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Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon * 2
    #27141549 - 01/11/21 09:15 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Howdy folks. Just yesterday I went on a trip to collect some Pseudohydnum gelatinosum (cat's tongue jelly fungus) from a nearby park. They grow on downed wood and woody debris, seemingly always under tree cover. They are edible and I read that they can be turned into gummy candies with a bit of work, so I wanted to give it a shot simply because of how weird they are. I haven't seen anybody else on this forum talk about actually eating these, so I wanted to share my experience. Below is a photo of a medium sized specimen.


They are semi-translucent and range from white to light grey. They look and feel like a very hydrated gummy bear, and the underside of the cap feels like a less abrasive cat's tongue. I ate one raw (after rinsing). The texture is... gelatinous. It's like eating flavorless jello that leaves a mild mushroom aftertaste in the back of your throat. Strange, but not bad.

The recipe I found for candying these is pretty simple. You soak them in syrup and then dehydrate them and coat them in powdered sugar if you want to. I managed to find about 200 grams of wet P. gelatinosum. I rinsed them off in clean water and trimmed any questionable or unsightly bits with a paring knife.


As they were drying off on some paper towels, I made a simple syrup with 1 cup water, 1 cup sugar, and the juice and zest from one lemon. I brought it to a low boil on my stove and then simmered it for about fifteen minutes. I tossed in the mushrooms after it had cooled down just a bit, and let them soak for about half an hour. I drained the extra syrup off and then transferred them to my food dehydrator. I dehydrated them at 165°F for 2 hours, and then tossed them in powdered sugar and dehydrated them for another 4 hours at 100°F. Voila!


They taste good! The lemon is strong enough, they're plenty sweet, and they're nice and chewy.

But honestly? I would not do this again. It was fun to do for the novelty, but they're weird. It's like a mushroom raisin. And I think I should have started off with a lower temperature on the dehydrator, because some of the smaller ones got a bit crispy, and the larger ones turned into this weird sticky hot mess that I had to peel off of the dehydrator tray. But I made mushroom candy!


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: joze]
    #27141570 - 01/11/21 09:22 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Well, That's Pretty Cool, Ya Learn Something New Everyday, Nice Job :cheers:


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: MpSeph]
    #27141612 - 01/11/21 09:37 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

I've made candies from them a number of times. Real good party trick there. There is also an undescribed species that grows directly on logs that gets much bigger than the real pseudohydnum. Using a syrup, or in my case juice, that's a dark color is a good move. It dyes them in a way that makes them look more like candies. I also paint mine with honey and then roll in sugar with large granules. For some extra fun drop a hit of lsd on them and see how your friends react. :ducklol:
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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: Sk8nshram]
    #27141686 - 01/11/21 10:14 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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Well, That's Pretty Cool, Ya Learn Something New Everyday, Nice Job :cheers:




Thanks!

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I've made candies from them a number of times. Real good party trick there. There is also an undescribed species that grows directly on logs that gets much bigger than the real pseudohydnum. Using a syrup, or in my case juice, that's a dark color is a good move. It dyes them in a way that makes them look more like candies. I also paint mine with honey and then roll in sugar with large granules. For some extra fun drop a hit of lsd on them and see how your friends react. :ducklol:
Jk always tell your friends if you've dosed the pseudohydnum.




:grin: If only I had LSD to dose them with. I'll have to try the juice trick. I thought about adding some strawberries to the syrup to give it some color but decided against it.


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: Sk8nshram]
    #27141727 - 01/11/21 10:33 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Dosed Pseudohydnum??? :vibin:

Awesome write up op, I’ve always wanted to Candy these things. Maybe coating them in a candy cap syrup as I always seem to find them when I’m hunting candy caps


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: mind.at.large]
    #27141780 - 01/11/21 11:04 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Sour Patch Pseudohydnum Gelatinosum


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: MpSeph]
    #27141911 - 01/11/21 12:00 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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Dosed Pseudohydnum??? :vibin:

Awesome write up op, I’ve always wanted to Candy these things. Maybe coating them in a candy cap syrup as I always seem to find them when I’m hunting candy caps




Now that would be awesome. I don't think I've ever seen a candy cap in the wild but I would love to try that.

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Sour Patch Pseudohydnum Gelatinosum




:cool: I love sour candy, I should have rolled these in citric acid instead of powdered sugar.


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: joze]
    #27142136 - 01/11/21 02:17 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Sk8nshram:lol: Just one small addition to the recipe ‘LSD’ hahaha


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #27142606 - 01/11/21 07:34 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

I wish I had friends that would even think about dosing the psuedohydum candy and giving me some or any candy for that matter.


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: joze]
    #27142613 - 01/11/21 07:43 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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Now that would be awesome. I don't think I've ever seen a candy cap in the wild but I would love to try that.




Finding candy caps in the wild can be tough due to the fact that there are so many red Lactarius species out there, but once you get to know it, you realize they can be all over the place! (obviously depending on where you live)

Tip: if you find a suspected candy cap, obviously smell it first, and if it's hard to tell if it smells like maple syrup, burn the cap a little to dry it. If it's a true candy cap, it will smell very sweet! I just recently made some candy cap syrup, sugar, and am about to make another batch of candy cap beer! The batch from last year was oh so delicious and was drunk wayyyy too quick haha


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: mind.at.large]
    #27142639 - 01/11/21 08:20 PM (3 years, 16 days ago)

It's a shame that candy caps are mycorrhizal, I bet candy cap beer would be a hit!!!


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: Doc9151]
    #27142666 - 01/11/21 08:35 PM (3 years, 16 days ago)

Oh it’s a hit indeed! Candy caps go great in a stout!

Yes being able to grow candy caps would be amazing, but there’s something about the hunt that makes it so great! I’ve been finding so many this year it’s been fantastic, even though this has been a crappy mushroom season overall

I’m not 100% sure on their distribution but do they grow out your way Doc? I’m thinking they are a west coast thing but don’t quote me on that


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: joze]
    #27143684 - 01/12/21 11:44 AM (3 years, 16 days ago)

This is awesome! I read about this in "All the Rain Promises and More" years ago and was confused and curious.


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: Doc9151]
    #27144606 - 01/12/21 08:13 PM (3 years, 15 days ago)

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It's a shame that candy caps are mycorrhizal, I bet candy cap beer would be a hit!!!




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Oh it’s a hit indeed! Candy caps go great in a stout!

Yes being able to grow candy caps would be amazing, but there’s something about the hunt that makes it so great! I’ve been finding so many this year it’s been fantastic, even though this has been a crappy mushroom season overall

I’m not 100% sure on their distribution but do they grow out your way Doc? I’m thinking they are a west coast thing but don’t quote me on that





I'm doing a candy cap oatmeal stout this Sunday!!


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: Sk8nshram]
    #27144852 - 01/12/21 11:40 PM (3 years, 15 days ago)

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I'm doing a candy cap oatmeal stout this Sunday!!



:awetongue:

That's awesome! Lemme know how it turns out!

Also, how much candy caps are you planning on using? My last batch I used 2 oz dried, but that ended up being more than I needed. It definitely wasn't too much but I'm sure you know just how strong that flavor can be.


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: Sk8nshram]
    #27145265 - 01/13/21 07:46 AM (3 years, 15 days ago)

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I'm doing a candy cap oatmeal stout this Sunday!!




I'm excited to hear about how this goes! Keep us updated. :cool:


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: joze]
    #27145482 - 01/13/21 09:43 AM (3 years, 15 days ago)

Yeah, this thread is completely insane. :robindance:


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    #27166944 - 01/24/21 09:40 AM (3 years, 4 days ago)

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Yeah, this thread is completely insane. :robindance:




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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: joze]
    #27167095 - 01/24/21 11:28 AM (3 years, 4 days ago)

Sk8, did you ever brew up that stout?

Also, everyone get over to the marketplace if you want a chance to get some candy caps sent to you from yours truly


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: mind.at.large]
    #27171539 - 01/26/21 06:36 PM (3 years, 2 days ago)

Yes, the primary fermentation will be done in a week or two. Then it'll go into secondary with the candy caps. Should have a beer by late February early March!


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: Sk8nshram]
    #27172153 - 01/27/21 03:03 AM (3 years, 1 day ago)

I found entry of this fungi in my local encyclopedia today. It is noted it goes well with some sugar and rum. So just an idea for you consumers of this jelly stuff


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: Sk8nshram]
    #27172631 - 01/27/21 10:14 AM (3 years, 1 day ago)

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Yes, the primary fermentation will be done in a week or two. Then it'll go into secondary with the candy caps. Should have a beer by late February early March!




I see you're also in the PNW... :cool: Any chance you'd consider trading/selling a couple of bottles? I would love to have the opportunity to try a candy cap beer holy shit.


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: Sk8nshram]
    #27172697 - 01/27/21 10:46 AM (3 years, 1 day ago)

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Yes, the primary fermentation will be done in a week or two. Then it'll go into secondary with the candy caps. Should have a beer by late February early March!



Nice dude! Gotta let us know how it goes!

How are you planning on introducing your candy caps? Just straight dried mushrooms like a dry hop or something else? When I did it, I made up a candy cap tea, and then dumped that in during high krausen. Like I mentioned before, plenty of candy cap flavor in those beers! And what else was cool was that after I made that tea and strained out the mushrooms, there was still plenty of flavor left that I made a simple syrup out of the leftover mushrooms haha! That shit was great on pancakes!

I’ll probably be making up another batch in the next week or two so I’ll let y’all know how that turns out


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: joze]
    #27172704 - 01/27/21 10:51 AM (3 years, 1 day ago)

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I see you're also in the PNW... :cool: Any chance you'd consider trading/selling a couple of bottles? I would love to have the opportunity to try a candy cap beer holy shit.



You missed out on my candy cap giveaway last week!

Also, Rogue brewery makes a candy cap beer I’ve always wanted to try, if you’re near them at all! It’s a pretty seasonal beer, so I’ve heard, so I’m not sure when it’s available...


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: mind.at.large]
    #27172860 - 01/27/21 12:26 PM (3 years, 1 day ago)

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I see you're also in the PNW... :cool: Any chance you'd consider trading/selling a couple of bottles? I would love to have the opportunity to try a candy cap beer holy shit.



You missed out on my candy cap giveaway last week!

Also, Rogue brewery makes a candy cap beer I’ve always wanted to try, if you’re near them at all! It’s a pretty seasonal beer, so I’ve heard, so I’m not sure when it’s available...




I don't have access to the marketplace yet, unfortunately, so I couldn't join in on the giveaway. But I will definitely keep my eye open for that beer, I'm usually a fan of Rogue's stuff.


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: joze] * 1
    #27175874 - 01/29/21 09:26 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Gonna spice up some candy cap cookies with baby scorpion


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #27559527 - 11/27/21 12:40 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Tis the season. Anyone out here candying P. gelatinosum?

I still haven't had any luck on the candy caps.


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: joze]
    #27562518 - 11/29/21 11:27 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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I still haven't had any luck on the candy caps.



Keep looking, they're out there in force right now... find doug fir and don't be afraid to get down and dirty digging through the duff.

separate hauls from this weekend...

Also, I seem to find them so frequently on very decayed wood, so I'll be trying out some experiments and seeing if cultivation is possible. I've also started to collect some of the wood that I find them growing on and  taking them home. Hopefully, they can push up some more fruits!



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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: mind.at.large]
    #27562642 - 11/30/21 04:06 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Some beautiful pseudo hydnies I found in September. Didn't coat them in sugar, just put them raw in juice to absorb it, then ate them.



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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: RenegadeMycologist]
    #27562786 - 11/30/21 08:01 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

How far north are candy caps found? I was under the impression they were not found very far north of the OR CA boarder and not further south of Santa Cruz.


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #27562828 - 11/30/21 08:47 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I feel like I remember reading that too but iNaturalist has observations all the way up into Vancouver. :shrug:


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #27562834 - 11/30/21 08:54 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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How far north are candy caps found? I was under the impression they were not found very far north of the OR CA boarder and not further south of Santa Cruz.





They're found up into canada.  I find them in northern oregon all the time.

My ex made some amazing candy gummies with Pseudohydnum one year, highly recommend.


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: mind.at.large]
    #27562957 - 11/30/21 10:32 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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I feel like I remember reading that too but iNaturalist has observations all the way up into Vancouver. :shrug:




I keep finding Lactarius spp. that look like candy caps but definitely don't have a maple odor. Do I just have a shitty nose? Should I bring them home and dehydrate them?


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    #27562959 - 11/30/21 10:33 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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Some beautiful pseudo hydnies I found in September. Didn't coat them in sugar, just put them raw in juice to absorb it, then ate them.





Oh man that sounds great, maybe I'll soak some in vodka and juice :grin:


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    #27562994 - 11/30/21 11:04 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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I feel like I remember reading that too but iNaturalist has observations all the way up into Vancouver. :shrug:




I keep finding Lactarius spp. that look like candy caps but definitely don't have a maple odor. Do I just have a shitty nose? Should I bring them home and dehydrate them?





The ones I found didn't smell like it until they started to dry in the knit cap on the way home.  That hat smelled like maple forever.  They can be a bit difficult to ID compared to other lactarius out there, that's true.


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Re: Pseudohydnum gelatinosum collection & candying - Oregon [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
    #27563038 - 11/30/21 11:47 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

They are definitely difficult mushrooms to ID correctly cause there are so many lookalikes, and fresh ones don’t really smell that much. (Well the fresh ones do have a unique smell that I can recognize pretty well, but it’s faint).

But the things to pay attention to are:
- dry cap, never viscid or sticky
- wrinkly cap with a ruffled margin
- watery milky latex that doesn’t ever turn yellow
- obviously the maple smell when dried. Try the lighter trick and “dry” one of the caps and see if that  works. That doesn’t always work in the field but sometimes it’s unmistakable.

You got any pics of the ones you’re finding? If you’re not sure, bring them home, dry them and throw them in a jar and smell them the next day. The smell should be pretty strong. I have noticed, however, the smell strengthens with time. The jar of them that I have from a couple years ago is insanely strong!

They are a very common mushroom around here, so I’m sure you’ve walked past many. It took me a while before I got confident enough with what they look like before I realized how many I’ve walked by/thrown out. Good luck!


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    #27563075 - 11/30/21 12:10 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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They are definitely difficult mushrooms to ID correctly cause there are so many lookalikes, and fresh ones don’t really smell that much. (Well the fresh ones do have a unique smell that I can recognize pretty well, but it’s faint).

But the things to pay attention to are:
- dry cap, never viscid or sticky
- wrinkly cap with a ruffled margin
- watery milky latex that doesn’t ever turn yellow
- obviously the maple smell when dried. Try the lighter trick and “dry” one of the caps and see if that  works. That doesn’t always work in the field but sometimes it’s unmistakable.

You got any pics of the ones you’re finding? If you’re not sure, bring them home, dry them and throw them in a jar and smell them the next day. The smell should be pretty strong. I have noticed, however, the smell strengthens with time. The jar of them that I have from a couple years ago is insanely strong!

They are a very common mushroom around here, so I’m sure you’ve walked past many. It took me a while before I got confident enough with what they look like before I realized how many I’ve walked by/thrown out. Good luck!






That definitely describes the ones I've been seeing. I'll bring a lighter with me next time. I also haven't stuck around too long to check if the latex stays white or yellows.


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    #27563079 - 11/30/21 12:12 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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They are definitely difficult mushrooms to ID correctly cause there are so many lookalikes, and fresh ones don’t really smell that much. (Well the fresh ones do have a unique smell that I can recognize pretty well, but it’s faint).

But the things to pay attention to are:
- dry cap, never viscid or sticky
- wrinkly cap with a ruffled margin
- watery milky latex that doesn’t ever turn yellow
- obviously the maple smell when dried. Try the lighter trick and “dry” one of the caps and see if that  works. That doesn’t always work in the field but sometimes it’s unmistakable.

You got any pics of the ones you’re finding? If you’re not sure, bring them home, dry them and throw them in a jar and smell them the next day. The smell should be pretty strong. I have noticed, however, the smell strengthens with time. The jar of them that I have from a couple years ago is insanely strong!

They are a very common mushroom around here, so I’m sure you’ve walked past many. It took me a while before I got confident enough with what they look like before I realized how many I’ve walked by/thrown out. Good luck!





This is great advice.  The cap texture was key for me.


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That definitely describes the ones I've been seeing. I'll bring a lighter with me next time. I also haven't stuck around too long to check if the latex stays white or yellows.



Those look good to me!!


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    #27563153 - 11/30/21 12:56 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

MY LORD AND SAVIOR THANK YOU. Oh my god I guess I'm going back to clear that patch of candy caps.


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    #27563279 - 11/30/21 02:32 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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That definitely describes the ones I've been seeing. I'll bring a lighter with me next time. I also haven't stuck around too long to check if the latex stays white or yellows.



Those look good to me!!




look good to me as well. They do not start to smell until they are dried (agreeing with above statements).

Here is another good resource for those that are interested.
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/55e5e7b5e4b0300afc3191e0/t/5c4696cdbba2236720320d85/1548130058152/Similar+Species+2+-+Candy+Caps.pdf


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    #27607047 - 01/04/22 05:43 PM (2 years, 24 days ago)

The candy cap oatmeal stout that my buddy and I made last year turned out super good btw. Been lurking around not posting and forgot about this thread. Will definitely be making one again soon!


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Hey Sk8, long time no see!

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Candy cap oatmeal stout sounds fucking amazing!


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