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Tub not pinning and white Puff balls
    #27145093 - 01/13/21 05:42 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Hi.

Any ideas why this isn’t pining. I am fanning 3 times a day. If not more. Watering if I don’t see little droplets on the surface.

Now I know I’m a newbie. But is it the temperature? I live in the uk and haven’t used any form of heating. It was tucked away for 15 days and I’ve brought it out four days ago to get ambient light.

Absolute newbie to this. Any guidance would be great.

Also dumb it down for me.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Tub not pinning and white Puff balls [Re: Davemc86]
    #27145096 - 01/13/21 05:45 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Help us help you - ie add some photos of what you are describing and you will most likely get some useful tips back from some people more experienced than myself.

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Re: Tub not pinning and white Puff balls [Re: Davemc86] * 1
    #27145102 - 01/13/21 05:48 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

You need to post pics, good clear pics with flash and without the lid.

Otherwise it's impossible to help you.

Here you can upload pics to the site:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/upload.php?action=upload

After uploading them, simply click on the link below the pic's thumbnail and it will copy it automatically so you can paste it in a post.

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Re: Tub not pinning and white Puff balls [Re: Josex]
    #27145104 - 01/13/21 05:51 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Tub not pinning and white Puff balls [Re: coversall]
    #27145108 - 01/13/21 05:54 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Tub not pinning and white Puff balls [Re: Davemc86]
    #27145149 - 01/13/21 06:30 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Davemc86 said:
heating




Quote:

Davemc86 said:
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Re: Tub not pinning and white Puff balls [Re: Bikerfool]
    #27145360 - 01/13/21 08:44 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Sorry the gang. Need a degree in computer coding to upload a pic here.

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Re: Tub not pinning and white Puff balls [Re: Josex]
    #27145364 - 01/13/21 08:46 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

What a guy. 💪🏼

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Re: Tub not pinning and white Puff balls [Re: Davemc86]
    #27145931 - 01/13/21 01:13 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

What variety is that btw? Things look fishy for sure.
That tray is trying to fruit but it's fruiting those blobs instead of mushrooms. The colony is probably reacting to some contamination like bacteria. The surface looks bad too and I think the chamber is failing at what it's supposed to do; help maintain good conditions.

If you give us a rundown on everything you did from the beginning to get to this point I'm sure we can help you fix your mistakes. The more detailed you are the better.

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Re: Tub not pinning and white Puff balls [Re: Josex]
    #27146044 - 01/13/21 02:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Ahhhh ok. Should I lash these or hold fire for a little.

So started by inoculating  a grain bag. Left it for the mycelium to take hold. It was pretty much the whole bag. Put the bag with my substrate and mix together. Threw it into the tub. Left it in a dark place with lid closed for 10 days. Took it out 4 days ago and put in room with lid flipped allowing a little  bit of circulation. Been fanning 3/4 times a day. And have misted when it looked dry.

Sorry I can’t be more specific then that.

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Re: Tub not pinning and white Puff balls [Re: Josex]
    #27146118 - 01/13/21 03:19 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry they are B+

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Re: Tub not pinning and white Puff balls [Re: Davemc86]
    #27146287 - 01/13/21 05:02 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Davemc86 said:
Ahhhh ok. Should I lash these or hold fire for a little.

So started by inoculating  a grain bag. Left it for the mycelium to take hold. It was pretty much the whole bag. Put the bag with my substrate and mix together. Threw it into the tub. Left it in a dark place with lid closed for 10 days. Took it out 4 days ago and put in room with lid flipped allowing a little  bit of circulation. Been fanning 3/4 times a day. And have misted when it looked dry.

Sorry I can’t be more specific then that.




You don't need to be fanning and careful with the misting because, blobs aside, you got that surface looking pretty beaten up. Also, flipping the lid contributed to dry out the surface even faster, just put the lid on normally next time, there should be plenty of air exchange with the lid resting on top normally. Maybe keep the tray to see what'll do but I wouldn't get my hopes high it will produce mushrooms.

Did you buy that grain bag pre-sterilized perhaps? We constantly hear bad reviews about those on the forum. Always much better to make your own grain. Even if you don't own a PC you can still do jars with whole brown rice and steam sterilize it in a pot.

It's also very recommended you learn agar to produce clean mycelium to inoculate grains with, because inoculating grains with spore solution is always risky. Agar is easy as hell and very rewarding. The second link in my sig is how I do them. Pasty also has an agar tek, click here. The containers featured in Pasty's tek can only be found in America and Canada afaik, so if you live elsewhere, my tek has you covered.

Next time, build a proper chamber. This is very important if you want your grow to be as set and forget as possible, that way you don't have to do anything so you don't fuck up from user error. You also don't want to mist the box as often as you're doing (that was one of your user errors) because it can ruin the surface. Also fanning is completely unnecessary, a properly built chamber gets constant and passive fresh air exchange and that's all you need.

No need to put stuff in the dark, that's outdated and actually bad. Mycelium benefits from a 12/12 light/dark cycle in all circumstances.

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Re: Tub not pinning and white Puff balls [Re: Josex]
    #27147190 - 01/14/21 06:53 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Rightio my good man. Thanks for the info.

I’ll let this go for another week. Then put it in the compost.

Yeahhh bought pre sterilised. Will make my own in future and follow the guidance you have out above. .

Thanks again.

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