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AquaticPuzzle
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Indoor Kratom 1
#27136755 - 01/09/21 02:44 AM (3 years, 19 days ago) |
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I have been growing a Kratom tree for a couple years now. Every winner we bring it in door. She loses a bunch of leaves and pretty much stops growing.This will be her fourth year in door and I'm afraid she's not going to make it this year. I'm going to buy a 42 Watt CFL bulb and hanging above her and see if that'll keep her alive what do you think?






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AquaticPuzzle
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No advice!?
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Nelane
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To be honest I have no idea what could be done. I was told Kratos is next to impossible to grow in the states. I am genuinely impressed that you are pulling it off somewhat. I use Kratosm for back and knee pain, and to be honest this post motivated me to look into growing it as well. Sorry I couldn't offer anything towards the problem at hand.
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karode13
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I've grown kratom outdoors for many years and in my Winters they go dormant and drop all their leaves.
In the Spring, when warm weather returns new buds form and the tree grows new leaves.
I grew a plant like this in a pot for over several years. It only died due to a fungal trunk infection.
I don't see anything wrong with this plant. It looks healthy.
It's just dropped its leaves due to the colder weather. It will lay dormant until warmer weather returns.
I wouldn't bother with any lighting unless you're trying to grow foliage.
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There's no secret. You ingest an amount and you feel the effects.
If you're getting lit on green tea then it's probably safe to say that your kratom is bunk.
Might pay to seek out another strain....
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Allium
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Re: Indoor Kratom [Re: karode13] 1
#27151388 - 01/16/21 12:14 PM (3 years, 12 days ago) |
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I grew out a huge hirsuta in a 40 gallon pot. It got so big that I had to constantly cut it back.
Anyway, I never got anything off of mine either and I tried massive amounts too!
I wonder if environments conditions have an effect on whether you plant will be "active" or not
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Re: Indoor Kratom [Re: Allium] 1
#27152327 - 01/16/21 10:12 PM (3 years, 11 days ago) |
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There is an informal rule, in which the root system of a tree is supposed to mirror the crown, and advice to the effect of planting kratom in a wide, shallow container.
Firstly, the top should probably look so sprawling and leggy.
But, it probably needs more foot room.
Secondly, my tropicals lose vigor, unless I keep them warmer than I want to feel.
A special room or enclosure or microclimate should have provided extra heat, before it went into shock.
But, I am actually encouraged to see them taking damage, here, and in other places, online. You're telling us, it's done this before. It is cold tolerant, if not cold hardy. The situation is hopeful.
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I think the loss of leaves on any plants is to be expected. All my plants lose volume when moved indoors, (though I do not grow Kratom.) I'd recommend not expecting too much growth through the winter (some plants stay stagnant, or grow very little) getting it as much light as possible and trimming it up just before or just after moving it indoors.
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Also, very important advice- Take Alliums advice. This guy is Dr. Green Thumb.
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Re: Indoor Kratom [Re: STPLSD25] 1
#27157108 - 01/19/21 09:50 AM (3 years, 9 days ago) |
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I've considered adding some kratom to my grow room. I'd probably just use the same organic soil mix as I use for my cannabis plants, and grow them under LED lights with some near-uv added into the spectrum.
Search for vapor pressure deficit charts and try to follow them.
Also, try to dial in the 9 cardinal parameters;
Light, temperature, humidity, wind, and co2 above the surface, and temperature, water, nutrients, and o2 below the surface.
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You know, I think it does matter how you grow Krtaom if you want it to have potency, and although my tree was huge and pristine, I most likely did something wrong, and that is why mine offered no effects. And I did massive doses that could have killed me too, to no avail.
https://kratomaton.com/news/soil-quality-could-alter-kratoms-effects-potency/
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Re: Indoor Kratom [Re: Allium]
#27158526 - 01/19/21 11:26 PM (3 years, 8 days ago) |
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looks ready for a bigger pot
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Re: Indoor Kratom [Re: Allium]
#27160226 - 01/20/21 07:30 PM (3 years, 8 days ago) |
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Quote:
Allium said: You know, I think it does matter how you grow Krtaom if you want it to have potency, and although my tree was huge and pristine, I most likely did something wrong, and that is why mine offered no effects. And I did massive doses that could have killed me too, to no avail.
https://kratomaton.com/news/soil-quality-could-alter-kratoms-effects-potency/
Genetics have more to do with this than nutrients. Even if a plant is fed poorly it should still be active.
A dose large enough to kill you should have produced something. I've never heard of a cutting grown elsewhere to be not active.
Different species, cultivars, etc will all vary in strength. I've noticed a difference in the few species I've tried that have been home grown.
I've never touched commercial kratom and the home grown stuff is good from my experience.
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Allium
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Quote:
karode13 said:
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Allium said: You know, I think it does matter how you grow Krtaom if you want it to have potency, and although my tree was huge and pristine, I most likely did something wrong, and that is why mine offered no effects. And I did massive doses that could have killed me too, to no avail.
https://kratomaton.com/news/soil-quality-could-alter-kratoms-effects-potency/
Genetics have more to do with this than nutrients. Even if a plant is fed poorly it should still be active.
A dose large enough to kill you should have produced something. I've never heard of a cutting grown elsewhere to be not active.
Different species, cultivars, etc will all vary in strength. I've noticed a difference in the few species I've tried that have been home grown.
I've never touched commercial kratom and the home grown stuff is good from my experience.
The thing is, I got it from a reputable guy,and all his plants are magnificent and indeed active he claims.
I wish I still had a picture of mine it was pristine and it got as tall as the eve of my outdoor shed, which is a bit taller than I am and I'm 6 foot.
I babied the heck out of that plant too, and treated it like it was my own child, but it just was not active for some reason plain and simple. I reckon I'll just never know why.
Anyway, I left the tree out to freeze, because it was just too big to keep lugging in and out for the seasons. Normally, that would have made me mad to waste such a beautiful Tree, but I didn't have it too long, and it put on that much growth in only one season. That really made it easier to do opposed to me having it for several seasons.
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