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OfflinecharlieXxXxX
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PF cakes -Gourmet
    #2714497 - 05/22/04 11:17 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

10 days after birthing Pearl Oyster, Shirotamogitake and Lion's Mane cakes, the Shirotamogitake is growing funky things!  :smile:







I assume this is aborted primorda?




What the heck is this?




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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2714612 - 05/22/04 12:13 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Nice way to try different spp. in a small area! :thumbup:
Or how big are those cakes?

It seems that you used grain for those cakes...


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2714652 - 05/22/04 12:26 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I wonder what that yellow stuff is. Have never seen anything like this.


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: Speeker]
    #2714797 - 05/22/04 01:36 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

They are 1 pint cakes.  I may find they have problems together but until I do I prefer to use the minimum possible containers to lower maintenance time.  (i am saying that i am lazy)

The Lion's Mane just started showing an icicle like fruit!  :smile:

rag: it is almost golden (a bit darker than the picture)
          looks like dried golden bubbles


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2721262 - 05/24/04 12:33 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

retracted


Edited by Mycena (06/03/04 02:44 AM)


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: Mycena]
    #2721566 - 05/24/04 03:17 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Have you got pictures from the paper-shitake block ?
I did not know that shitake would grow on paper.


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: Mycena]
    #2721569 - 05/24/04 03:19 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)


Your extensive experiences are great! We'd like to see more of your pictures as well.

You failed to comment on my growths though. The one that I thought was aborted primorda is growing larger and two similar ones have started. Can this be how an oyster looking mushroom would start out?

Have you ever seen anything like the orange thing? (It seems to have stopped growing.)

I do have a couple P.eryngii cakes started but none on grain. I'll try to remember to give it a try.


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: ragadinks]
    #2721570 - 05/24/04 03:21 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)


lol ragadinks

I thought you'd picked up that paper is a wood product.  :smile:


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2721576 - 05/24/04 03:27 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, finally I have realized that :wink:
But that does not mean that any woodloving species grows on any kind of wood.


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2721585 - 05/24/04 03:35 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

retracted


Edited by Mycena (06/03/04 02:44 AM)


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: Mycena]
    #2721603 - 05/24/04 03:44 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)


Thanks Mycena

I can relax now (and try to keep the air exchange up)  :smile:

btw, pic 2, 3 and 4 are all of the same H. ulmarius cake.


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2726257 - 05/25/04 02:19 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

retracted


Edited by Mycena (06/03/04 02:43 AM)


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: Mycena]
    #2736830 - 05/27/04 12:51 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Well primorda on the H.ulmarius seems to be drying out!



But the pearl oyster is looking up.  :smile:



As is the Lion's Mane.




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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2743659 - 05/29/04 05:16 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

retracted


Edited by Mycena (06/03/04 02:24 AM)


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: Mycena]
    #2756848 - 06/02/04 01:14 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

I took your sound advice and gave the H.ulmarius among others a dunk.



I think H.ulmarius is not the only thing morphing! Here are two Pearl Oysters. They look nothing alike! weird






I am most pleased to have an apparantly normal lion's mane fruit growing from a PF cake!




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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2757126 - 06/02/04 02:25 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

It seems to me as if the oysters and ulmarius need more fresh air and light.
When I grew my P.pulmonarius indoors with too little light and fresh air they looked like your oysters.


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: ragadinks]
    #2759904 - 06/03/04 07:42 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for sharing your experiences ragadinks. I am going to try to follow your and Mycena?s advice with this US$14 greenhouse that Menards (lumber yard) had on sale.



In alt.nature.mushrooms Yachaj, who professes to have successfully grown PF style gourmet cakes, says:

Unfortunately, infeed, not many mushrooms like the vermiculite/ricepowder mixture (PF Substrate). Oyster mushrooms are the only mushrooms that I know of, but those do not fruit when grown in HIPPIE-style or even in a terrarium (oysters hate high levels of carbon dioxide - they want lots of oxygen for large fruitbodies).

The species I mentioned (goldneedles, oysters, shiitake and lion?s mane) all will fruit on pint cakes with a mixture of small woodchips and brown rice.
All except the oysters will also fruit in small, terrarium-like
environments.


Edited by charlieXxXxX (06/03/04 11:34 AM)


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2778421 - 06/09/04 03:54 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Well it seems Lion's Mane and Oysters will grow PF style. (With the oysters being moved outside to fruit.)





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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: charlieXxXxX]
    #2779744 - 06/09/04 11:10 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

is that normal PF-style substrate?

if not, could you post the recipe you used?


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We got Nothing!
we're no longer selling jars.  :laugh:


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Re: PF cakes -Gourmet [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #2780488 - 06/10/04 07:24 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

The cakes where completely PF style up until birth with the exception of adding 1/4 teaspoon gypsum, 1/4 cup wood fuel pellets and the water to hydrate the pellets to the standard PF formula.


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