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Kristallnacht - The Night of Broken Glass......it just happened again 6
#27139237 - 01/10/21 08:55 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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A video by Arnold Schwarzenneger. It's hard not to think about the white nationalist fantasies of the Turner Diaries
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Re: Kristallnacht - The Night of Broken Glass......it just happened again [Re: VP123]
#27139408 - 01/10/21 10:06 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I really love hearing content like this from the Governator
While I agree with the message in this video for a call to unity and a stalwart defense against the ever encroaching threat of authoritarianism, I feel that the events at the capital are not equivalent to Kristallnacht.
The people who broke into the capital did not do so with the motivation to bring harm to a group of individuals because of their religion. They did so as a symbolic gesture against what they perceive as a corrupt government.
While I don't agree with what they did, I feel that in this day and age its important that the politicians get occasionally reminded that its really not that difficult for shit to go side ways when you piss off a large group of people, in this case all the rednecks in Trump's corner. It holds the politicians accountable for their actions out of fear and is one of many principles which was used to justify the second amendment.
If rioters ever want any real progress, they need to get the BLM people and the MAGA people to put aside their superficial differences and do a joint movement against the same government which is responsible for the grievances of both groups. The only reason why this doesn't happen is because the computer skews our communication, our information, our dialogue in order to fit a certain narrative. That narrative is to keep the people divided on as many issues as possible so no real movement can develop to threaten the status quo
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Re: Kristallnacht - The Night of Broken Glass......it just happened again [Re: Hikeadellic] 1
#27139435 - 01/10/21 10:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Replace the word religion with ideology. It was no different.
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Re: Kristallnacht - The Night of Broken Glass......it just happened again [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#27139516 - 01/10/21 11:03 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Awesome speech! I'm so sad he can't be president
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Re: Kristallnacht - The Night of Broken Glass......it just happened again [Re: VP123] 5
#27139630 - 01/10/21 11:56 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah I think it's becoming more and more clear that seeing parallels to authoritarianism in Trump's tactics and those of his followers requires not delusion ("TDS") but just some awareness of history.
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Re: Kristallnacht - The Night of Broken Glass......it just happened again [Re: psi] 2
#27139668 - 01/10/21 12:05 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good speech from Arnold!
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Re: Kristallnacht - The Night of Broken Glass......it just happened again [Re: bodhisatta]
#27141272 - 01/11/21 04:46 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Very good point Bod!
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Re: Kristallnacht - The Night of Broken Glass......it just happened again [Re: Hikeadellic] 1
#27141525 - 01/11/21 08:58 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hikeadellic said:
The people who broke into the capital did not do so with the motivation to bring harm to a group of individuals because of their religion. They did so as a symbolic gesture against what they perceive as a corrupt government.
I have no idea what corrupt government you are referring to. They were supporting Trump (who is the head of the current government). Many of Trump's allies have been convicted of crimes and this would make this a very corrupt administration. However, the rioters seemed to be quite OK with such corruption. If you want to argue that corruption in government caused his defeat in the elections, that is an amazing contortion of logic. Trump had more than 60 opportunities to present evidence to quite a few judges appointed during his administration. Even republican governors and secretaries of state asserted that there was no fraud. Trump's own Department of Homeland Security said it was one of the most secure elections.
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Hikeadellic said:
While I don't agree with what they did, I feel that in this day and age its important that the politicians get occasionally reminded that its really not that difficult for shit to go side ways when you piss off a large group of people, in this case all the rednecks in Trump's corner. It holds the politicians accountable for their actions out of fear and is one of many principles which was used to justify the second amendment.
They get reminded after every election. And in this election Trump was reminded of his errors by 81 million people. Yes, people have a recourse to make their representatives accountable. It is called voting. It is the true meaning of democracy. In case you did not watch the message from the governator, people grew angry because they believed lies, lies and more lies together with speeches that incited intolerance.
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Re: Kristallnacht - The Night of Broken Glass......it just happened again [Re: VP123]
#27141533 - 01/11/21 09:06 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Completely bizarre thread. Difficult to even comment on really because it's so far off the deep end.
1) Read a history book, not a 4 minute segment on a propaganda network.
2) Don't forget that The Enemy are the people who will push you off to war because photos of your corpse will be good for selling newspapers.
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Re: Kristallnacht - The Night of Broken Glass......it just happened again [Re: JonBa] 2
#27141544 - 01/11/21 09:12 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Beer Hall Putsch would probably have been a better analogy.
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Re: Kristallnacht - The Night of Broken Glass......it just happened again [Re: JonBa]
#27141628 - 01/11/21 09:51 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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JonBa said: Completely bizarre thread. Difficult to even comment on really because it's so far off the deep end.
1) Read a history book, not a 4 minute segment on a propaganda network.
Please elaborate, wise historian.
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Re: Kristallnacht - The Night of Broken Glass......it just happened again [Re: JonBa]
#27141657 - 01/11/21 10:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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JonBa said:
2) Don't forget that The Enemy are the people who will push you off to war because photos of your corpse will be good for selling newspapers.
lol, that's why we keep doing wars? For the newspapers?
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Re: Kristallnacht - The Night of Broken Glass......it just happened again [Re: Ezuma]
#27141677 - 01/11/21 10:08 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Now that the bad guys have won, those newspapers are going to be flying off the shelves.
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Re: Kristallnacht - The Night of Broken Glass......it just happened again [Re: VP123]
#27152794 - 01/17/21 06:25 AM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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VP123 said:
Thats a Republican as Conservatism is intended.
How did the Republican party get hijacked by fringe cringe racist totalitarian morons?
I rather have a president who forgot the launch code in case of a russian nuclear first strike than one who'd slam the button butthurt over a tweet.
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