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Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid)
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If you have a spare 7 hours take a strong dose of lsd and watch this video. David Icke - Human race get off your knees, the lion sleeps no more!
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: longbus] 2
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holocaust denier and purveyor of reptile-human hybrid theories. im good
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: split_by_nine]
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: Ezuma] 1
#27140946 - 01/10/21 10:21 PM (3 years, 17 days ago) |
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I think Icke just had some kind of psychotic break without the aid of drugs. His stuff is a lot like "They Live" and the tv series "V". Plus some satanic panic. Stuff that was out around the time he went nuts and would appeal to the paranoid.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: split_by_nine]
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Please provide any evidence that he is a holocaust denier. I want a video or quote where he explicitly denies the holocaust.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: psi]
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He had an information download from the godhead in the mountains of peru. I have had the same thing on dmt.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: longbus] 1
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I think this is the video of his I saw on VHS. It was kind of disturbing and I wouldn't want to watch it again.

I am not sure if he's actually antisemetic or not. Some people think he is really referring to Jewish people when he talks about reptilians, but he maintains that isn't correct and he literally just does mean reptilian aliens.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: psi]
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I am very well aquainted with icke. He really does mean lizards.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: longbus] 1
#27140971 - 01/10/21 10:33 PM (3 years, 17 days ago) |
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Don't tell me what to do, dude.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: longbus]
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Please provide any evidence that he is a holocaust denier. I want a video or quote where he explicitly denies the holocaust.
chapter 7 of his book "...and the truth shall set you free"
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Please provide any evidence that he is a holocaust denier. I want a video or quote where he explicitly denies the holocaust.
People who genuinely care about evidence don’t post David Icke videos
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shortbus, you appear lost. Let me help you find your way home.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: longbus]
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He had an information download from the godhead in the mountains of peru. I have had the same thing on dmt.
how did you like Peru?
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: split_by_nine]
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It all happened so fast...
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: split_by_nine]
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Please provide any evidence that he is a holocaust denier. I want a video or quote where he explicitly denies the holocaust.
chapter 7 of his book "...and the truth shall set you free"

Okay... please highlight where he explicitly denies the holocaust ever happened. I must have missed that.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: longbus]
#27141034 - 01/10/21 11:40 PM (3 years, 17 days ago) |
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first paragraph.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: split_by_nine]
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I read that. It does not deny that the holocaust happened.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: longbus]
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Yeah it looks more like revisionism than outright denial.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: longbus] 4
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David Icke is 100% controlled opposition to make average IQ people feel like they're woke AF while still supporting the actual system that oppresses them, just with slightly more comfort and delusion.
Same with Alex Jones.
Honey pot artists meant to suck in neophytes that don't know any better, but will brigade and parrot information and create entire bullshit narratives that only mislead and muddy the waters...which is exactly the purpose of Icke and Jones.
There's your real conspiracy.
I've seen every Icke lecture and I own every single book that guy has published, btw, so I'm not just phrasing with no context here. I've studied him and the likes of him for years, he's absolutely controlled opposition.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: Loaded Shaman]
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So you dont believe anything he says?
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Do you? Which part of his data is correct? Which isn't? How would you know if your only source is Icke?
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: Loaded Shaman]
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Yeah they will both intermesh some stuff that is fairly sensible in with other stuff that is complete lunacy.
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Holocaust denial doesn’t necessarily mean a belief the holocaust didn’t occur. It also encompasses a belief the “official story” is false, that maybe not that many Jews were killed or the perpetrators were not the Nazis. Holocaust denial is questioning the historical fact that six million Jews were murdered by the Nazi.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: koods] 2
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The thing with Icke is he could say a massive truth in plain sight but then he will make a ridiculous claim that makes what is true seem equally as retarded, and people don't know the difference.
That's precisely his job.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#27141059 - 01/10/21 11:56 PM (3 years, 17 days ago) |
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Loaded Shaman said: David Icke is 100% controlled opposition to make average IQ people feel like they're woke AF while still supporting the actual system that oppresses them, just with slightly more comfort and delusion.
Same with Alex Jones.
Honey pot artists meant to suck in neophytes that don't know any better, but will brigade and parrot information and create entire bullshit narratives that only mislead and muddy the waters...which is exactly the purpose of Icke and Jones.
There's your real conspiracy.
I've seen every Icke lecture and I own every single book that guy has published, btw, so I'm not just phrasing with no context here. I've studied him and the likes of him for years, he's absolutely controlled opposition.
Or maybe he’s just a mentally imbalanced idiot, who figured out he could sell books to other idiots and make some money.
Controlled opposition 🤦♂️
What the fuck is happening to this country.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: Loaded Shaman]
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Do you? Which part of his data is correct? Which isn't? How would you know if your only source is Icke?
Well i believe the part about a global elite who control world events for their own benefit.
I also disagree with a lot of what he says. Like saying climate change isnt real for instance.
I believe he has the right general idea about a lot but disagree with some of the specifics.
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koods said: Holocaust denial doesn’t mean a belief the holocaust didn’t occur. It also encompasses a belief the “official story” is false, that maybe not that many Jews were killed or the perpetrators were not the Nazis. Holocaust denial is questioning the historical fact that six million Jews were murdered by the Nazi.
Oh stfu.
When people read "hes a holocaust denier" they think it means he denied the holocaust. I dont care what bullshit definiion you have to give it to suit your argument.
There is nothing wrong with questioning official naratives. The government lies all the time.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: Loaded Shaman]
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Loaded Shaman said: The thing with Icke is he could say a massive truth in plain sight but then he will make a ridiculous claim that makes what is true seem equally as retarded, and people don't know the difference.
That's precisely his job.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: longbus]
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When people read "hes a holocaust denier" they think it means he denied the holocaust
We don’t define concepts based upon what people think the definition is.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: longbus]
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Loaded Shaman said: David Icke is 100% controlled opposition to make average IQ people feel like they're woke AF while still supporting the actual system that oppresses them, just with slightly more comfort and delusion.
Same with Alex Jones.
Honey pot artists meant to suck in neophytes that don't know any better, but will brigade and parrot information and create entire bullshit narratives that only mislead and muddy the waters...which is exactly the purpose of Icke and Jones.
There's your real conspiracy.
I've seen every Icke lecture and I own every single book that guy has published, btw, so I'm not just phrasing with no context here. I've studied him and the likes of him for years, he's absolutely controlled opposition.
Or maybe he’s just a mentally imbalanced idiot, who figured out he could sell books to other idiots and make some money.
Controlled opposition 🤦♂️
What the fuck is happening to this country.
That's exactly what controlled opposition is; a trap for idiots that think they have information packed with integrity that everybody else "just isn't seeing".
See the majority of conspiracy theory threads on this board or reddit, or anywhere.
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Do you? Which part of his data is correct? Which isn't? How would you know if your only source is Icke?
Well i believe the part about a global elite who control world events for their own benefit.
I also disagree with a lot of what he says. Like saying climate change isnt real for instance.
I believe he has the right general idea about a lot but disagree with some of the specifics.
General elite corruption has been the theory since day 1, so that's nothing new. This guy claims there are lizards inside a hollow moon, which is actually a space ship, mind controlling people. It doesn't matter how accurate he may or may not be about the elite with a claim like that, which is designed to get you to throw the baby out with the bath water, and then ignore the claims which are actually true when you see them again down the line, because crazy lizard moon man was saying the same shit.
It's pure psychology, which also doesn't surprise me as why most don't understand that TBH, because psychology.
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That's precisely his job.
Ya but its up to me to sift through the bullshit.
Best of luck. I hope you have a reliable method for investigating claims that don't contradict.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: longbus]
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split_by_nine said: holocaust denier and purveyor of reptile-human hybrid theories. im good 
Please provide any evidence that he is a holocaust denier. I want a video or quote where he explicitly denies the holocaust.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: koods]
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We don’t define concepts based upon what people think the definition is.
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Please provide any evidence that he is a holocaust denier. I want a video or quote where he explicitly denies the holocaust.
https://www.facebook.com/NSWJBD/posts/david-icke-has-called-for-holocaust-denial-to-be-taught-in-schools-and-has-actua/1484713021661462/
This article does not have any quotes of icke denying the holocaust.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: Loaded Shaman]
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Who is controlling the opposition? Sounds like using one conspiracy theory to explain away another one. The world doesn’t work like that.
Alex Jones doesn’t spew his garbage as part of some massive strategy to control the minds of people, and he’s not controlled by other actors attempting to discredit certain ideas. He’s just a bloviating storyteller who discovered that he can make a lot of money taking advantage of gullible people telling them ridiculous stories.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: longbus]
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When people read "hes a holocaust denier" they think it means he denied the holocaust
We don’t define concepts based upon what people think the definition is.
And where did u get tour definition?
https://www.ushmm.org/antisemitism/holocaust-denial-and-distortion
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Holocaust denial is any attempt to negate the established facts of the Nazi genocide of European Jews. Holocaust denial and distortion are forms of antisemitism, prejudice against or hatred of Jews. Holocaust denial and distortion generally claim that the Holocaust was invented or exaggerated by Jews as part of a plot to advance Jewish interests.
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Okay, but if yo read what he wrote all he is saying is that we should question the official narrative. He isnt outright denying the holocaust. He also quotes a guy who said there is no evidence they used dead jews to make soap.
That is hardly holocaust denial.
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I also want to go on record as saying holocaust denial is retarded.there is a lot of evidence for it. To the point it osnt even eevidence its just a fact, like snow bein cold.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: koods]
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Yeah I think they both have legit mental illnesses that they have harnessed to make money. Motivations aside I think Loaded Shaman is correct that the result is effectively a mental trap for people who want to feel like they are in the know about something others aren't, but are unable to identify good sources of information to learn anything actually worthwhile from.
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That is hardly holocaust denial.
That is exactly it. Outright denial isn’t required to be a holocaust denier. Saying the Nazis only killed two million Jews is holocaust denial. Saying the Jews weren’t murdered but died of starvation due to a lack of resources is holocaust denial. Saying concentration camps werent that bad because they had swimming pools is holocaust denial.
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But he isnt saying any of those things. Did you read what he wrote?
Sidenote: i am currently reading about the holocaust and holy shit thats some fucked up shit. I didnt know the extrnt of it really.
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The pools were nice. Had to take a shower first to use them though.
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Please provide any evidence that he is a holocaust denier. I want a video or quote where he explicitly denies the holocaust.
https://www.facebook.com/NSWJBD/posts/david-icke-has-called-for-holocaust-denial-to-be-taught-in-schools-and-has-actua/1484713021661462/
This article does not have any quotes of icke denying the holocaust.
Pick pick pick.
You're saying that him wanting the denial taught in schools is not proof that he's a denier himself?
Hella dissonance right there, brah.
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Nowhere in that article is icke quoted as saying that.
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Controlled opposition means Alex Jones or David Icke is being controlled by another party for some purpose.
I’m not saying that kind of thing doesn’t happen. The government took advantage of UFO hysteria to cover up secret weapons programs, for example. It’s a lot easier to test weird looking aircraft if people think those aircraft are really alien spaceships.
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Sidenote: i am currently reading about the holocaust and holy shit thats some fucked up shit. I didnt know the extrnt of it really.
Wow man. That's truly amazing to me. Having seen the camps upfront and read descriptions from those that were in them, I forget that there are people out there that don't know the horrors of the holocaust.
One look at machinery for processing bodies at Auschwitz and it instantly becomes clear the sheer number of people killed.
I'm out of this one.
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Controlled opposition means Alex Jones or David Icke is being controlled by another party for some purpose.
I’m not saying that kind of thing doesn’t happen. The government took advantage of UFO hysteria to cover up secret weapons programs, for example. It’s a lot easier to test weird looking aircraft if people think those aircraft are really alien spaceships.
This is literally all I'm saying when I use that term; I'm never implying there's an actual conspiracy.
These people make their own strawmans then sell them to one another via lectures and books, as you said above. It's the perfect feedback loop to milk cash from people that are bored with their own lives and "want more'.
If there WAS a conspiracy, how the fuck would you know, especially via listening to Icke or Jones?
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: koods]
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Controlled opposition means Alex Jones or David Icke is being controlled by another party for some purpose.
I’m not saying that kind of thing doesn’t happen. The government took advantage of UFO hysteria to cover up secret weapons programs, for example. It’s a lot easier to test weird looking aircraft if people think those aircraft are really alien spaceships.
Yeah I don't think either of them is under anyone else's control as far as suppressing the real truth in some way. I picture Jones having handlers who steer him away from raging out on innocent bystanders in day to day life though.
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Sidenote: i am currently reading about the holocaust and holy shit thats some fucked up shit. I didnt know the extrnt of it really.
Wow man. That's truly amazing to me. Having seen the camps upfront and read descriptions from those that were in them, I forget that there are people out there that don't know the horrors of the holocaust.
One look at machinery for processing bodies at Auschwitz and it instantly becomes clear the sheer number of people killed.
I'm out of this one.
No i mean i know that 6 million jews died and that there was extreme suffering, but now i am reading the details and it is really bad. Like the death marches and stuff.
They dont teach these specifics in history class and i have always been more interested in ww1
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Controlled opposition means Alex Jones or David Icke is being controlled by another party for some purpose.
I’m not saying that kind of thing doesn’t happen. The government took advantage of UFO hysteria to cover up secret weapons programs, for example. It’s a lot easier to test weird looking aircraft if people think those aircraft are really alien spaceships.
This is literally all I'm saying when I use that term; I'm never implying there's an actual conspiracy.
These people make their own strawmans then sell them to one another via lectures and books, as you said above. It's the perfect feedback loop to milk cash from people that are bored with their own lives and "want more'.
If there WAS a conspiracy, how the fuck would you know, especially via listening to Icke or Jones?
I think I'm in line with your take. I don't believe Icke or Jones or their ilk are in anyway government directed or part of a cabal, just more in a long line of unscrupulous opportunists, but they do have the effect -beneficial for the system at large and derailing valid opposition- of leading potentially class conscious people's awareness away from real problems and giving them psychotic fantasy worlds to worry about. I don't think this is directed in any way, just one among many unhappy accidents
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Controlled opposition means Alex Jones or David Icke is being controlled by another party for some purpose.
I’m not saying that kind of thing doesn’t happen. The government took advantage of UFO hysteria to cover up secret weapons programs, for example. It’s a lot easier to test weird looking aircraft if people think those aircraft are really alien spaceships.
This is literally all I'm saying when I use that term; I'm never implying there's an actual conspiracy.
These people make their own strawmans then sell them to one another via lectures and books, as you said above. It's the perfect feedback loop to milk cash from people that are bored with their own lives and "want more'.
If there WAS a conspiracy, how the fuck would you know, especially via listening to Icke or Jones?
Honestly i just find it entertaining to take massive doses of acid and mdma and watch david icke.
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I learned everything i need to know aboit reality already smoking shitloads of dmt.
All this human shit really doesnt matter at the end of the day, all that matters is yur own experience and gaining as much knowledge as you can and creating as much new shit in reality as possible.
The conspiracy is just a distraction from self enlightenment.
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Experience, knowledge and ability to create are all deeply influenced by the human shit though.
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Controlled opposition means Alex Jones or David Icke is being controlled by another party for some purpose.
I’m not saying that kind of thing doesn’t happen. The government took advantage of UFO hysteria to cover up secret weapons programs, for example. It’s a lot easier to test weird looking aircraft if people think those aircraft are really alien spaceships.
This is literally all I'm saying when I use that term; I'm never implying there's an actual conspiracy.
These people make their own strawmans then sell them to one another via lectures and books, as you said above. It's the perfect feedback loop to milk cash from people that are bored with their own lives and "want more'.
If there WAS a conspiracy, how the fuck would you know, especially via listening to Icke or Jones?
I think I'm in line with your take. I don't believe Icke or Jones or their ilk are in anyway government directed or part of a cabal, just more in a long line of unscrupulous opportunists, but they do have the effect -beneficial for the system at large and derailing valid opposition- of leading potentially class conscious people's awareness away from real problems and giving them psychotic fantasy worlds to worry about. I don't think this is directed in any way, just one among many unhappy accidents
Correct. Opportunist is the perfect term. They're taking advantage of people not having answers, by pretending to have those very answers, lol. $$$!!!
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: PatrickKn]
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At the end of the day if shit gets really bad you could run to the woods and meditate yourself to death. That would be a novel experience in which yu would learn much and contribute deeply to the collective consciousness.
And by that i mean survive as long as you can free from society.
Society is getting really bad so it might be good to have a back up plan.
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Our own mind is a universe in itself, and every thought and imagination is just as tangiblr cosmically as our real life interactions. I can explore my mind forever and contribute more to the collective consciousness than anyone who has ever spent their whole life in "reality"
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How've you gone so long, and not known the story of the holocaust? You're over 40 years old, right?
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its entertaining to know you think you are on some different level of existence because you watched a couple youtube videos.
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its entertaining to know you think you are on some different level of existence because you watched a couple youtube videos.
that's basically the case with every crank I know, some people just can't handle the internet
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I will agree that it is entertaining to watch Icke for a day or two and think of things from that crazy perspective. But I don't know who is crazier, those who actually believe him to be some prophet or himself..
Saturn was a mindcontrol device from the aliens or was it just projecting unto the moon that then projects unto us? Wait a minute, that explains all the myths about werewolves during full moon and animals being restless in full moonlight and everythinng.. He is onto something!
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: Ezuma]
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i had to cut ties with my friend ive known well for almost 30 years because he started regurgitating all the reptile-hybrid, flat earth stuff he learned on youtube. sad to see someone i care about lose their grip on reality and really believe there are mole-men-reptiles living underground puppeteering the strings of "society".
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ya that's a hard one to abide I work in a crystal store so I get a lot of conversations with crazies, 'shaman's, 'witches' etc, and most of them get their worldview wholesale off of youtube
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How've you gone so long, and not known the story of the holocaust? You're over 40 years old, right?
No i am not.
What is it with u guys? I knew about the holocaust but nwver really read the details. What i am saying is that the details ae shocking even for someone who knew the general jist.
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its entertaining to know you think you are on some different level of existence because you watched a couple youtube videos.
This has nothing to do with youtube. I am talking about dmt.
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smokin dmt a few times doesnt give you super powers. youre not any more enlightened than the rest of us. in fact, id say youre a little less so because of youre ignorance towards the holocaust and putting faith into david icke. id bet there are many historical events that you're not aware of. but lizard people, sure, theyre totally real.
im glad his name is such because thats how i feel when i hear anyone say batshit crazy stuff.. "icke... gross.."
sorry if im being hard on you. its tough love and i care about you friend. but please, lay off the youtubez
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ya that's a hard one to abide I work in a crystal store so I get a lot of conversations with crazies, 'shaman's, 'witches' etc, and most of them get their worldview wholesale off of youtube
dude lol i can imagine all the "spiritual gurus" that must come in and out of that place. im all for spirituality and the powers of positive thinking.. i just get very turned off when someone thinks they found the one true way and walks around like their shit doesnt stink anymore.
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im glad his name is such because thats how i feel when i hear anyone say batshit crazy stuff.. "icke... gross.."
sorry if im being hard on you. its tough love and i care about you friend. but please, lay off the youtubez
I dont believe in lizard people, i just like getting high and watching david icke
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I guess irony and sarcasm are hard to convey in text form.
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its entertaining to know you think you are on some different level of existence because you watched a couple youtube videos.
that's basically the case with every crank I know, some people just can't handle the internet
That's precisely the psychology behind conspiracy theories, my friends.
People are rightly skeptical of the mainstream/status quo narrative, but don't apply even 1/8 the same level of skepticism to alternative information they find, lol.
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#27143067 - 01/12/21 01:46 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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people believe lies that have been carefully forged into a narrative that sounds almost plausible, but upon simple cross checking and closer examination, they still believe.
Conclusion: The unknowns of the world are too scary and intimidating for them, thus they resort to conspiracy theories in the hope of making reality make sense. Really all they are doing is dulling, diminishing and erasing any ability to reason, thus making the conspiracy theories a self-fulfilling prophecy to them.
Also: suckers, ones born every minute.
-------------------- The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Brenard Shaw
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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: Ice9]
#27143109 - 01/12/21 03:02 AM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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Except none of the shit sounds remotely plausible. Nearly every conspiracy theory popular today just falls apart if you spend a moment thinking about it rationally. Grand conspiracies are simply not possible the way people imagine. Some of the shit is inherently contradictory, like vaccines are population control. People can’t accept that a lot of life is just random. Shit happens.
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NotSheekle said “if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”
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