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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: chopstick] 2
#27135157 - 01/08/21 12:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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One of them killed a police officer with a fire extinguisher. How fucking stupid are you?
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: chopstick] 2
#27135158 - 01/08/21 12:21 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Less than lethal action could have been taken. Fuck that cop I say
Bullshit. The lethal action probably saved lives. If the cop had taken another action, there would have been 20 people through that window within seconds to harm that cop.
The chaos of the situation was created by the mob, not the police. This is the exact opposite of a traffic stop where the police create the encounter.
Enlil... can I ask you something?
Why is it that you lie so much?
You know damn well that not a single one of those protesters was going to do *any* physical harm to anybody in that capitol building.
Sure, there might have been a shouting match. But that's about it.
To suggest otherwise is simply hysteria. I suggest you stop contributing to it.

ya, sure, no reasonable expectation of violence when you see an armed angry mob trying to force their way into the capital building, should the dead cop feel surprised?
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: chopstick]
#27135159 - 01/08/21 12:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Trump supporters mob Lindsey Graham at National airport.
https://twitter.com/dlippman/status/1347612365093826565?s=21
As I predicted, most of these cultists no longer wearing their MAGA hats.
I’m starting to think that the Qanon contingent are more dangerous than the proud boys.
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: chopstick] 3
#27135165 - 01/08/21 12:23 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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chopstick said: You know damn well that not a single one of those protesters was going to do *any* physical harm to anybody in that capitol building.
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: psi]
#27135166 - 01/08/21 12:25 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Who knows. But we're talking about the unarmed woman who is now dead and not the guy playing dress up who didnt actually do anything despite a scary photo and is still alive.
Does he deserve to be arrested? Sure. But I'm not gonna pretend to know they planned on kidnapping senators. If something bigger happens after this I'll eat my words, but my original point stands. This woman didnt deserve to die for being brainwashed, but it's not like I can convince anyone otherwise
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: chopstick] 2
#27135173 - 01/08/21 12:26 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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You know damn well that not a single one of those protesters was going to do *any* physical harm to anybody in that capitol building.
Sure, there might have been a shouting match. But that's about it.
To suggest otherwise is simply hysteria. I suggest you stop contributing to it.
They did physical harm to people, though. Also, that isn't the test. What I think watching it on television is wholly irrelevant to the analysis. The only question is whether the officer, at the moment he fired, had a reasonable apprehension of serious bodily injury. I've watched the video. You've watched the video. Any reasonable person in that situation would have apprehension of imminent bodily harm. It's as clear as day.
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: natedawgnow] 1
#27135175 - 01/08/21 12:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Some of them stormed the senate chamber carrying hog ties intended for crowd control.
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods]
#27135178 - 01/08/21 12:28 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I saw the photo
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: natedawgnow] 2
#27135180 - 01/08/21 12:29 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Who knows. But we're talking about the unarmed woman who is now dead and not the guy playing dress up who didnt actually do anything despite a scary photo and is still alive.
Does he deserve to be arrested? Sure. But I'm not gonna pretend to know they planned on kidnapping senators. If something bigger happens after this I'll eat my words, but my original point stands. This woman didnt deserve to die for being brainwashed, but it's not like I can convince anyone otherwise
I wouldn't say she deserved to die, but when you're in the midst of a mob attempting to storm a guarded perimeter I really don't know why you wouldn't expect violence. If you believe there's any acceptable use of force, surely stopping coup attempts is one of those.
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: natedawgnow] 1
#27135181 - 01/08/21 12:29 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Who knows. But we're talking about the unarmed woman who is now dead and not the guy playing dress up who didnt actually do anything despite a scary photo and is still alive.
Does he deserve to be arrested? Sure. But I'm not gonna pretend to know they planned on kidnapping senators. If something bigger happens after this I'll eat my words, but my original point stands. This woman didnt deserve to die for being brainwashed, but it's not like I can convince anyone otherwise
It isn't about what she deserved or didn't deserve, though. It's about whether the person who shot her was justified in doing so. That's a legal question, and the answer is very clear based on the video. 
That officer didn't deserve to be placed in the position of having to choose between harming that woman and being harmed himself. He was placed in that position, however, and he was placed there by that woman and other people with her.
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: natedawgnow] 1
#27135183 - 01/08/21 12:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: One of them killed a police officer with a fire extinguisher. How fucking stupid are you?
Plus dozens more cops were injured by the mob.
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natedawgnow said: This woman didnt deserve to die for being brainwashed, but it's not like I can convince anyone otherwise
I would say her death is regrettable and could well have been preventable if the cop had made different choices. Or if she had made different choices obviously. Whether or not the cop's choice is found to be legally justifiable (and I suspect it will be), that choice is something that cop will have to live with.
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#27135184 - 01/08/21 12:30 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: One of them killed a police officer with a fire extinguisher. How fucking stupid are you?
More than two dozen people died during the BLM riots.
Why haven't the BLM rioters been declared as "domestic terrorists"?
Oh yeah, because their political alignment just so happens to align with the Democrats.
The double standard and hypocrisy is fucking sickening. You people should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves for failing to see through this hypocrisy.
The vast majority of people at the Capitol building were peaceful, and that's a fact. Angry, sure, but mostly peaceful. The number of people who actually broke into the building was a tiny percentage of the overall crowd.
Ashli Babitt didn't deserve to die like that, and neither did any of the people who died during the BLM riots.
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: natedawgnow] 1
#27135189 - 01/08/21 12:32 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Calling American protesters terrorists is admitting you don't believe in the 1st amendment. If it's like that then forget the entire constitution and bill of rights.
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: chopstick] 2
#27135191 - 01/08/21 12:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mostly peaceful? They stormed the seat of the us government. They are terrorists.
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: MycoBrainz]
#27135193 - 01/08/21 12:35 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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MycoBrainz said: Calling American protesters terrorists is admitting you don't believe in the 1st amendment. If it's like that then forget the entire constitution and bill of rights.
Where in the first amendment does it say anything about breaking windows and stealing podiums?
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods] 1
#27135194 - 01/08/21 12:36 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Solution: have a bipartisan bill designating “anti government extremists” as terrorists, so then the next Republican president can start throwing BLM organizers in Gitmo.
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: chopstick]
#27135197 - 01/08/21 12:36 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: One of them killed a police officer with a fire extinguisher. How fucking stupid are you?
More than two dozen people died during the BLM riots.
Why haven't the BLM rioters been declared as "domestic terrorists"?
Oh yeah, because their political alignment just so happens to align with the Democrats.
The double standard and hypocrisy is fucking sickening. You people should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves for failing to see through this hypocrisy.
The vast majority of people at the Capitol building were peaceful, and that's a fact. Angry, sure, but mostly peaceful. The number of people who actually broke into the building was a tiny percentage of the overall crowd.
Ashli Babitt didn't deserve to die like that, and neither did any of the people who died during the BLM riots.
What dozens of people were killed?
The one federal officer who was killed during the blm protests was killed by a right wing boogaloo.
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#27135198 - 01/08/21 12:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Gitmo can't house U.S. citizens, though. The whole point of the place is to have it outside of U.S. soil so that the detainees have no due process rights under the Constitution.
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: chopstick]
#27135199 - 01/08/21 12:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: One of them killed a police officer with a fire extinguisher. How fucking stupid are you?
More than two dozen people died during the BLM riots.
Why haven't the BLM rioters been declared as "domestic terrorists"?
Oh yeah, because their political alignment just so happens to align with the Democrats.
The double standard and hypocrisy is fucking sickening. You people should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves for failing to see through this hypocrisy.
The vast majority of people at the Capitol building were peaceful, and that's a fact. Angry, sure, but mostly peaceful. The number of people who actually broke into the building was a tiny percentage of the overall crowd.
Ashli Babitt didn't deserve to die like that, and neither did any of the people who died during the BLM riots.
the two are not at all equivalent.
1. the premise of their 'protests' being completely different, one being primarily about police abuse of force, with the other being a conspiracy theory and an attempt to thwart the democratic process.
2. BLM organized marches were not started with the intent of burning buildings and looting, and contained way more people. In any huge event like that, some will get out of hand or take advantage to steal, but it was not the express intent of the movement or most who took part. This however, was an overt attempt at a coup. This wasn't a misunderstood exercise in protest, this was a violent -and illegal- attempt to storm the capital building, in order to capture and potentially murder officials to push an extremist agenda. I know you will never see it this way, as you are apparently one of these people, but the difference is obvious to anyone with half a brain.
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: natedawgnow]
#27135200 - 01/08/21 12:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Who knows. But we're talking about the unarmed woman who is now dead and not the guy playing dress up who didnt actually do anything despite a scary photo and is still alive.
You also spoke more generally in that comment about the intent of "These people", and that is what I was responding to.
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natedawgnow said: These people were intent on taking good selfies and that alone it seems.
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