.00, 5-meo-DMT: = 3.69 (novelty, newness)
LSD: ---D1 = 2.34, LSH: = 0.00, penniclavine = X.XX, DMT: = 3.51, psilocin = 3.37, mescaline = 0.00, 5-meo-DMT: = 2.38
LSD: -A-2A = 2.93, LSH: = X.XX, penniclavine = X.XX, DMT: = 2.75, psilocin = 1.36, mescaline = 2.92, 5-meo-DMT: = 0.00 (aesthetic/beauty adrenal a2a)
LSD: -A-2B = 0.00, LSH: = X.XX, penniclavine = 0.00, DMT: = 3.53, psilocin = 1.57, mescaline = 0.00, 5-meo-DMT: = 0.86 (aesthetic/beauty adrenal a2b)
LSD: -A-2C = 0.00, LSH: = X.XX, penniclavine = X.XX, DMT: = 3.53, psilocin = 1.03, mescaline = 4.00, 5-meo-DMT: = 1.57 (aesthetic/beauty adrenal a2c)
LSD: -A-2D = 0.00, LSH: = 0.00, penniclavine = X.XX, DMT: = 0.00, psilocin = 0.00, mescaline = 0.00, 5-meo-DMT: = 0.00 (aesthetic/beauty adrenal a2d)
LSD: -A-1A = 0.00, LSH: = X.XX, penniclavine = 0.00, DMT: = 0.00, psilocin = 0.00, mescaline = 0.00, 5-meo-DMT: = 0.00 (aesthetic/beauty adrenal a1a)
LSD: -A-1B = 0.00, LSH: = X.XX, penniclavine = 0.00, DMT: = 0.00, psilocin = 0.00, mescaline = 0.00, 5-meo-DMT: = 0.00 (aesthetic/beauty adrenal a1b)
LSD: -A-1D = 0.00, LSH: = X.XX, penniclavine = 0.00, DMT: = 0.00, psilocin = 0.00, mescaline = 0.00, 5-meo-DMT: = 0.00 (aesthetic/beauty adrenal a1d)

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Re: d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide?..Organic LSD? [Re: tregar]
    #27118284 - 12/31/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I was excited to explore DMT and ayahuasca but this new research has me very interested in these alkaloids...

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Re: d-lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide?..Organic LSD? [Re: immortalsennin]
    #27146099 - 01/13/21 03:04 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4293675/
"Microbial transformation has been studied for centuries. This phenomenon allows for the modification of a compound through an environmentally friendly approach. Microorganisms are capable of producing a great variety of enzymes in a short period of time as a result of a high rate of cell multiplication. In this sense, a reasonable number of compounds of various biological interests can be obtained by microorganisms-driven transformations of natural products."

  With the right kind of yeast conversion of tryptamines from morning glory to lysergic acid derivatives should be possible or any other tryptamine can be converted to analouges?!? Just need to find info on one that will suit this purpose Here;s this also
    https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22970349
  The ability to gaba---ghb!!! through yeast. So why not lsa---lsd? maybe brewing then allowing it to become vinegar? for a second conversion? I saw in one post tregar you said this was not what you want. WHy?
 
Did they maybe get yeast from pomegranate?? pears? what would have been there source for yeast? I cant wait to do some experimenting with this!! I've always wanted to brew my own stuff!!


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