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InvisibleMESCALATO
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more mystery pans. pic's
    #2714168 - 05/22/04 10:18 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)



i hate to keep bringing this back up but, found more of the mystery pans i posted last week growing in a lawn.
and i just wanted to share the pics.....they look so much like P subs, but what are they, it is driving me nuts not knowing. oh well happy hunting to every one.


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Re: more mystery pans. pic's [Re: MESCALATO]
    #2714215 - 05/22/04 10:58 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

looks like pan subbs and pan feonisecii but ive got limited experience with both of them =- interesting either way.


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Re: more mystery pans. pic's [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #2714234 - 05/22/04 11:08 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

the print is black so it is not a foe ( foes have brown prints) but i have had others tell me it is not a sub, and not a sphinctrinus, so i have no idea what they are.


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Re: more mystery pans. pic's [Re: MESCALATO]
    #2714308 - 05/22/04 11:49 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

well if it has a black spore print it should be a sub, but it is hard to tell.


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Re: more mystery pans. pic's [Re: MESCALATO]
    #2714516 - 05/22/04 01:26 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

wow thats a cool looking pan. hope someones able to identify it for you.


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Re: more mystery pans. pic's [Re: CptnGarden]
    #2714543 - 05/22/04 01:42 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I am hoping they are Pan subs as my lawn is regularly filled with them! :grin:
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Re: more mystery pans. pic's [Re: whiterasta]
    #2715167 - 05/22/04 06:10 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

usually pan subbs dont grow in lawns, the stem looks kind of thin to be a pan subb too.

tap the base of the stem, if it bruises blue  :thumbup:

but i've had trouble getting pan subbs to bruise blue...


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Re: more mystery pans. pic's [Re: macc1234]
    #2715538 - 05/22/04 07:58 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

"usually pan subbs dont grow in lawns..."

--what do they usually grow on? and what type of areas? fields? parks? i've seen a lot of post on subbs lately and think i might go on a hunt...anyone ever came across any in the new orleans area??

whatever it is...it has brillant colors to it.
real nice :thumbup:

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Re: more mystery pans. pic's [Re: MESCALATO]
    #2715606 - 05/22/04 08:14 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I found a mushroom like that today actually, but there was only 2 little ones and the stem was lighter than that. I just discarded them, the stems looked much too thin for subbs, more along the lines of foeniscii's stems


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Re: more mystery pans. pic's [Re: Psilostylin]
    #2717566 - 05/23/04 07:52 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

according to mushroom john dot com they grow from manure and IN LAWNS, or hay bails. oh well i guess i will never figure out what this mushroom is.

does any one know of a list of all the mushrooms in the panaleous family?
because i am sure its a pan but its not a sub.


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Re: more mystery pans. pic's [Re: MESCALATO]
    #2717710 - 05/23/04 10:42 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

There are approx. 25 specis of Panaeolus. Panaeolus subbalteatus is the primary psychoactive species.

I have posted their names below of 17 of the Panaeolus. The others are non-psychoactive and are not important to mention.
mj

It has black spores.

Panaeolina foenisecii Maire has brown spores. There are 4 species of Panaeolina. They are not psychoactive.

Here is a partial list of the non-active Panaeolus mushrooms.

Panaeolus acuminatus,
Panaeolus alcidus,
Panaeolus sphinctrinus,
Panaeolus antillarum.
panaeolus campanulatus,
Panaeolus moellerianus,
Panaeolus semiovatus,
Panaeolus papilionaceus.

Psychoactive Panaeolus mushrooms.

Panaeolus africanus.
Panaeolus ater,
Panaeolus castaneifolius,
Panaeolus fimicola,
Panaeolus mirosporus,
Panaeolus olivaceus,
Panaeolus retirugis,
Panaolus rubricaulis,
Panaeolus subbalteatus,
Panaeolus venezolanus.

And then there are 12 species of Copelandia mushrooms which are sometimes referred to as Panaeolus (mostly by European mycologists, while western mycologists prefer the genera Copelandia.

Psychoactive Copelandia Species:
Copelandia affinis,
Copelandia anomala,
Copelandia bispora,
Copelandia cambodginiensis,
Copelandia chlorocystis,
Copelandia cyanescens,
Copelandia lentisporus,
Copelandia mexicana,
Copelandia tirunelveliensis,
Copelandia tropica,
Copelandia tropicalis,
Copelandia westii.

And those are the species of the Coprinaceae which contain and/or do not contain psilocine/psilocybine.


mj
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Re: more mystery pans. pic's [Re: MESCALATO]
    #2718667 - 05/23/04 04:14 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Look like P. foen. to me. A brown print can look a lot like a black print if you are not under a strong light source. Look for white fringes under the gills. If there are some white fringes it is an active Panaeolus of some sort. I'm pretty sure these are just typical haymowers though; they are quite decieving to the hopeful mushroom hunter. Check the mushroom out more and if it is what I think it is, better luck next time.


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Re: more mystery pans. pic's [Re: thearmedforces]
    #2721658 - 05/24/04 07:03 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

>I'm pretty sure these are just typical haymowers though; they are quite decieving to the hopeful mushroom hunter

the print is BLACK im not color blind man.it is NOT a P foe.

mJ-thanks for the list


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Re: more mystery pans. pic's [Re: MESCALATO]
    #2722933 - 05/24/04 03:08 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Nice list mjshroomer, thanks for taking the time to do that buddy.

MESC, those sure look like the same ones we find here on the southwest coast of FLA.
-That's a much better pic than the last one.
--That mushroom is glowing beautiful shroomy colors like the ones i find here.
---The ones i find here though, stain a light-light sky-blue color at the base of the stems mycelium, only about 1 out of every 10 or so will exhibit this bluing, so-far, from what we have seen. So, keep looking for them, and keep looking for one of them to show some bluing, 'cause i bet if you find another patch or two than you will get to see the blue!

Keep shroomin,
GG


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