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OfflineMr.Fujiwawa
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I dont wana trip anymore * 2
    #27138807 - 01/09/21 11:52 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

When I trip on mushrooms and DMT I experience paranormal activity level shit.
I don't see these things as drugs anymore. Its more like the tent of meeting from the bible where Moses's tribe would talk to God. But when someone entered the tent of meeting without being called upon they would die instantly.

That's how I feel about mushrooms. If I eat them again I fear of getting tortured or messing up my brain.

I'm not a newbie either I've eaten mushrooms over 20 times in 2 years.

My last trip was 2 months ago.

I'm sad and lonely and want to escape again but fear the consequences.


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Re: I dont wana trip anymore [Re: Mr.Fujiwawa] * 1
    #27138819 - 01/10/21 12:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Seek therapy, friend. They aren't good for everyone. One mans poison is another mans cure.


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Re: I dont wana trip anymore [Re: bitcrazyy]
    #27138823 - 01/10/21 12:09 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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bitcrazyy said:
Seek therapy, friend. They aren't good for everyone. One mans poison is another mans cure.




Agreed.

IMO to get the benefits out of psychedelics you kinda of have to be doing it for the right reasons or at least be in the right mindset. I wouldn't think fear, loneliness and sadness qualifies for that, its more asking for trouble.

Indeed seek help and get yourself sorted before diving back into psychedelics. It doesn't hurt to take a break and seek other forms of therapy.


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Re: I dont wana trip anymore [Re: Mr.Fujiwawa]
    #27138846 - 01/10/21 12:34 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Mr.Fujiwawa said:
I don't see these things as drugs anymore. Its more like the tent of meeting from the bible where Moses's tribe would talk to God. But when someone entered the tent of meeting without being called upon they would die instantly.





sounds legit. if someone walked into my tent of godly fortune i would want god to smite them for being curious!


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Re: I dont wana trip anymore [Re: Mr.Fujiwawa]
    #27138850 - 01/10/21 12:37 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

20 times in 2 years, IMO feels like a lot. you might want to do what the other folks said, and seek therapy. Or you might want to take some time off... take 2, 3 4, months off. 24 months in 2 years, and you've done it 20+ times. Not sure if you're adding other drugs to these two years, but that could be a thing(weed, alcohol, etc.). Mushies are still a toxin. Like anything in the world, too much of anything is not good. take a break. Come back to it a few months later. Maybe you're going through some stuff in life?


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Re: I dont wana trip anymore [Re: Mr.Fujiwawa] * 2
    #27138851 - 01/10/21 12:43 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Mr.Fujiwawa said:
When I trip on mushrooms and DMT I experience paranormal activity level shit.
I don't see these things as drugs anymore. Its more like the tent of meeting from the bible where Moses's tribe would talk to God. But when someone entered the tent of meeting without being called upon they would die instantly.

That's how I feel about mushrooms. If I eat them again I fear of getting tortured or messing up my brain.

I'm not a newbie either I've eaten mushrooms over 20 times in 2 years.

My last trip was 2 months ago.

I'm sad and lonely and want to escape again but fear the consequences.




Actual psychologist here; seek a professional my friend, at least for your baseline mental health.

If you need assistance finding resources in your area, :pm: me.


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Re: I dont wana trip anymore [Re: Loaded Shaman] * 1
    #27139587 - 01/10/21 11:33 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

This is simply the perspective of one individual, but looking back all of my negative experiences yielded positive results. I have tripped hundreds of times, mostly alone and with 5g or higher doses. Many of those trips had moments when I was telling myself I was finished tripping, but something kept telling me to persevere.

You are correct in your comparison to the tent, but that is only the beginning. At least from my experience, the mushrooms will provide the necessary purifications and consecrations required to prepare you for entry.

It was a leap of faith, but placing myself in a solitary environment where calling for help was not an option is what got me through it.


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Re: I dont wana trip anymore [Re: blckmynnse8]
    #27139599 - 01/10/21 11:38 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

There's something dark and disturbing in your psyche that's bothering you, but you might not know what it is, or even realize it

You're gonna need to talk with someone

Take a break from psychedelics.

As soon as you feel like you're in a good headspace, you can likely enjoy tripping again. You can always try new things during your trips. Learning how to mediate helps a lot

Good luck and I hope things good better


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Re: I dont wana trip anymore [Re: Mr.Fujiwawa]
    #27140759 - 01/10/21 08:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Mr.Fujiwawa said:
When I trip on mushrooms and DMT I experience paranormal activity level shit.




Uhm, so what's the problem?  They are well known to do that. :solidnod:

Could be they're telling you something though.  :thataintright:


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Re: I dont wana trip anymore [Re: skOsH]
    #27141033 - 01/10/21 11:39 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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skOsH said:
There's something dark and disturbing in your psyche that's bothering you, but you might not know what it is, or even realize it

You're gonna need to talk with someone

Take a break from psychedelics.

As soon as you feel like you're in a good headspace, you can likely enjoy tripping again. You can always try new things during your trips. Learning how to mediate helps a lot

Good luck and I hope things good better




Correct. The same user told me in another thread that speaking to a professional "is for cucks".

That's all the context you need for this person's paradigm.


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Re: I dont wana trip anymore [Re: Mr.Fujiwawa] * 1
    #27141376 - 01/11/21 07:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

No one can help you. Therapy is definitely for the weak-minded. They are biased and can't do anything for you that you can't do for yourself. Anyone with a modicum of self awareness is wasting their time with a therapist. The supernatural is real. Can't help you with that. Instead of listening to these dorks saying "Seek professional help so you can keep doing drugs" you either take an extended break, stop, or seek your own spiritual guidance. That's the best advice you're going to get.

A lot of people don't experience these things, so they think they are right. There is nothing wrong with them, so there must be something wrong with you. This is how people work. But psychedelics aren't anything in particular but a new set of eyes. Some people are more observant than others, like not walking into a glass door.


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Re: I dont wana trip anymore [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #27141430 - 01/11/21 07:59 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

This guy said it. I agree completely but also a support system is really crucial in life in general... So I'd think about who you have to talk to and if not why not and what you can do to move in the direction of having a positive support system of humans in your life. It's really really good just to be able to talk to someone.


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Re: I dont wana trip anymore [Re: Mr.Fujiwawa] * 3
    #27141432 - 01/11/21 08:00 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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Mr.Fujiwawa said:
I'm sad and lonely and want to escape again but fear the consequences.



This sounds like you're resisting addressing something that is bothering you in your life. Tripping is easier than doing this thing, but while tripping your higher self feels guilty for escaping that responsibility. You're at a crossroads where you can continue to trip but feel worse about yourself for it, or take a break and come back when you've 'earned' another visit or at least satisfied some things on your mind.

I'm there myself. I spent a few years just aimlessly dabbling in psychedelics and I guess it's a "once you get the message, hang up the phone" type of thing. I was missing out on a lot of other opportunities in my life and had to shift focus to those for a while. I'm so close though to earning true peace of mind, self confidence, and calm. I finally feel like I'll have space and time to trip again, only this time better than ever because it will be justified.


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Re: I dont wana trip anymore [Re: larry.fisherman] * 2
    #27141862 - 01/11/21 11:34 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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larry.fisherman said:
No one can help you. Therapy is definitely for the weak-minded.

A lot of people don't experience these things, so they think they are right




Yeah crippling TRD and complex PTSD means i am weak minded and I don't experience problems.

Also when you labeled your own advice as the best advice, probably it because you found something that works for you and that's it

I guess veterans who are doing therapy with MDMA are weak minded


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Re: I dont wana trip anymore [Re: skOsH]
    #27141910 - 01/11/21 12:00 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Okay, bad example about the soldiers. They did enlist to carry a gun for a Neo fascist regime. Not all but the military is predatory like that. So you will gather weak minded individuals in that system.


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Re: I dont wana trip anymore [Re: LosTresOjos] * 1
    #27141930 - 01/11/21 12:15 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Great post Icon.
I would seek therapy friend. I empathize with the wanting to escape. Psychedelics can be great for that. However, eventually they stop being enjoyable like that as they are very deep drugs... and as noted above your sub-concious will start to get annoyed you aren't tackling your troubles and instead are engaged in a safety behaviour of avoidance.

Get a licensed psychologist to engage in some talk therapy with.
Take a break from psychedelics as you appear to be at the point where using them recreationally starts to bite back.
You will still be able to use them in future if you want to. But for now, your mind is telling you that there's other stuff for you to focus on. Address the stuff that's bothering you psychologically and then you may return to psychedelics if you please. You may then find that your start using them as an adjunct to what you learnt in therapy - instead of as a way to escape the troubles on your mind.

And larry.fisherman.....  I don't know what to say to you. You don't seem to be a very nice person for starters. Insulting people with mental health issues - calling them weak minded, are you serious? In addition to insulting everyone in this thread actually addressing the OP without a private agenda.
Open your mind, be more compassionate and if not - shut up and keep your nasty thoughts to yourself.


Edited by bob5 (01/11/21 12:24 PM)


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Re: I dont wana trip anymore [Re: skOsH] * 1
    #27141994 - 01/11/21 12:54 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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skOsH said:
Quote:

larry.fisherman said:
No one can help you. Therapy is definitely for the weak-minded.

A lot of people don't experience these things, so they think they are right




Yeah crippling TRD and complex PTSD means i am weak minded and I don't experience problems.

Also when you labeled your own advice as the best advice, probably it because you found something that works for you and that's it

I guess veterans who are doing therapy with MDMA are weak minded



I have PTSD, genius. You need a professional to what, ask you questions while you're high? Having mental health issues is "weak-minded." Sorry to burst your bubble. That is coming from someone with mental health issues. Therapy is useless for a lot of people. Can you tell me where this thread fell off the rails? That would be the first response. Guy uses psychedelics, says it's spiritually intense. The response is "seek therapy." Why even post is my question.


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Re: I dont wana trip anymore [Re: bob5] * 1
    #27142000 - 01/11/21 12:58 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

All therapists do is ask you shit you could ask yourself. If you want to pay someone for that because you got high on psychedelics and people on the internet told you that's bad, be my guest. This is called context. Find me nasty all you want, it clearly helps me see who can't think for themselves. Bob


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Re: I dont wana trip anymore [Re: larry.fisherman] * 2
    #27142028 - 01/11/21 01:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

larry is being realistic. finding the right person to talk to is hard. aside from loaded shaman, you would be hard pressed to find a therapist with enough experience that is relevant to what mr.F is going thru. hell, there is no guarantee that therapy is going to help at all.

i sought professional medical help after a suicide attempt and all that did was further my contempt for doctors because i wasnt treated like a person by the doctor or any of the inexperienced staff they had in charge of the ward. most were younger than I. "how can they relate?" i asked myself.

i know there are great doctors and therapists out there but they are few and far between.

good luck mr.F

we are here to talk it out with you (for free). open yourself up. ignore the troll responses and youll be fine.


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Re: I dont wana trip anymore [Re: split_by_nine] * 1
    #27142073 - 01/11/21 01:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

He's better off talking to a therapist than anyone here. You don't need a therapist who has gone through what you have, just someone who is good at listening and bouncing ideas back and forth and giving a higher perspective. I would recommend Fujiwawa seek out a licensed therapist.. sure, some therapists might not be much help, but if you search around you can find great ones who can really guide you through the issues you are facing.

The psychedelics are turning on you because you're trying to ignore something that is bothering you and they aren't going to let you escape like that like you've done in the past. As bob said, you can return to psychedelics in the future but now might be a good time to take a break.

All the best, Mr. Fujiwawa


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