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Good pinsets, small fruits
    #27135427 - 01/08/21 02:35 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

For months I've been having an issue with really small fruits across different varieties, yet the pinsets have generally been good, this is normally what they look like.



My GT and Cambodia results have been poor for all the cultures ive taken from one spore syringe. I'm agar plating least 5 healthy ms cultures from each syringe. Oddly with my older PESA cultures the fruits turn out a good size and my Melmacs are amazing, so this is leading me to believe that its genetics. I find it hard to believe that an entire spore syringe can yield poor results though, but maybe I'm wrong? Its terrible luck if that's the case. I have EQ and Mazatapec colonizing in tubs right now so my fingers are crossed those can break the trend.

I'm using 750g of coir hydrated with 3.7l of water, and this is very much at field capacity, so I believe I have ruled out the sub being under hydrated as an issue. The coir is a bit rough but it shouldn't be hurting my yields this badly. I'm gonna try a brick of canna coir in a side by side test to see what happens.


I also use 2 quarts of medium verm. I just fill jars up with verm and water, pasteurize, and then drain excess water from the jars before mixing with the coir. I use 2 quarts of sub for a casing layer at spawn.


Tubs 66qt Pasty EZ Dial. They are dialed in and the FAE is good. I've done about 80 tubs in total with this hobby so I have a pretty good grasp on that. Cultures are clean, jars and tubs colonize just fine. I've run out of ideas for what is going on with these grows other than really bad luck with poor genetics. I'd really appreciate some input on this though, maybe I'm missing something.


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Re: Good pinsets, small fruits [Re: Nibs]
    #27135467 - 01/08/21 02:56 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

It sounds like everything is a little dry. The standard for using coir is 650g to 3.7l water. The coarse coir may have something to do with field capacity, but considering mushrooms are 90+% water this is what I would look at first. As I understand it, genetics have less to do with fruit size than they do potency or pin set so I think you're alright there.

Also, casing is generally not necessary unless you're running PE or other phallic varieties. I would use a lower coir:water ratio (650g:3.7l) and likely leave the verm out. I'm still a total noob so I would wait for a TC to chime in, but that's my $0.02. Cheers!


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Re: Good pinsets, small fruits [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #27135484 - 01/08/21 03:04 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

I upped amount of water in my coir quite a bit, but that didn't change the results im getting. 3.7L per 750g is the absolute max i can saturate this coir that i use without risking it being over field capacity. The other reason I don't think FC is an issue is because my Melmac's do just fine with the same sub mix and ratios.


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