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OfflinecharlieXxXxX
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PF cakes -Gourmet
    #2714497 - 05/22/04 11:17 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

10 days after birthing Pearl Oyster, Shirotamogitake and Lion's Mane cakes, the Shirotamogitake is growing funky things!  :smile:







I assume this is aborted primorda?




What the heck is this?




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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2714612 - 05/22/04 12:13 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Nice way to try different spp. in a small area! :thumbup:
Or how big are those cakes?

It seems that you used grain for those cakes...


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2714652 - 05/22/04 12:26 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I wonder what that yellow stuff is. Have never seen anything like this.


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: Speeker]
    #2714797 - 05/22/04 01:36 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

They are 1 pint cakes.  I may find they have problems together but until I do I prefer to use the minimum possible containers to lower maintenance time.  (i am saying that i am lazy)

The Lion's Mane just started showing an icicle like fruit!  :smile:

rag: it is almost golden (a bit darker than the picture)
          looks like dried golden bubbles


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2721262 - 05/24/04 12:33 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

retracted


Edited by Mycena (06/03/04 02:44 AM)


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: Mycena]
    #2721566 - 05/24/04 03:17 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Have you got pictures from the paper-shitake block ?
I did not know that shitake would grow on paper.


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: Mycena]
    #2721569 - 05/24/04 03:19 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)


Your extensive experiences are great! We'd like to see more of your pictures as well.

You failed to comment on my growths though. The one that I thought was aborted primorda is growing larger and two similar ones have started. Can this be how an oyster looking mushroom would start out?

Have you ever seen anything like the orange thing? (It seems to have stopped growing.)

I do have a couple P.eryngii cakes started but none on grain. I'll try to remember to give it a try.


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: ragadinks]
    #2721570 - 05/24/04 03:21 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)


lol ragadinks

I thought you'd picked up that paper is a wood product.  :smile:


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2721576 - 05/24/04 03:27 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, finally I have realized that :wink:
But that does not mean that any woodloving species grows on any kind of wood.


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2721585 - 05/24/04 03:35 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

retracted


Edited by Mycena (06/03/04 02:44 AM)


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: Mycena]
    #2721603 - 05/24/04 03:44 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)


Thanks Mycena

I can relax now (and try to keep the air exchange up)  :smile:

btw, pic 2, 3 and 4 are all of the same H. ulmarius cake.


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2726257 - 05/25/04 02:19 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

retracted


Edited by Mycena (06/03/04 02:43 AM)


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: Mycena]
    #2736830 - 05/27/04 12:51 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Well primorda on the H.ulmarius seems to be drying out!



But the pearl oyster is looking up.  :smile:



As is the Lion's Mane.




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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2743659 - 05/29/04 05:16 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

retracted


Edited by Mycena (06/03/04 02:24 AM)


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: Mycena]
    #2756848 - 06/02/04 01:14 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

I took your sound advice and gave the H.ulmarius among others a dunk.



I think H.ulmarius is not the only thing morphing! Here are two Pearl Oysters. They look nothing alike! weird






I am most pleased to have an apparantly normal lion's mane fruit growing from a PF cake!




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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2757126 - 06/02/04 02:25 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

It seems to me as if the oysters and ulmarius need more fresh air and light.
When I grew my P.pulmonarius indoors with too little light and fresh air they looked like your oysters.


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: ragadinks]
    #2759904 - 06/03/04 07:42 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for sharing your experiences ragadinks. I am going to try to follow your and Mycena?s advice with this US$14 greenhouse that Menards (lumber yard) had on sale.



In alt.nature.mushrooms Yachaj, who professes to have successfully grown PF style gourmet cakes, says:

Unfortunately, infeed, not many mushrooms like the vermiculite/ricepowder mixture (PF Substrate). Oyster mushrooms are the only mushrooms that I know of, but those do not fruit when grown in HIPPIE-style or even in a terrarium (oysters hate high levels of carbon dioxide - they want lots of oxygen for large fruitbodies).

The species I mentioned (goldneedles, oysters, shiitake and lion?s mane) all will fruit on pint cakes with a mixture of small woodchips and brown rice.
All except the oysters will also fruit in small, terrarium-like
environments.


Edited by charlieXxXxX (06/03/04 11:34 AM)


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2778421 - 06/09/04 03:54 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Well it seems Lion's Mane and Oysters will grow PF style. (With the oysters being moved outside to fruit.)





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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2779744 - 06/09/04 11:10 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

is that normal PF-style substrate?

if not, could you post the recipe you used?


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #2780488 - 06/10/04 07:24 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

The cakes where completely PF style up until birth with the exception of adding 1/4 teaspoon gypsum, 1/4 cup wood fuel pellets and the water to hydrate the pellets to the standard PF formula.


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2789525 - 06/13/04 07:38 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Shirotamogitake also does fine; with the same need as oysters for air exchange.



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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2794123 - 06/15/04 06:32 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

1 day later



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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2799776 - 06/16/04 03:52 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

A couple of questions.... I would love to grow those lions maine mushies.... are those pint or half pint jars? Also how much per cake do you usually get (fruit wise) last, how long from innoc to fruit does it take? Thanks!


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2801649 - 06/17/04 07:44 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

with this US$14 greenhouse that Menards (lumber yard) had on sale.



-No sh*t. Franks Nursery has that exact greenhouse for (i think something like) $75.
--I'll have to check out menards website maybe..


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: azcrash]
    #2802036 - 06/17/04 10:34 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

As stated previously, they are pint cakes. I don't know what total yield will be as have only harvested 1 mushroom so far from the cake. Stamets says innoculation to fruiting could be as short as 3 weeks. Mine took more like 5 to 6 weeks. Temperatures and the environment that I provided where less than ideal. At least I know it can be done!


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2901072 - 07/17/04 10:00 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

do u think it would be posabal to make shitake spawn using a pf tek mabey add some saw dust for food and then spawn that to a sawdust block?


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2912343 - 07/21/04 01:00 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Here is a pic of 1/2 pint widemouth reishi PF style cake, not sure how it was done, I picked it up at another site:



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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: mah2b1]
    #2912523 - 07/21/04 01:57 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: Speeker]
    #2912628 - 07/21/04 02:27 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the link I plane on growing shiitake in that manner and also in a sawdust block


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: tatubom1]
    #2937815 - 07/28/04 07:34 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

lol I will not be holding my breath OK?

shiitake:



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