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 Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism  [Re: koods]
#27138812 - 01/09/21 11:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I support free speech, and I also support a website monitoring its content. This is nothing new, the news outlets can twist their reporting however they like to suit their followers. I hate Facebook and I’ve never been on Twitter, but neither one is the only way for expression. If Twitter or Facebook censors you or any certain group of people, that just opens up an opportunity for someone else to come up with another social media platform that better suits them and others. If people don’t like FB or Twitter, they should quit using it and an alternative will come along and fill in the gap. FB and Twitter would take a big loss and somebody else would get rich. That’s the beauty of capitalism.
Same thing goes with the age old story of the baker refusing to make wedding cakes for gay weddings. He doesn’t have to conform, and after all of that I wouldn’t even want him to bake a cake unless I wanted it to look like a penis and everybody that eats it to get diarrhea. His refusal to bake the cake just opened up a world of opportunity for other bakers that would happily bake cakes for gay weddings, and advertise as such.
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Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism [Re: koods]
#27138815 - 01/09/21 11:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism [Re: split_by_nine]
#27138855 - 01/10/21 12:48 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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too be honest, i think most people should be banned from twitter. its just a bunch of garbage posts and adverts.
Spitting some hard truths right there. I don't think I'd describe Twitter as a positive development for humanity.
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Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
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Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism [Re: Lynnch] 4
#27138875 - 01/10/21 01:14 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lynnch said:
Playing a semantic game doesn't prove your point.
"He said they should walk to the capitol, not break in! Aha! Gotcha! He is absolved!"
No.
He has been radicalizing people for months with lies about a stolen election (years even if you consider the lies about the 2016 election.)
He spoke to the crowd, said he would be with them- tacitly endorsing whatever was planned.
That crowd marched to the capitol.
A woman in that crowd -wrapped in a flag with his name on it- died trying to break in to a secure area For. Him.
Pretending to not see how these things are connected is just dishonest.
At this point, can any of us really expect Falcon to be intellectually honest on the forums? He consistently uses all sorts of dishonest rhetorical tactics whenever someone says something he doesn't like (his most predictable behavior pattern is deflecting just about any criticism of Donald Trump's actions). When you call him out on it, he'll literally call you a "poopoo head" and throw a temper tantrum, complaining about how everyone is ganging up on him. One time, when he was in the hot seat up against multiple other forum users, I even saw him create a poll in a thread asking who the most dishonest user on the forum was, hoping that people would vote for koods or some of his other regular adversaries over him. That's like some middle school shit right there.
The main thing that continues to surprise me about Falcon is his incredibly fragile ego. If you argue with him long enough, you will always get to a point where you realize that he doesn't really care about the truth, or about having a fruitful discussion, or about exchanging interesting ideas. What he really cares about is "being right." What he really cares about is "winning the argument." It's so ego-centric and kind of cringy to behold sometimes.
Sadly, I think this ego problem of his is just a piece in a much larger puzzle. Indeed, our entire society is suffering from a similar ego problem, and I don't know how much more progress we'll be able to make so long as that problem persists.
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Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
#27138987 - 01/10/21 04:00 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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It must be hard to be wrong all the time 
I think if he spent less time making every argument about him, he might have a better time.
But I'm glad he's around. Arguing with pris, zappa, and luvdem got old
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Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 2
#27139020 - 01/10/21 04:42 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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But he suggested it as a possible cure...
Not really. He asked if it might be possible to use as a cure.
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...and he knows full well that some of his followers are completing lacking in judgment.
Some are, but I think the stupidity of drinking bleach from Trump asking a question is beyond anything Trump should be responsible for.
Are you honestly going to argue the semantic difference between "suggested it as a possible cure" and "and "He asked if it might be possible to use as a cure" when everyone knows that right afterwords morons in many areas of the country were promptly drinking bleach and disinfectants, which is documented by many poison control centers?
Obviously we're both talking about the bleach/disinfectants in relation to the attack on the Capital.
Personally I'm happy all this shit happened, because after the election, Trump or some other scumbag like him, could have arose in the GOP later. Not now. This bizarre moment in history is done. The GOP will have some of these nutjobs in congress but they will not nominate them for POTUS.
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Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism [Re: Brian Jones] 1
#27139124 - 01/10/21 07:27 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Some are, but I think the stupidity of drinking bleach from Trump asking a question is beyond anything Trump should be responsible for.
So are you saying Trump's words in his capacity as the President have nothing to do with influencing people or events?... what exactly are you trying to say Falcon?
What about Guiliani's behaviour at Trump's rally asking for trial by combat?
or
Ivanka Trump calling the rioters patriots?
or
Eric Trump threatening senators and congressmen?
That's Team Trump engaging in politics, they're not in the local bar talking shit, they aren't discussing football...
Is it ok that these high profile people blurt out this rubbish with no idea where it might lead? With no consequences? Is that what you're saying?
A mob arrived with a noose for Mike Pence because of the words delivered by Team Trump.
At what point do they need to take responsibility for their words? And who should it be? The janitor? What about the tea lady?
Here's a crazy idea, how'bout the people in charge?
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Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#27139216 - 01/10/21 08:45 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Are you allowed to yell "fire!" in a crowded theater? No.
No, and you shouldn't be allowed to do that.
I'll say it again since you seem to have missed it:
I totally agree calls to violence should be banned.
I'm ok with banning speech that actively incites violence
I'm ok with censoring calls to violence
Hi Falcon, my boy!
You don't see what Trump did as a call to violence?
Hey wooof! Welcome back, it's great to see you again!!! I really missed you here. You were one of the smart ones who predicted the Russia hoax and other such nonsense.
I asked anyone to post what Trump said that called for a coup, and the best people could come up with was he called for a protest at the capitol. Maybe you can show me how Trump called for a violent takeover? At least something more obvious than what HamHead posted, which nobody seemed too concerned about:
I suppose it is true that Trump didn't directly call for violence, but he called for a violent group to get involved in Washington politics, which is essentially calling for violence, in my book. I have heard that he was quite supportive of what they were doing as it was happening. He didn't use the national guard and try to stop it from going down the way it did.
Anyway, I'm a bit out of the loop on a lot of things these days. I hope you are well, friend.
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Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
#27139708 - 01/10/21 12:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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At this point, can any of us really expect Falcon to be intellectually honest on the forums? He consistently uses all sorts of dishonest rhetorical tactics whenever someone says something he doesn't like (his most predictable behavior pattern is deflecting just about any criticism of Donald Trump's actions).
Can you please link to an example? I keep asking for this over and over again, and I always get crickets.
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When you call him out on it, he'll literally call you a "poopoo head" and throw a temper tantrum, complaining about how everyone is ganging up on him.
No, I complain that other people are essentially calling me a poo poo head. Like you're doing right now. You've hurled a lot of insults, but you haven't backed them up with examples. Why don't you link to a post of mine to show me what you're talking about? I'll bet I'm met with crickets, as usual, or you'll use another "no I won't, because you're a poo poo head" type of excuse.
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One time, when he was in the hot seat up against multiple other forum users, I even saw him create a poll in a thread asking who the most dishonest user on the forum was, hoping that people would vote for koods or some of his other regular adversaries over him. That's like some middle school shit right there.
That was after another person called me the most dishonest poster here. I asked for a specific example, which as usual, no one was able to provide, and my poll showed people thought koods was the most dishonest. I can easily point to over 100 lies from koods on this forum. Yet people are always unable to point to posts of mine that are dishonest; they just claim I am without backing themselves up, as you're doing now. Can you post where I lied?
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The main thing that continues to surprise me about Falcon is his incredibly fragile ego.
I actually WANT constructive criticism. But what happens is people like you make post like this one, essentially calling me a poo poo head, without a single link to an example to back yourself up.
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If you argue with him long enough, you will always get to a point where you realize that he doesn't really care about the truth, or about having a fruitful discussion, or about exchanging interesting ideas. What he really cares about is "being right." What he really cares about is "winning the argument." It's so ego-centric and kind of cringy to behold sometimes.
Again, can you provide an example? What I see happening is the exact opposite - I point out other people's lack of evidence, and people get upset with me for not believing things like Trump-Russia collusion. That was the big item that turned some of the forum against me, even though Mueller said "ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities." People were upset that I was right after years of calling me a conspiracy nut for wanting evidence..
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Sadly, I think this ego problem of his is just a piece in a much larger puzzle. Indeed, our entire society is suffering from a similar ego problem, and I don't know how much more progress we'll be able to make so long as that problem persists.
Sadly, I think the problem is everyone believing what they want to believe, and not caring about the evidence to support their assertions, such as this very post of yours.
I look forward to your examples, but I'll expect excuses or crickets, like I always get. I WANT you to prove me wrong.
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Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism [Re: Lynnch]
#27139713 - 01/10/21 12:30 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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It must be hard to be wrong all the time
Maybe YOU can provide an example of what I've been wrong about? Pretty please?
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Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism [Re: Stable Genius]
#27139732 - 01/10/21 12:39 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Some are, but I think the stupidity of drinking bleach from Trump asking a question is beyond anything Trump should be responsible for.
So are you saying Trump's words in his capacity as the President have nothing to do with influencing people or events?... what exactly are you trying to say Falcon?
No, I'm absolutely NOT saying that. I'm saying a very small number of stupid people were influenced to drink bleach, and I'm saying they were so stupid that I don't think Trump should be held liable.
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What about Guiliani's behaviour at Trump's rally asking for trial by combat?
What about it? I already said "Maybe Giuliani's account should have been suspended?"
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or
Ivanka Trump calling the rioters patriots?
What about it?
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or
Eric Trump threatening senators and congressmen?
That's Team Trump engaging in politics, they're not in the local bar talking shit, they aren't discussing football...
Is it ok that these high profile people blurt out this rubbish with no idea where it might lead? With no consequences? Is that what you're saying?
A mob arrived with a noose for Mike Pence because of the words delivered by Team Trump.
At what point do they need to take responsibility for their words? And who should it be? The janitor? What about the tea lady?
Here's a crazy idea, how'bout the people in charge?
Why is that a crazy idea? It sounds reasonable to me. 
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Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#27139739 - 01/10/21 12:42 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I suppose it is true that Trump didn't directly call for violence, but he called for a violent group to get involved in Washington politics, which is essentially calling for violence, in my book.
I hear your argument. As I said to Stable Genius, we should hold people accountable. Perhaps those who actually organized the coup.
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Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 2
#27139769 - 01/10/21 12:55 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I look forward to your examples, but I'll expect excuses or crickets, like I always get.
A self-fulfilling prophecy.
There are two reasons I don't link to posts and point out specific logical fallacies you make.
1) Whenever anyone does, you either deny it or you use more logical fallacies to change the subject of the conversation so it looks like you were the one being reasonable all along.
2) It's not worth my time. I have wayyyyyy better things to be doing with my life than digging through all of your rhetoric. I hope that one acts as a bit of a wakeup call.
If this conversation is anything like the other ones I (and other forum users) have had with you, then I anticipate your next tactic will be to claim that my refusal to participate in your pointless rhetorical game is evidence that you aren't actually dishonest and that I (and everyone else who has called you dishonest in the past) are all just biased by our own worldviews.
Every discussion you participate in is extremely predictable. The only thing that surprises me at this point is your persistence.
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Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
#27139824 - 01/10/21 01:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nonagon Infinity said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I look forward to your examples, but I'll expect excuses or crickets, like I always get.
A self-fulfilling prophecy.
There are two reasons I don't link to posts and point out specific logical fallacies you make.
1) Whenever anyone does, you either deny it or you use more logical fallacies to change the subject of the conversation so it looks like you were the one being reasonable all along.
Can you link to an example, or is this just another "Fal's a big fat poo poo head" post?
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2) It's not worth my time. I have wayyyyyy better things to be doing with my life than digging through all of your rhetoric. I hope that one acts as a bit of a wakeup call.
If this conversation is anything like the other ones I (and other forum users) have had with you, then I anticipate your next tactic will be to claim that my refusal to participate in your pointless rhetorical game is evidence that you aren't actually dishonest and that I (and everyone else who has called you dishonest in the past) are all just biased by our own worldviews.
Every discussion you participate in is extremely predictable. The only thing that surprises me at this point is your persistence.
You're right. No one ever links to examples, just like you're not doing. Why would that not make me think I'm right?
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Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#27139833 - 01/10/21 01:19 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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We have dozens of times. You only use it to reargue your nonsense dishonestly and claim to be right again. It's an exercise in futility.
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Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism [Re: Enlil]
#27139836 - 01/10/21 01:22 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can you link to just one example of the "dozens" so I can see you're being honest?
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Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 3
#27139844 - 01/10/21 01:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I decline your request because it'll just lead where it always leads. You'll pretend you weren't wrong and reargue the same dishonest points. No thanks.
If there's a discussion about Russia or Trump, we all know where you stand before you even know the facts.
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Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism [Re: Enlil]
#27139869 - 01/10/21 01:36 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asking for evidence doesn't make me "wrong" about Russia and Trump.
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Re: Raphael Warnock’s own writings reveal his open support for Marxism [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#27139891 - 01/10/21 01:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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No but you repeatedly pickicking out subtle and effectively meaningless semantic irregularities definitely weakens your points. That's problem, you'd rather cherry pick a piece of language than answer with intellectually honest debate. I am not talking about Russia either, as I don't really have a horse in the race, but for the last 6 months or so (?) you have played these little games. Everybody is over it, and sure as hell, nobody wants to see a link from you to you.
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