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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: longbus] * 1
    #27141054 - 01/10/21 11:53 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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So you dont believe anything he says?




Do you? Which part of his data is correct? Which isn't? How would you know if your only source is Icke?


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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27141055 - 01/10/21 11:53 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Yeah they will both intermesh some stuff that is fairly sensible in with other stuff that is complete lunacy.


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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: psi] * 1
    #27141057 - 01/10/21 11:54 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Holocaust denial doesn’t necessarily mean a belief the holocaust didn’t occur. It also encompasses a belief the “official story” is false, that maybe not that many Jews were killed or the perpetrators were not the Nazis. Holocaust denial is questioning the historical fact that six million Jews were murdered by the Nazi.


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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: koods] * 2
    #27141058 - 01/10/21 11:55 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

The thing with Icke is he could say a massive truth in plain sight but then he will make a ridiculous claim that makes what is true seem equally as retarded, and people don't know the difference.

That's precisely his job.


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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27141059 - 01/10/21 11:56 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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David Icke is 100% controlled opposition to make average IQ people feel like they're woke AF while still supporting the actual system that oppresses them, just with slightly more comfort and delusion.

Same with Alex Jones.

Honey pot artists meant to suck in neophytes that don't know any better, but will brigade and parrot information and create entire bullshit narratives that only mislead and muddy the waters...which is exactly the purpose of Icke and Jones.

There's your real conspiracy.

I've seen every Icke lecture and I own every single book that guy has published, btw, so I'm not just phrasing with no context here. I've studied him and the likes of him for years, he's absolutely controlled opposition.




Or maybe he’s just a mentally imbalanced idiot, who figured out he could sell books to other idiots and make some money.

Controlled opposition 🤦‍♂️

What the fuck is happening to this country.


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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27141060 - 01/10/21 11:56 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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So you dont believe anything he says?




Do you? Which part of his data is correct? Which isn't? How would you know if your only source is Icke?




Well i believe the part about a global elite who control world events for their own benefit.

I also disagree with a lot of what he says. Like saying climate change isnt real for instance.

I believe he has the right general idea about a lot but disagree with some of the specifics.


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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: koods] * 1
    #27141064 - 01/10/21 11:58 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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Holocaust denial doesn’t mean a belief the holocaust didn’t occur. It also encompasses a belief the “official story” is false, that maybe not that many Jews were killed or the perpetrators were not the Nazis. Holocaust denial is questioning the historical fact that six million Jews were murdered by the Nazi.




Oh stfu.

When people read "hes a holocaust denier" they think it means he denied the holocaust. I dont care what bullshit definiion you have to give it to suit your argument.

There is nothing wrong with questioning official naratives. The government lies all the time.


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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27141065 - 01/10/21 11:59 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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The thing with Icke is he could say a massive truth in plain sight but then he will make a ridiculous claim that makes what is true seem equally as retarded, and people don't know the difference.

That's precisely his job.




Ya but its up to me to sift through the bullshit.


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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: longbus]
    #27141067 - 01/11/21 12:03 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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When people read "hes a holocaust denier" they think it means he denied the holocaust




We don’t define concepts based upon what people think the definition is.


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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: longbus]
    #27141068 - 01/11/21 12:03 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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David Icke is 100% controlled opposition to make average IQ people feel like they're woke AF while still supporting the actual system that oppresses them, just with slightly more comfort and delusion.

Same with Alex Jones.

Honey pot artists meant to suck in neophytes that don't know any better, but will brigade and parrot information and create entire bullshit narratives that only mislead and muddy the waters...which is exactly the purpose of Icke and Jones.

There's your real conspiracy.

I've seen every Icke lecture and I own every single book that guy has published, btw, so I'm not just phrasing with no context here. I've studied him and the likes of him for years, he's absolutely controlled opposition.




Or maybe he’s just a mentally imbalanced idiot, who figured out he could sell books to other idiots and make some money.

Controlled opposition 🤦‍♂️

What the fuck is happening to this country.




That's exactly what controlled opposition is; a trap for idiots that think they have information packed with integrity that everybody else "just isn't seeing".

See the majority of conspiracy theory threads on this board or reddit, or anywhere.

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So you dont believe anything he says?




Do you? Which part of his data is correct? Which isn't? How would you know if your only source is Icke?




Well i believe the part about a global elite who control world events for their own benefit.

I also disagree with a lot of what he says. Like saying climate change isnt real for instance.

I believe he has the right general idea about a lot but disagree with some of the specifics.




General elite corruption has been the theory since day 1, so that's nothing new. This guy claims there are lizards inside a hollow moon, which is actually a space ship, mind controlling people. It doesn't matter how accurate he may or may not be about the elite with a claim like that, which is designed to get you to throw the baby out with the bath water, and then ignore the claims which are actually true when you see them again down the line, because crazy lizard moon man was saying the same shit.

It's pure psychology, which also doesn't surprise me as why most don't understand that TBH, because psychology.

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The thing with Icke is he could say a massive truth in plain sight but then he will make a ridiculous claim that makes what is true seem equally as retarded, and people don't know the difference.

That's precisely his job.




Ya but its up to me to sift through the bullshit.




Best of luck. I hope you have a reliable method for investigating claims that don't contradict.


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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: longbus]
    #27141069 - 01/11/21 12:04 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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holocaust denier and purveyor of reptile-human hybrid theories. im good :cool:




Please provide any evidence that he is a holocaust denier. I want a video or quote where he explicitly denies the holocaust.



https://www.facebook.com/NSWJBD/posts/david-icke-has-called-for-holocaust-denial-to-be-taught-in-schools-and-has-actua/1484713021661462/


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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: koods]
    #27141071 - 01/11/21 12:06 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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When people read "hes a holocaust denier" they think it means he denied the holocaust




We don’t define concepts based upon what people think the definition is.




And where did u get tour definition?


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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #27141073 - 01/11/21 12:08 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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longbus said:
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split_by_nine said:
holocaust denier and purveyor of reptile-human hybrid theories. im good :cool:




Please provide any evidence that he is a holocaust denier. I want a video or quote where he explicitly denies the holocaust.



https://www.facebook.com/NSWJBD/posts/david-icke-has-called-for-holocaust-denial-to-be-taught-in-schools-and-has-actua/1484713021661462/




This article does not have any quotes of icke denying the holocaust.


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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27141075 - 01/11/21 12:11 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Who is controlling the opposition? Sounds like using one conspiracy theory to explain away another one. The world doesn’t work like that.

Alex Jones doesn’t spew his garbage as part of some massive strategy to control the minds of people, and he’s not controlled by other actors attempting to discredit certain ideas. He’s just a bloviating storyteller who discovered that he can make a lot of money taking advantage of gullible people telling them ridiculous stories.


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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: longbus]
    #27141077 - 01/11/21 12:15 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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When people read "hes a holocaust denier" they think it means he denied the holocaust




We don’t define concepts based upon what people think the definition is.




And where did u get tour definition?




https://www.ushmm.org/antisemitism/holocaust-denial-and-distortion

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Holocaust denial is any attempt to negate the established facts of the Nazi genocide of European Jews. Holocaust denial and distortion are forms of antisemitism, prejudice against or hatred of Jews. Holocaust denial and distortion generally claim that the Holocaust was invented or exaggerated by Jews as part of a plot to advance Jewish interests.





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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: koods]
    #27141081 - 01/11/21 12:17 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Okay, but if yo read what he wrote all he is saying is that we should question the official narrative. He isnt outright denying the holocaust. He also quotes a guy who said there is no evidence they used dead jews to make soap.

That is hardly holocaust denial.


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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: longbus]
    #27141082 - 01/11/21 12:19 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

I also want to go on record as saying holocaust denial is retarded.there is a lot of evidence for it. To the point it osnt even eevidence its just a fact, like snow bein cold.


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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: koods]
    #27141085 - 01/11/21 12:23 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Yeah I think they both have legit mental illnesses that they have harnessed to make money. Motivations aside I think Loaded Shaman is correct that the result is effectively a mental trap for people who want to feel like they are in the know about something others aren't, but are unable to identify good sources of information to learn anything actually worthwhile from.


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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: longbus] * 1
    #27141087 - 01/11/21 12:25 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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Okay, but if yo read what he wrote all he is saying is that we should question the official narrative. He isnt outright denying the holocaust. He also quotes a guy who said there is no evidence they used dead jews to make soap.

That is hardly holocaust denial.




That is exactly it. Outright denial isn’t required to be a holocaust denier. Saying the Nazis only killed two million Jews is holocaust denial. Saying the Jews weren’t murdered but died of starvation due to a lack of resources is holocaust denial. Saying concentration camps werent that bad because they had swimming pools is holocaust denial.


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Re: Everybody needs to watch this, it explains EVERYTHING (especially covid) [Re: koods] * 1
    #27141090 - 01/11/21 12:27 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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Alex Jones doesn’t spew his garbage as part of some massive strategy to control the minds of people, and he’s not controlled by other actors attempting to discredit certain ideas. He’s just a bloviating storyteller who discovered that he can make a lot of money taking advantage of gullible people telling them ridiculous stories.




Exactly.


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