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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: PumpJackTeX]
    #27150158 - 01/15/21 07:16 PM (1 month, 20 days ago)

Accomplished people go to Burning Man and post, here.

Some don't belong in polite society.

Are we being biased, for not suspecting the lab tech as a possible source of contamination?

For starters, does this claim meet the standard of reproducibility, or has it ever happened, before?


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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: durian_2008]
    #27150917 - 01/16/21 06:59 AM (1 month, 20 days ago)

I don't know if it makes sense to suspect the lab tech of "contamination", or else you'd see that contamination elsewhere.

But I do find it very  hard to believe that p. cubensis was actually reproducing in the mans bloodstream, assuming the man wasn't covered in spores that somehow made it into his blood sample, then I imagine he had spores in his blood. Red blood cells have a diameter of ~8 um, I think spores are ~12 um.

And if not spores, then perhaps he had enough genetic information from mushroom material floating around in his blood that it was culture-able...like a liquid culture. But that doesn't mean mycelium was actually growing in his blood stream.

OR

It wasn't actually p. cubensis they cultured at all, but knowing the man's story the lab jumped to that conclusion with what would otherwise be inconclusive results at that point, and everyone else was perfectly happy to believe it.

After all how much experience do you really think that lab has with identifying fungi, outside of the few common pathogenic fungi, in a person's blood, this is likely to be the very first time they had ever encountered p. cubensis(or what was reported to be p. cubensis)...perhaps they identified some kind of fungi and went with it...and this would hardly be the first time that doctors had twisted reality or even lied to get published.


Edited by Holybullshit (01/16/21 07:19 AM)


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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #27151970 - 01/16/21 08:38 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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I just saw this story and immediately came here, I KNEW it would be here! This is what happens when IDIOTS take drugs!!!



I can't wrap my head around how desperate some people are to get high, I'll never understand what would make someone even think that would be a good idea to iv mushroom juice.  I don't know,  maybe it's because I'm familiar with how injectable pharmaceuticals are made and can also remember seeing what happens when compounding pharmaceutical companies are lax on sterile protocol, people die!!!


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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: Doc9151]
    #27152107 - 01/16/21 10:13 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_Act

A mishap results in their pictures being swapped on their permanent school records. In effect, Blade is surprised to find out that he is being placed in gifted classes, while Duncan is shocked to be placed in minimal classes with substandard conditions and miscreants for classmates.




Like the different parts, in a big hospital.


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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: Doc9151]
    #27152487 - 01/17/21 02:08 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

Agreed, it's the ignorance of not educating oneself when embarking on the recreational drug journey.


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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #27154012 - 01/17/21 08:34 PM (1 month, 18 days ago)

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/inject-mushrooms/

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Did a Man Suffer Organ Failure After Injecting Psychedelic Mushrooms?

True

In January 2021, several outlets reported on the story of a man who “injected a ‘tea’ made from [hallucinogenic] mushrooms into his body and developed a life-threatening infection that had them growing in his blood.” This reporting stemmed from the Jan. 11, 2021, publication of a case study in the Journal of the Academy of Consultation-Liaison Psychiatry, which described the case.

The report concerns a 30-year-old man who made a “tea” by boiling psilocybin-containing mushrooms in water before injecting the resulting liquid into his veins, something he did in an attempt to self-treat his opioid dependence and depression. “Over the next several days,” the authors reported, “he developed lethargy, jaundice, diarrhea, nausea, and hematemesis before he was found by family” and taken to the hospital. While there, he experienced multiple system organ failure.

One of the most viral elements of the reporting on this case is the claim that the injection of this “tea” resulted in psilocybin fungi growing in his own blood stream. This, too, is a factual representation of the case. Cultures of his blood revealed that “the species of mushroom he had injected was now growing in his blood.”

The man survived the ordeal after spending 22 days in the hospital, eight of which were spent in the ICU.


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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: Ps.NoName]
    #27154194 - 01/17/21 10:26 PM (1 month, 18 days ago)

That has got to be the lamest Snopes article I've ever read. It just cites the Daily Mail article as though it were proof, rather than the claim under question.


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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Grew in a Man's Veins After He Injected Them [Re: Doc9151]
    #27154656 - 01/18/21 05:41 AM (1 month, 18 days ago)

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Doc9151 said:
Quote:

tyrannicalrex said:
I just saw this story and immediately came here, I KNEW it would be here! This is what happens when IDIOTS take drugs!!!



I can't wrap my head around how desperate some people are to get high, I'll never understand what would make someone even think that would be a good idea to iv mushroom juice.  I don't know,  maybe it's because I'm familiar with how injectable pharmaceuticals are made and can also remember seeing what happens when compounding pharmaceutical companies are lax on sterile protocol, people die!!!




He was suffering from bi-polar disorder and was motivated by irrational thoughts brought on by his mental illness rather than any desperation to get high.


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