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 Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them 
#27144313 - 01/12/21 08:07 PM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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https://gizmodo.com/psychedelic-mushrooms-grew-in-a-mans-veins-after-he-inj-1846044856#replies
A man’s experiment with psychedelic mushrooms went disastrously wrong and nearly killed him, according to his doctors. In a new case report released this week, they detailed how the man injected a “tea” made from the mushrooms into his body and developed a life-threatening infection that had them growing in his blood. The experience left him in the hospital for close to a month. Fortunately, he survived.
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: PumpJackTeX]
#27144364 - 01/12/21 08:24 PM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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I just saw this story and immediately came here, I KNEW it would be here! This is what happens when IDIOTS take drugs!!!
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#27144593 - 01/12/21 10:03 PM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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Holy shit how dumb can you be
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: morrowasted]
#27144621 - 01/12/21 10:21 PM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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Sounds like sloppy reporting. He boiled the shrooms, according to the article. More likely what happened is that the syringe was contaminated with Candida and he got a Candida infection. Or other similar pathogenic fungus.
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: gone-pear-shaped]
#27144790 - 01/13/21 12:18 AM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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It sounds like the culture grew really fast in two days. Has anybody tried a human blood agar?
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: Narrator]
#27144873 - 01/13/21 02:08 AM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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Just posting anecdotally, because some people are gluttons for punishment --
Ketosis can be a feast and not starvation.
Mostly-harmless, potent, fungicidal, OTC herbs can be recommended, when you're growing your own mushrooms. You can nibble on some nasty tasting bitters, without shutting your organs of elimination down, with toxic concentrates.
Holistically speaking, the patient would have immune and stamina issues.
 Detox...
Everything takes it toll on the system, requires a balance and recuperation.
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: Narrator]
#27144879 - 01/13/21 02:13 AM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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Who needs substrates when you can literally grow mushrooms inside yourself and be high all the time?
Inb4 i.v. Tek 
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: InnerWisdom] 1
#27144898 - 01/13/21 02:28 AM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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I lie in the soil and fertilize mushrooms
Leaking out gas fumes are made into perfume
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: durian_2008]
#27144996 - 01/13/21 05:21 AM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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Holy damn, there is a better article here that says the fungi were cultured and actually were Psilocybe cubensis!
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: gone-pear-shaped] 1
#27145428 - 01/13/21 11:19 AM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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gone-pear-shaped said:
Holy damn, there is a better article here that says the fungi were cultured and actually were Psilocybe cubensis!
The paper says "Cultures confirmed bacteremia (ultimately cultured as Brevibacillus) and fungemia (ultimately cultured as Psilocybe cubensis – i.e. the species of mushroom he had injected was now growing in his blood)"
I smell BS, the report says absolutely nothing about how they determined it was P. cubensis. Peer reviewers can sometimes be lazy or dumb and this is the Journal of the Academy of Consultation–Liaison Psychiatry. I don't expect them to know much (if anything) about mycology and molecular biology. Until they provide the methods to determine that P. cubensis was growing in this guy's blood, I will be skeptic.
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: VP123]
#27145475 - 01/13/21 11:41 AM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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Uh, the medical lab techs know how to culture basically any microorganism from a blood sample... Sometimes it takes a while but inevitably it gets done.
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: morrowasted]
#27145732 - 01/13/21 01:49 PM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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Uh, the medical lab techs know how to culture basically any microorganism from a blood sample... Sometimes it takes a while but inevitably it gets done.
I agree but there is no description of methods. Why should I trust what they say if they don't tell me how they came to that conclusion? That's very much what peer review is for. To prevent the publication of BS.
Just remember the cold fusion fiasco. It was published but not true.
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: VP123] 1
#27145767 - 01/13/21 01:59 PM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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Junkies are hilarious. He would inject Doritos and Coca Cola into his veins if he could. 
PS the tea would have killed all the spores anyway, so he got some fungal infection from a dirty needle not psilocybin mushroom tea.
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: VP123]
#27145850 - 01/13/21 02:39 PM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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VP123 said:
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gone-pear-shaped said:
Holy damn, there is a better article here that says the fungi were cultured and actually were Psilocybe cubensis!
The paper says "Cultures confirmed bacteremia (ultimately cultured as Brevibacillus) and fungemia (ultimately cultured as Psilocybe cubensis – i.e. the species of mushroom he had injected was now growing in his blood)"
I smell BS, the report says absolutely nothing about how they determined it was P. cubensis. Peer reviewers can sometimes be lazy or dumb and this is the Journal of the Academy of Consultation–Liaison Psychiatry. I don't expect them to know much (if anything) about mycology and molecular biology. Until they provide the methods to determine that P. cubensis was growing in this guy's blood, I will be skeptic.
I'm pretty skeptic about that as well.
Before reading the article I assumed it was a different fungus causing the infection, then read that cubensis was in fact the fungus that they found....
....but I'm still having a hard time believing that.
Just seems like the boiling of the tea/spores would make them sterile.....So cubensis spores can "germinate" in blood in a human body  , that's pretty wild if so. Does this mean there were some teeny tiny threads of mycelium starting to form through out his cardiovascular system?
I haven't read the article in the journal yet that has the details of it all...but did anyone catch how soon the symptoms/issues started for him after he injected the tea?
I wonder how his trip went lol, all reports and stories I've heard about taking tryptamines via IV have been super wild/intense....I also wonder how much liquid he injected. When I think of people taking drugs via IV, I think of a relatively tiny amount of liquid in a relatively small syringe. Unless he used a super small amount of water and reduced it down a lot, a dose of tea seems like a lot of liquid to push into one's veins lol.
That dude was on his way to becoming this lol>>>>>>
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#27146117 - 01/13/21 05:19 PM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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tyrannicalrex said:
I just saw this story and immediately came here, I KNEW it would be here! This is what happens when IDIOTS take drugs!!!
Don't be so harsh with him. He had bipolar disease, and he'd gone off his meds. People with bipolar do this at times because standard drug side effects are so awful.
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: sonoramo]
#27146155 - 01/13/21 05:48 PM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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but did anyone catch how soon the symptoms/issues started for him after he injected the tea?
the medical case report just says that the symptoms developed "over a few days". Likely started pretty quickly. Fungemia will fuck your shit up fast and hard. By the time he got to the hospital, given the case report, my guess is he would have been dead in 48hrs tops without treatment
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: morrowasted]
#27146328 - 01/13/21 07:29 PM (1 month, 22 days ago) |
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Shoulda 
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He then “filtered” this substance by drawing it through a cotton swab before directly injecting the solution intravenously.
I bet spores got on the cotton swab.
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: Narrator]
#27149118 - 01/15/21 06:53 AM (1 month, 21 days ago) |
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Narrator said:
It sounds like the culture grew really fast in two days. Has anybody tried a human blood agar?
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: polaritymind]
#27149612 - 01/15/21 01:40 PM (1 month, 21 days ago) |
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Why the fuck wouldn't he just get some 4-ACO-DMT if he wanted to slam something shroom-related up his arm? This is the kind of shit that will fuck up pro-psilocybin legislation.
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
#27149760 - 01/15/21 03:19 PM (1 month, 21 days ago) |
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Camwritesgonzo said:
Why the fuck wouldn't he just get some 4-ACO-DMT if he wanted to slam something shroom-related up his arm? This is the kind of shit that will fuck up pro-psilocybin legislation.
Mentally ill people do crazy things. That's why people call them "crazy." If you don't believe me, search on "Man Injects 18 'Doses' of Semen Into Arm to Cure Back Pain, Ends Up in Hospital."
Yes, really. And it was his own semen, not somebody else's.
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: PumpJackTeX]
#27150158 - 01/15/21 07:16 PM (1 month, 20 days ago) |
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Accomplished people go to Burning Man and post, here.
Some don't belong in polite society.
Are we being biased, for not suspecting the lab tech as a possible source of contamination?
For starters, does this claim meet the standard of reproducibility, or has it ever happened, before?
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: durian_2008]
#27150917 - 01/16/21 06:59 AM (1 month, 20 days ago) |
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I don't know if it makes sense to suspect the lab tech of "contamination", or else you'd see that contamination elsewhere.
But I do find it very hard to believe that p. cubensis was actually reproducing in the mans bloodstream, assuming the man wasn't covered in spores that somehow made it into his blood sample, then I imagine he had spores in his blood. Red blood cells have a diameter of ~8 um, I think spores are ~12 um.
And if not spores, then perhaps he had enough genetic information from mushroom material floating around in his blood that it was culture-able...like a liquid culture. But that doesn't mean mycelium was actually growing in his blood stream.
OR
It wasn't actually p. cubensis they cultured at all, but knowing the man's story the lab jumped to that conclusion with what would otherwise be inconclusive results at that point, and everyone else was perfectly happy to believe it.
After all how much experience do you really think that lab has with identifying fungi, outside of the few common pathogenic fungi, in a person's blood, this is likely to be the very first time they had ever encountered p. cubensis(or what was reported to be p. cubensis)...perhaps they identified some kind of fungi and went with it...and this would hardly be the first time that doctors had twisted reality or even lied to get published.
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#27151970 - 01/16/21 08:38 PM (1 month, 19 days ago) |
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tyrannicalrex said:
I just saw this story and immediately came here, I KNEW it would be here! This is what happens when IDIOTS take drugs!!!
I can't wrap my head around how desperate some people are to get high, I'll never understand what would make someone even think that would be a good idea to iv mushroom juice. I don't know, maybe it's because I'm familiar with how injectable pharmaceuticals are made and can also remember seeing what happens when compounding pharmaceutical companies are lax on sterile protocol, people die!!!
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: Doc9151]
#27152107 - 01/16/21 10:13 PM (1 month, 19 days ago) |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_Act
A mishap results in their pictures being swapped on their permanent school records. In effect, Blade is surprised to find out that he is being placed in gifted classes, while Duncan is shocked to be placed in minimal classes with substandard conditions and miscreants for classmates.
Like the different parts, in a big hospital.
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: Doc9151]
#27152487 - 01/17/21 02:08 AM (1 month, 19 days ago) |
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Agreed, it's the ignorance of not educating oneself when embarking on the recreational drug journey.
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#27154012 - 01/17/21 08:34 PM (1 month, 18 days ago) |
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/inject-mushrooms/
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Did a Man Suffer Organ Failure After Injecting Psychedelic Mushrooms?
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In January 2021, several outlets reported on the story of a man who “injected a ‘tea’ made from [hallucinogenic] mushrooms into his body and developed a life-threatening infection that had them growing in his blood.” This reporting stemmed from the Jan. 11, 2021, publication of a case study in the Journal of the Academy of Consultation-Liaison Psychiatry, which described the case.
The report concerns a 30-year-old man who made a “tea” by boiling psilocybin-containing mushrooms in water before injecting the resulting liquid into his veins, something he did in an attempt to self-treat his opioid dependence and depression. “Over the next several days,” the authors reported, “he developed lethargy, jaundice, diarrhea, nausea, and hematemesis before he was found by family” and taken to the hospital. While there, he experienced multiple system organ failure.
One of the most viral elements of the reporting on this case is the claim that the injection of this “tea” resulted in psilocybin fungi growing in his own blood stream. This, too, is a factual representation of the case. Cultures of his blood revealed that “the species of mushroom he had injected was now growing in his blood.”
The man survived the ordeal after spending 22 days in the hospital, eight of which were spent in the ICU.
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: Ps.NoName]
#27154194 - 01/17/21 10:26 PM (1 month, 18 days ago) |
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That has got to be the lamest Snopes article I've ever read. It just cites the Daily Mail article as though it were proof, rather than the claim under question.
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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: Doc9151]
#27154656 - 01/18/21 05:41 AM (1 month, 18 days ago) |
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Doc9151 said:
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tyrannicalrex said:
I just saw this story and immediately came here, I KNEW it would be here! This is what happens when IDIOTS take drugs!!!
I can't wrap my head around how desperate some people are to get high, I'll never understand what would make someone even think that would be a good idea to iv mushroom juice. I don't know, maybe it's because I'm familiar with how injectable pharmaceuticals are made and can also remember seeing what happens when compounding pharmaceutical companies are lax on sterile protocol, people die!!!
He was suffering from bi-polar disorder and was motivated by irrational thoughts brought on by his mental illness rather than any desperation to get high.
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