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    #27134528 - 01/08/21 05:52 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Back in October I took mushrooms at my friends rental house. We were smoking weed in the backyard shortly after taking some mushrooms in the kitchen we had eaten a few hours earlier.

I haven’t heard of anyone attempting to draw this yet but I might the next time I’m able to trip. I saw the trees looking at me very strangely and also they were startled when I looked at them too. They even followed my hand movements and would even move their heads? I’d move my head and they’d move whatever their head was suppose to be? My friend also witnessed this and he decided to step back inside the house.

A few minutes into this I started to notice letters popping up like the letter m. Also I’d see my own thoughts in the leaves? I saw my full name a girl I knew who was very kin to nature and mystical life. “M, meme, mom, Seth (my name), Maddie, fade,” other words I can’t really remember I believe sentences were trying to form

Heres the part I really wanted to get into. So I looked at these trees as I was getting a bit higher and noticed they were happy to show me something? Now why were they starting to lean for? The branches were literally moving and nobody was around to see this. The trees were purposely all leaning in this one triangle area of the trees. So I decided to listen to the trees and look into the triangle area. Low and behold I saw many patterns appear before me. It’s like I was detaching from reality and I started to see through pockets of visible light little rainbows. And within those little rainbows were these eyes I saw the trees had eyes! I forgot to mention I did see some kind of head and face abstraction in the leaves however it became more clear to me now!

As I laid back my eyes started to tear realizing that these might be my ancestors looking at me? They also looked like me and would kinda make fun of me too. I’d look away and they’d pop back up to greet me. They became a wall of faces in a circle spiral pattern? Each in a column I’ll have to draw this because I cannot find a painting or piece of art like this! I’ve heard that the ancestors are in the trees from a spiritual teacher. That most of the rainforests have our ancestors the ones near the star gates. These faces looked like family however I came to the conclusion it might be possible they are past lives? I think of that idea we are all the many masks of god. I have truly felt that feeling that everyone is me in fact however I’m also that person who had a single set of good intentional thoughts on shrooms and that would in fact change the whole day for everyone who was living! When I take shrooms it’s as if my thoughts can impact the world depending on who I want to influence? Mainly I want to get into the ancestor wall that I had witnessed combined with a rainbow spectrum.

Is there anybody that has 1 seen faces or eyes in the trees then 2 look into the leaning trees 3 look into the trees triangle 4 wait for a bit see a few geometric patterns and 5 see little avatar heads and faces pop up to greet you inside visible light popping out of the tree and 6 a column wall of ancestors inside this rainbow spectrum? I’m pretty normal I don’t have anything morphing into objects or hearing unusual phenomena I’m perfectly fine I just see details better in life than normal people. Anybody have any clues to what I witnessed or have any further clues because I’m pretty sure when I trip again I’ll draw this and also trip a little further if I want to. I’ve even seen a full 3D avatar spirit head mouth words to me trying to speak


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Re: Seeing spirits on mushrooms [Re: PorkHill] * 2
    #27135902 - 01/08/21 05:50 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

after a seriously heavy and world shattering mhrb/rue experience when I was 17, I have had basically this kind of mushroom trip every time since then. not exactly down to the details, but very similar.

these experiences/visions/whatever spanned from just faces in rocks, trees, grass, clouds, stars - to fully formed non physical beings, and even spaceship and flying saucer themes and motifs. always the sense of a presence (or presences) in control of the narrative of my experiences, and even events in my life unrelated to tripping. I went back and forth a lot trying to understand these beings and whether they were real or just a part of my subconscious. I concluded that it doesn’t matter much. sometimes they had important things to say and show, other times they were just kinda there.

this happened literally every time I took more than 1.5g of mushrooms, for over ten years. the last time I took mushrooms was about 6 years ago (after a several year break from tripping), and the same thing happened. they actually told me that even though it’s going to be a while before I come back to them, they’ll be there waiting when I do - and we will pick up right where we left off.

I don’t think I am unstable or unusual, and I don’t have any reason to believe I am more prone to this kind of experience than others - but I have never met someone who has had this happen in quite the same way. also I don’t know if I “believe” in them still.... or if I do, whether they are spirits, ancestors, extraterrestrials, disincarnate entities who inhabit another ‘frequency’ of existence, or what... though I do have theories.

just saying... this isn’t exactly common, but it does happen.

remember to save what you wrote about it when it was fresh, you may want to read that again at some point.


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Re: Seeing spirits on mushrooms [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #27136132 - 01/08/21 07:28 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

yeah man you were just having a deep psychedelic experience.  your brain started to make semblances of what it could.. like the letter m - suddenly its the most meaningful thing in the world.  "Also I’d see my own thoughts in the leaves? I saw my full name a girl I knew who was very kin to nature and mystical life. “M, meme, mom, Seth (my name), Maddie, fade,” other words I can’t really remember I believe sentences were trying to form"

that's the externalization of internal processes that are always going on.  a projection of your inner state into the outer world.  the deeper the psychedelic experience goes, the more that shows us it's all inside, not outside of us.  so the experience is generally about the translation between the two - but then when duality dissolves - they become one.  your thoughts and the world outside of you are now blurred and are overlapping.  hopefully you realize that this is a good start to understanding that there is a whole province of the mind/world we can experience that is otherwise veiled. 

like the other post said, his words were great.  these experiences are earth shattering - but then we come back to normal sobriety afterwards and we live in the world again.  its very hard integrating the two without seeming fucking insane, or losing your mind half way along the way.


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Re: Seeing spirits on mushrooms [Re: Typerwritermonky] * 1
    #27137432 - 01/09/21 11:00 AM (3 years, 19 days ago)

Perfectly normal


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Re: Seeing spirits on mushrooms [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #27139538 - 01/10/21 11:14 AM (3 years, 18 days ago)

I have never seen anything like you have described, but I feel a very strong camaraderie with trees. For me they seem to have a definite awareness and exude a protective atmosphere, and their consciousness is on a "larger" timescale that moves much shower than ours. Trees, from my perspective, create a network of antennas,  they are all connected so if you are in touch with one tree you may be in touch with all trees.


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Re: Seeing spirits on mushrooms [Re: PorkHill]
    #27141042 - 01/10/21 11:45 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Not uncommon at all, OP. Great and thorough write up btw! I'm going to shoot you a :pm: with some additional questions.


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Re: Seeing spirits on mushrooms [Re: PorkHill]
    #27141706 - 01/11/21 10:24 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

I sense energies. Hard to explain but I don’t actually see human shapes or anything like that, just an energy stream.

But the strange thing is, I see about three different energies and they crop up across multiple trips.

And I have also sensed these energies within people that I meet across the world.

Edit: people have postulated that they’re my soul group.

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Re: Seeing spirits on mushrooms [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #27141859 - 01/11/21 11:34 AM (3 years, 17 days ago)

I just want to say I noticed the same thing but I get the sense you have been there much more than I have from your descriptions.

I've been there. Seen them. What strikes me is that it now takes me very little. Less than 2 grams to get close to that tipping point again.

I used to eat 3-4 grams no problem. Best trips ever. But now if I take that amount it immediately grabs a hold of me and takes me right back especially if I'm open to receive it. (not always)

I was told the opposite. I was told that you build tolerance to mushrooms very quickly and they stop working.

That was completely untrue for me. My tolerance has become less. Not more.


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Re: Seeing spirits on mushrooms [Re: PorkHill]
    #27147549 - 01/14/21 11:29 AM (3 years, 14 days ago)

i’ve seen multiple spirits. it was about 3am and i was walking about on the streets on a pretty scary trip.  i saw these 3 kids about 6, 9 and 12 say, stood in a corner hugging each other watching me walk down the middle of the road.  then when i turned around they were gone.  the same night i saw a few more people in places they shouldn’t be at those times.  they just looked like real humans. at one point the street sort of looked like a desert and i saw this shadow guy approaching me. i waved and then turned around and walked off as he felt pretty threatening, like he had ownership over that patch.  there was a lot of gang activity around there, it was a poor area.


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Re: Seeing spirits on mushrooms [Re: monsieurtrips]
    #27147561 - 01/14/21 11:35 AM (3 years, 14 days ago)

For me I believe it opens the third eye. You probably did see actual spirits.

I noted on one of my intense trips that the dead dwell on this other plane that is visible when your 3rd eye is open.

Unhuman things also dwell there. You can feel and usually see a distinct difference between human and non human entities on the other plane. That's how I've experienced it at least. I could feel the presence of dead souls as well as non human ones. Strange and wonderful indeed.


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Re: Seeing spirits on mushrooms [Re: wolfman42]
    #27147657 - 01/14/21 12:26 PM (3 years, 14 days ago)

I love trees and plants when shrooming. When it comes to entities, etcetera, I see it as no more or less than the rest of our experience. That is, I suspect that we are actually all part of a greater consciousness, part of which breaks out (temporarily, for your lifetime) and gets the gift of interacting with this world. In effect though, this reality is an illusion in the sense that while in this world, we dont see the connected big Self. The world we see and call reality is the product of this splintering of the big Self, which has no other selves to relate to until consciousness enters the picture. So, any experience "I" have is illusory, an interpretation by my sense organs and brain of various energies (light/heat/matter etcetera, but is still "real" in the usual conception of reality. If that is the case, then my experiences in psychedelics are also illusory in that they involves having a self that has experience. I don't think we see entities when there is ego death, which is as close to ultimate reality as we can get?

A lot of this kind of thinking stems from my reading of Sri Nissargadata Maharaj's "I Am That". Incredible book.

Caution: Don't take this to mean that I don't value the psychedelic experience and what it teaches tremendously. Or that I think its not "real". I actually find that the way that psychedelics loosen the ego allows us to question reality, and that the messages/lessons obtained are from our selves, but in a way that taps into the big Self (God?) and are therefore more real. But the presence of entities implies duality, which I believe is not where we really come from. However, we may well need this conception of self and other (entity) in order to comprehend the lessons. What comes from above is actually coming from you, but you come from above. Within You Without You (Beatles lyric for you youngins LOL).

Above sounds like crazy shit right?


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Re: Seeing spirits on mushrooms [Re: Neurotech]
    #27147880 - 01/14/21 02:22 PM (3 years, 14 days ago)

Thank you! It doesn't sound crazy to me after what I saw. Perhaps not crazy enough :wink:

I agree. I don't think the point is to interact with the entities because yes you're right that shows that we are still separate. I am me and they are other.

I think perhaps the different levels of experience I've heard it described like an elevator going down several floors.

I believe what you are talking about is on the last floor. It's cosmic consciousness or enlightenment or being with God. I think then you sense the oneness. You realize how much of illusion "you" are. And that "you" can be split. "you" can be dissolved.

If you get off at one of the earlier floors however I do think you get a glimpse of the other planes of existence and the things that live there. So I also believe in a multi-verse where these things are. But they too are subject to the oneness and God's grace/love. I don't know how it all fits together I know the entities are not the point of the trip but holy shit I've never seen anything like them before and I had no concept of them in my mind. So I ask myself did this come from me? Or somewhere else? I tend to believe the latter.

I own the book "I am that" Ive read some excerpts although I need to read much more. This is a special book to me because my brother loves it so much and I hold him in high regard as a spiritual teacher and someone on the path.


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Re: Seeing spirits on mushrooms [Re: wolfman42]
    #27147949 - 01/14/21 02:51 PM (3 years, 14 days ago)

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Thank you! It doesn't sound crazy to me after what I saw. Perhaps not crazy enough :wink:

I agree. I don't think the point is to interact with the entities because yes you're right that shows that we are still separate. I am me and they are other.

I think perhaps the different levels of experience I've heard it described like an elevator going down several floors.

I believe what you are talking about is on the last floor. It's cosmic consciousness or enlightenment or being with God. I think then you sense the oneness. You realize how much of illusion "you" are. And that "you" can be split. "you" can be dissolved.

If you get off at one of the earlier floors however I do think you get a glimpse of the other planes of existence and the things that live there. So I also believe in a multi-verse where these things are. But they too are subject to the oneness and God's grace/love. I don't know how it all fits together I know the entities are not the point of the trip but holy shit I've never seen anything like them before and I had no concept of them in my mind. So I ask myself did this come from me? Or somewhere else? I tend to believe the latter.

I own the book "I am that" Ive read some excerpts although I need to read much more. This is a special book to me because my brother loves it so much and I hold him in high regard as a spiritual teacher and someone on the path.




But if its true that we are all one, it is what we are calling the ego that keeps us in the dark regarding that. Its necessary to keep it in the dark to function. But also, if its true, then we must be the source. Even if the ultimate source is the big Self that we come from, it is still our experience.

You are the first person I have met familiar with the book I Am That! I use the book like some use a bible. I have had it for years and am not quite done. I read each sentence and try to understand and imagine if it were true. I rarely read more than one section at a time. And sometimes, I just open it randomly and hope it applies to what I need to learn right now. On a less esoteric note, have you read "Why Buddhism Is True" by Richard Wright? Awesome book. I listened to it in the shower every morning in 7-10 minute increments lol.


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Re: Seeing spirits on mushrooms [Re: PorkHill]
    #27148157 - 01/14/21 04:57 PM (3 years, 14 days ago)

I also consider trees as my good first guide during my 1st trip

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Nice to hear it from thy fellows who felt it.

I was a skeptic before but it opened my blind eyes, No wonder those who practice ayahuasca in the jungles strongly felt this as time goesby. To the point of nature's spirit guides them to the right plants.

I remembered The first time i took mushroom i was under a tree @ its peak.
I wondered about it when i saw the movements of the tree like a calm waves of water.
Its branch looked like arms and its leaves like its fingers, magically waving upon me.
There i felt i was a child once again, that litteral tears of joy flowed thru my eye for hours and hours.

i realized this upon refereshing my memory on that 1st ever experience, is that lichens(merging of water and land) are not far from that tree, the perfect and last state of lichens is the tree & the fungi underneat its roots.

Everything has its perfect and last state, The perfect or the last state of sand is glass. The perfect or the last state of carbon is diamond. God is the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the end, the First and the Last.

Where we as mere humans are from the dust of our mother earth's womb, that contains apart of the DNA of all the living things around us.
By the grace of God we are all the last state of all the living organisms.




although no one thought me I had that feeling of multiple ancestors in a single tree. three(perfect number) trees is mindblowing.

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Re: Seeing spirits on mushrooms [Re: pacmanbreed]
    #27148820 - 01/14/21 11:05 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

Anyone else seeing entities while tripping as of late?


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Re: Seeing spirits on mushrooms [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27148865 - 01/14/21 11:51 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

Yes I've seen a Cherub. As in Cherubim. A biblical 'angel' even though they are not ever called angels in scripture.

It was covered in eyes and feathers. I could not make out the shape of it. It was huge. It was with me when I had ego death and a near death experience. I don't know if it wanted anything or to say anything. It was silent. But it looked at me. Its many eyes more beautiful than the most beautiful human woman I have seen. I couldn't get a read on it. But I know it meant me no harm. It simply observed me as I lay there lifeless on my bed unable to move. It would open one eye. Close it. Then open another. As if it was studying me. But I really have no clue.


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Re: Seeing spirits on mushrooms [Re: wolfman42]
    #27148980 - 01/15/21 02:35 AM (3 years, 13 days ago)

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Yes I've seen a Cherub. As in Cherubim. A biblical 'angel' even though they are not ever called angels in scripture.

It was covered in eyes and feathers. I could not make out the shape of it. It was huge. It was with me when I had ego death and a near death experience. I don't know if it wanted anything or to say anything. It was silent. But it looked at me. Its many eyes more beautiful than the most beautiful human woman I have seen. I couldn't get a read on it. But I know it meant me no harm. It simply observed me as I lay there lifeless on my bed unable to move. It would open one eye. Close it. Then open another. As if it was studying me. But I really have no clue.




Ha! I've seen similar entities/beings, and I'd argue altered states of consciousness are responsible for the majority of "myths" and "allegories" regarding such entities. There's definitely a grain of ontological truth to their existence relative to yours.

Ever get gnomes/elves? I feel like they're more gnomes than elves; like, literally cartoon characters with red hats hiding behind small shrubbery.

Fairies? I've yet to encounter.


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Re: Seeing spirits on mushrooms [Re: Loaded Shaman] * 1
    #27149157 - 01/15/21 05:51 AM (3 years, 13 days ago)

Dude I almost always get the gnomes or elves. Generally they’re in corners and along skirting boards but there re thousands of them.

Do you get the fairground people? I often find myself in a fairground ride, one of those like a Merry go round. But there are hundreds of mushroom people on there with me. We all sway and bop to the music in sync, and throng together. Even when they look really scary, they are almost always perceived as my mushroom family. The hordes.....

Check out this book cover from Michael Moorcock, the gnomes look pretty much like this for me:



Hey loaded, do you see the evil jester? Looks like harlequin, but is generally white, red and black. And very menacing :eek:

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Re: Seeing spirits on mushrooms [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #27149384 - 01/15/21 09:03 AM (3 years, 13 days ago)

Yes I see the little gnomes (whatever they are) almost every time I have a decent trip. They laugh at everything I do. They are quite proud of themselves that's the feeling I get from them. They to me are the mushrooms but I don't really know. I think of them as the mushrooms inserting themselves in my trip and being all meta. I think of them as the guides and the ones making the experience possible.

They seem to be a permanent feature of any of my trips that go beyond just the usual visuals.

They look somewhat like you describe. I see them in my periphery usually not head on. I love feeling their presence. They seem very childlike. They do appear to be or having red tops and big grins and beards? I only see them in the corners as DJ Ed described. I've never had one sit right in front of me.

Unfortunately no fairies. What a sight that would be though.

Saw a floating elephant head which I took as Ganesh. Shrouded in pink/purplish light. He appeared to me very distinctly towards the end of my last trip. Just for a moment as if to give me a message. That was pretty awesome too.


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Re: Seeing spirits on mushrooms [Re: wolfman42]
    #27149476 - 01/15/21 10:04 AM (3 years, 13 days ago)

OK, how about human size insect-like intelligent entities?


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