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Is this true that if you take a Psilocybin shroom out of freezer & don't consume it after couple of hours they lose potency?
#27134946 - 01/08/21 11:07 AM (3 years, 20 days ago) |
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I heard this from Zamnesia which was very strange for me, So I want to know about this from you guys too! Is this true? (*I also want to add that they have not been yet stored in freezer and I just want to know this for my buddy, but inside his fridge instead until now)
In this case does that mean, can you no longer store Psilocybin somewhere else if you once have stored them inside a freezer, because they will lose potency if you take them out?
Edited by zero2infinite (01/09/21 11:14 AM)
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Re: Is this true that if you take a Psilocybin shroom out of freezer & don't consume it after couple of hours they lose potency? [Re: zero2infinite]
#27135168 - 01/08/21 12:25 PM (3 years, 20 days ago) |
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Seems highly unlikely. Once upon a time when I was a noob I use to store all of my goods in the freezer. They would be frozen upon me dehydrating them and taking them out in certain quantities. One time I took a whole ounce out with the intention to eat them at a party. I forget them and decided to not go back for them once I realized and they sat in my desk drawer for probably a solid month before consuming them. No noticeably lack of potency or any change for that matter. Air is what causes them to oxidize and lose potency. If you can keep them as air tight as possible there should be no problem.
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Re: Is this true that if you take a Psilocybin shroom out of freezer & don't consume it after couple of hours they lose potency? [Re: Dark fatal7]
#27135240 - 01/08/21 12:57 PM (3 years, 20 days ago) |
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Ok but I have heard this from Zamnesia at least that's what they said to me!
But how come they stayed in your desk drawer for "a solid month" if you just went to the party after that lol ???
Beside that, I'm also wondering whether they were dried as well, before you stored them inside your freezer? Also did you not dried them again once you take them out after you came back from the party somehow? cheers
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Re: Is this true that if you take a Psilocybin shroom out of freezer & don't consume it after couple of hours they lose potency? [Re: zero2infinite]
#27135275 - 01/08/21 01:17 PM (3 years, 20 days ago) |
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Not trying to step on toes, but I don't think that's correct.
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bodhisatta said: who said they're susceptible to oxygen? they oxidize when they're still wet and not cracker dry but that doesn't have too much to do with oxygen other than oxygen being the main part of the discovery of oxidation reactions.
The best way to preserve shrooms is cracker dry at room temperature in a vacuum sealed bag or glass jar with a rubber gasket. Keep them out of the light as well. Don't put them in the freezer.
Potency degrades most dramatically after drying if you allow them to reabsorb atmospheric water by exposing them to humid air. Put a desiccant packet in the jar or bag with them if you want to minimize this.
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Re: Is this true that if you take a Psilocybin shroom out of freezer & don't consume it after couple of hours they lose potency? [Re: Marxcelium]
#27137139 - 01/09/21 09:07 AM (3 years, 19 days ago) |
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Ok but you did not answered my actual question
Also my buddy have only stored them inside his refrigerator so far and I just want to make sure that if he store them in air-tight container maybe inside ziplocked bag as well with some desiccant, can they still get any mold this way as well too?
Because this way not only you have dried them but also placed them with some desiccant for double protection.
But his main problem is not even any of that, and although he have not placed them inside the freezer anyway as I told you before but more towards the fact that we both heard from Zamnesia that if you take Psilocybin shroom out of your freezer & don't consume it after couple of hours later they might lose some or all of their effects!
But the reason I'm asking you about this is because he has stored them inside his refrigerator since the late December last year when of course the weather was and is still too cold so the same scenario might apply to this if not always! Beside he is also little bit scared that they might have got little bit wet too by just storing them inside his fridge "due to the low temperature or high humidity" that we are now in (if that makes sense) so that he might no longer even be able to store them outside his fridge even if he wants to do it from now because they might get bad smell because of that!
But I think when it comes to getting mold it must be opposite of that since they are more likely to get moldy inside a fridge or freezer rather than at room atmosphere. So no problem about this hopefully.
But he also want to make sure that is it even ok to take them out of his fridge (maybe just on those days that are too cold) both in terms of that they might lose their potency in anyway as well as that if they got little bit wet (again because of the weather) during the winter? But do you think so too? or are they going to be ok?
So what shall he do now, Do you think they might have got slightly wet due to low temperature or humidity or something inside his fridge? this is what mostly stops him to now take them out of his fridge from now and of course the other reason. (*mainly because they might get bad smell if he take them out) Do you know what I mean? or do you think that's very unlikely to have happened as it was only stored in fridge not a freezer?
Can you please help him decide? cheers :0
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Re: Is this true that if you take a Psilocybin shroom out of freezer & don't consume it after couple of hours they lose potency? [Re: zero2infinite]
#27137160 - 01/09/21 09:17 AM (3 years, 19 days ago) |
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He stored dehydrated shrooms in a fridge? Why on earth would anyone do that? If they have been in the fridge for 13 months they may be moldy due to condensation which is why you don't use the freezer either. You know how a cup sweats? That process also works in reverse. Any air inside whatever they are stored in turned to water droplets long ago. I have a friend I gave some to over a year ago that kept them in a sandwich bag, ate them a year later and tripped balls. If you have ethanol extract sure store it in the freezer but store shrooms at room temp.
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Re: Is this true that if you take a Psilocybin shroom out of freezer & don't consume it after couple of hours they lose potency? [Re: Professor X]
#27137390 - 01/09/21 10:40 AM (3 years, 19 days ago) |
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No they are cracker dry, but he is little bit suspicious that they might have got little bit damp (due to the low temperature or the humidity of this season) ) even due they've not been in freezer?
Did you read my whole comment above this one to understand me? What shall he do now? Is it ok if he just take them out of his fridge with the things that I said?
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Re: Is this true that if you take a Psilocybin shroom out of freezer & don't consume it after couple of hours they lose potency? [Re: zero2infinite]
#27137444 - 01/09/21 11:07 AM (3 years, 19 days ago) |
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If you are that concerned just pull them out and throw them back in the dehydrator a few hours and just keep them out this time. Buy a jar or two or however many. The clamp type with the rubber gasket. Throw a desiccant pack in there.
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Re: Is this true that if you take a Psilocybin shroom out of freezer & don't consume it after couple of hours they lose potency? [Re: zero2infinite]
#27137482 - 01/09/21 11:26 AM (3 years, 19 days ago) |
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zero2infinite said: Ok but I have heard this from Zamnesia at least that's what they said to me!
But how come they stayed in your desk drawer for "a solid month" if you just went to the party after that lol ???
Beside that, I'm also wondering whether they were dried as well, before you stored them inside your freezer? Also did you not dried them again once you take them out after you came back from the party somehow? cheers 
I put them in my desk and forgot about them went to the party so I didnt have them on me. I only use to trip with friends so they sat in my desk for a month because I left without them. They were dehydrated before putting them in the freezer and no I didn't dry them again after.
To the person who stated air doesn't oxidize them it does... Take shrooms that were put in air tight jars for a while and some that were in a plastic bag and nothing else for awhile you will notice a difference. It does degrade from oxidation
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Re: Is this true that if you take a Psilocybin shroom out of freezer & don't consume it after couple of hours they lose potency? [Re: Dark fatal7]
#27137565 - 01/09/21 12:18 PM (3 years, 19 days ago) |
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Moisture in the air is the problem with plastic bags
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Re: Is this true that if you take a Psilocybin shroom out of freezer & don't consume it after couple of hours they lose potency? [Re: Professor X]
#27144908 - 01/13/21 12:40 AM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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First of all to clarify any confusion as the title might be little bit miss leading, I have to say that I still haven't even stored them inside my freezer yet and I don't think I will and I just wanted to know about that claim that I heard, but inside my fridge actually instead!
Yes but I don't have dehydrator and I'm not sure whether it is also ok to re-dry Psilocybin again or not? I also can't be bothered to do that and I was thinking first of all this is all just my gassings as I'm not really sure that they actually got little bit damp due to the low temperature of this season inside my fridge.
I also know that its is less likely for them to get mold outside the fridge than when they are stored in there anyway. However the only thing that I was thinking maybe they may be more vulnerable is bacteria, however that might be reversed as well? Am I not right?
Beside this , I also don't think that they got very damp, so maybe I don't even need to dry them again because they only been in my refrigerator not freezer.
So shall I keep them in my fridge or take them out in this case?
I'm also thinking to store them for more than a year and I was thinking between what room temperatures is it ok to store them?
But before any of that just to better make my mind I want to know that I have already put them into 2 ziplock bag inside a box container with a desiccant, and I want to know can they still get mold this way too?
cheers
Edited by zero2infinite (01/13/21 12:46 AM)
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Re: Is this true that if you take a Psilocybin shroom out of freezer & don't consume it after couple of hours they lose potency? [Re: zero2infinite]
#27146698 - 01/13/21 09:44 PM (3 years, 15 days ago) |
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I don't think anyone here will know unless they've specifically tested for this. Testing for potency is also difficult (esp if you're just one person).
Most you're gonna get is ppl telling you not to put mushrooms in a freezer lol.
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Re: Is this true that if you take a Psilocybin shroom out of freezer & don't consume it after couple of hours they lose potency? [Re: Josborne]
#27146913 - 01/14/21 12:36 AM (3 years, 14 days ago) |
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If moisture in the air is the problem with plastic bags as Bod says above, then why is the freezer a problem, being below 32F would mean there cant be any moisture in the air cuz it would be a solid at that temp right? But condensation would occur when you take them out, which could be a problem solved with a dehydrator then, which I think is what professorx was saying... right?
Edited by RamJam (01/14/21 01:49 AM)
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