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G2G Jar Possible Contam - Looks Like Mold :(
    #27139165 - 01/10/21 08:10 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Been getting plenty of trich before the first flush lately.  Thinking it may be my jars as I've been getting a large number of jars that look like this.  Generally appears to be thick myc attached to single grains, with light, weak wispy looking "myc?" in the background.

Thoughts?  Anyone seen these before?



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Re: G2G Jar Possible Contam - Your Thoughts [Re: benis12]
    #27139175 - 01/10/21 08:18 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

That's really strange. Doesn't look like healthy myc to me. What are you inoculating your jars with, LC or spore syringe?

It doesn't look like trichoderma, though. I would guess you've either got some weird mold growing alongside your cubes on the grain, or it's just really weak mycelium that's being taken over by trich once you spawn it. Do your grain jars have holes for FAE?


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Re: G2G Jar Possible Contam - Your Thoughts [Re: benis12]
    #27139176 - 01/10/21 08:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

There's two different things growing in those jars which is a dead giveaway they're bad.


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Re: G2G Jar Possible Contam - Your Thoughts [Re: joze]
    #27139181 - 01/10/21 08:22 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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That's really strange. Doesn't look like healthy myc to me. What are you inoculating your jars with, LC or spore syringe?

It doesn't look like trichoderma, though. I would guess you've either got some weird mold growing alongside your cubes on the grain, or it's just really weak mycelium that's being taken over by trich once you spawn it. Do your grain jars have holes for FAE?




I know! I've never seen anything like it in my 6 years of cultivation.  My guess is that it's something inside the jar that's weakening the myc that is then being taken over by trich once spawned in the tubs.

More wondering if anyone else had seen this exact thing before, as it's new to me but so pervasive in my current grows.

Jars were g2g from agar wedge masters, and all jars have small mycofilter hole on top.


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Re: G2G Jar Possible Contam - Your Thoughts [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27139182 - 01/10/21 08:23 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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There's two different things growing in those jars which is a dead giveaway they're bad.




That's my thinking.  Ever seen this specific condition before?  Wondering if it can be identified.


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Re: G2G Jar Possible Contam - Your Thoughts [Re: benis12]
    #27139186 - 01/10/21 08:25 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Yes I've seen contamination before. It's mold in this case


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Re: G2G Jar Possible Contam - Your Thoughts [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27139189 - 01/10/21 08:28 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

If you take the lids off those jars they'll turn green in a few days. You could put the spores on a slide and look at them with a microscope if you want a genus level identification.


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Re: G2G Jar Possible Contam - Your Thoughts [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27139258 - 01/10/21 09:02 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

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If you take the lids off those jars they'll turn green in a few days. You could put the spores on a slide and look at them with a microscope if you want a genus level identification.




So is this light wispy mycelium what trichoderma looks like before it gets more FAE?


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Re: G2G Jar Possible Contam - Your Thoughts [Re: joze]
    #27139351 - 01/10/21 09:41 AM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Toss em.. start over !


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Re: G2G Jar Possible Contam - Your Thoughts [Re: growguru]
    #27154905 - 01/18/21 08:14 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Well, I've got the looming suspicion that this greyish colored mold has infected every jar.  What do ya'll think?  This is the most frustrating contam I've ever dealt with because it resembles myc so much, especially to the naked eye. To my eye, the photos actually do a better job of showing that there are two different things growing in the jar.  In person, it looks much more unified and tends to make me think..."maybe there's a chance!"  But I'm pretty sure spawning these would just lead to more heartache and wasted time/resources.

These pics are of three different cultures.  One is an agar wedge Master jar, the other are g2g jars of different clones.  Sigh...observations appreciated.



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Re: G2G Jar Possible Contam - Your Thoughts [Re: benis12]
    #27155037 - 01/18/21 09:38 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

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Well, I've got the looming suspicion that this greyish colored mold has infected every jar.  What do ya'll think?  This is the most frustrating contam I've ever dealt with because it resembles myc so much, especially to the naked eye. To my eye, the photos actually do a better job of showing that there are two different things growing in the jar.  In person, it looks much more unified and tends to make me think..."maybe there's a chance!"  But I'm pretty sure spawning these would just lead to more heartache and wasted time/resources.

These pics are of three different cultures.  One is an agar wedge Master jar, the other are g2g jars of different clones.  Sigh...observations appreciated.






Hope someone with a more discerning eye pops in, curious what they'd say. I'd say the first looks the best. If it smells good, I'd spawn or G2G it. Remember you can shake test them too prior to spawning.


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Re: G2G Jar Possible Contam - Your Thoughts [Re: junk_f00d]
    #27155120 - 01/18/21 10:35 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Yeah, I hope so too.

Appreciate your words.  These are all taken after a test shake.  I shake test every jar and have never had this specific type of mold.

The idea of the sniff-test and spawn was appealing to me, too. Then I lost roughly 25 tubs to trich and was only able to get some meager yields out of about five.  Now, I'm hesitant to waste those kind of resources on what is seeming to be a crapshoot.

Never been more frustrated than I am now!  :smile:


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Re: G2G Jar Possible Contam - Your Thoughts [Re: benis12]
    #27158919 - 01/20/21 07:58 AM (3 years, 26 days ago)

Giving this a little bump to see if I spawn the healthiest jars that look like the photos above, if this type of mold is going to infect my growspace?

I know when I see trich to always remove from the room, but I'm wondering if the same goes for these jars with a bit of this wispy, greyish tough-to-see mold.


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