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Should I shake my jars? Question about scheduling
    #27133987 - 01/07/21 08:16 PM (3 years, 21 days ago)

Do these jars (oats, inoculated 12/29/20) look like they're ready for a shakin'? Everything I've read says to shake about 20-30%, also that it doesn't matter too much. I have 10 jars total, but they all look about like the ones shown. I'm planning to use one to go g2g and spawning the remaining 9 to 2, unmodded monos.

So, the dilemma I'm running into is my timing: I'm hoping/wanting to take my wife on a Valentines day trip but since this is my first grow I don't really want to come back to a spore mess, rotten fruits or any other list of problems that could present themselves.

This trip isn't planned and doesn't need to happen so that takes a little pressure off, but we were also hoping to sample the fruits together skinnydipping in some natural hotsprings and snowboarding. My questions are:

- Is it even realistic to expect fruits by 2/14/21? I'm thinking it's not

- If not, should I just allow them to colonize without shaking so I'm not ahead of schedule? It feels weird wanting my myc to slow down lol

- Do these jars look ready for a shakin' or should I give them more time? I'm not in a hurry or trying to rush things, just want to know what's possible or to expect time wise. I understand this project works on its' own time.

- If I do spawn before (if) we leave, approximately how long should I expect it to take to colonize the substrate?

- Would it be bad or negatively impact my spawn to let it sit in the jars for 10 or so days after full colonization, or should it really be used as soon as it's done?


Thanks for following along and helping out. I know these are noob questions that I haven't been wanting to ask but the possibility of an unplanned vacation has thrown a wrench into all the 100s of hours of research and preparing I've been doing. Thanks again for all the help and insight, cheers!


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Re: Should I shake my jars? Question about scheduling [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #27134038 - 01/07/21 08:38 PM (3 years, 21 days ago)

Shake well. A little overdue but shake now and well


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Re: Should I shake my jars? Question about scheduling [Re: Magic_Mind89]
    #27134121 - 01/07/21 09:22 PM (3 years, 21 days ago)

I would give them a real good shake so all the fuzz gets spread out in little pieces

I'm guessing you are spawning your jars to bulk

The closer to 1:1 bulk:spawn you go the better for your situation

Use a small tub

Should take about 2 weeks, maybe a month to spread through the tub, then about another 2 weeks before harvest (Don't forget to take spore prints!) Shrooms need to be dried or they will go bad in a few days

When the jars are 100% fuzz its recommended to let them sit for a week or so


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Re: Should I shake my jars? Question about scheduling [Re: Hikeadellic]
    #27134189 - 01/07/21 10:28 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

I would have shaken those a long time ago. Someone recommended that to me and it's worked great.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26959129#26959129


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Re: Should I shake my jars? Question about scheduling [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27134200 - 01/07/21 10:37 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Thanks for the replies everyone. I guess I wasn't super clear when I was typing. I know I need to shake these, and am actually overdue. I'm mostly wondering what the likelihood is that I will be able to get a harvest before 2/14 since we may be going on an impromptu road trip.

I guess I may as well go shake the piss out of 'em in case there is a chance I can get some fruits before we leave. Thanks for the help, cheers!


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Re: Should I shake my jars? Question about scheduling [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #27134211 - 01/07/21 10:47 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Thats a whole month away. You could very likely get fruit before, after or during you time away. Jars can sit for quite a while after they're fully colonized. You can even put em in the fridge (not in the back) and they'll chill out until you're ready to use them. I've done that with plates before. If they freeze, they might do weird stuff.


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Re: Should I shake my jars? Question about scheduling [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27134261 - 01/07/21 11:32 PM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Thanks, that bit about the refrigerator and saving colonized grains for later is more of less what I was wanting to find out! This is my first grow and don't want to set myself up for failure. I just shook/beat the hell out of the jars and was shocked how strong the mycelium is! I'll definitely have to get a cheese grater for my BRF cakes lol.

I'll just wait to see how fast the grains can recover and colonize. If it's fast enough I'll spawn before our trip (assuming we even go) and if the grain finishes too late I'll toss it in the fridge and spawn when we get back. Cheers, mate!


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Re: Should I shake my jars? Question about scheduling [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl] * 1
    #27134334 - 01/08/21 12:47 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Your oats are a bit overhydrated. If it colonizes fully without contam then I'd expect you oughta be able to make the date. Those should colonize in like a week or lesss, if clean, after your shake sesh.


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Re: Should I shake my jars? Question about scheduling [Re: Failboat]
    #27134350 - 01/08/21 01:02 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

I did know my grains are a little over hydrated and burst but didn't figure that out until after the PC cycle :facepalm: I should have dumped 'em and prepped some more but decided to roll the dice, which is not like me at all. I'll know better what I'm looking for next time. Thanks for the vote of confidence, though! This hobby has me hooked so I really hope this batch works out. Even if I just get one good flush I will be thrilled! Cheers, mate


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Re: Should I shake my jars? Question about scheduling [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #27134396 - 01/08/21 02:12 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

You ought to be able to tell overhydrated oats easily enough before the PC run so just be picky. If they're overhydrated you can let em dry out a few hours extra. No need to waste unless its really mushy.


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Re: Should I shake my jars? Question about scheduling [Re: Failboat]
    #27134402 - 01/08/21 02:23 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

I'll be able to from now on. This was my first grain prep so I was a bit shaky. I also made the mistake of following the times in Bods Oat Prep TEK instead of using my own damn eyes and checking to see if they were done. I think my burner is stronger than his so my oats were done way faster than I thought they would be.

Live and learn. I can't wait to try it again!


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Re: Should I shake my jars? Question about scheduling [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #27134414 - 01/08/21 02:35 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

I run like 15lb dry oats in a brew kettle. Strain in mega colander found at a asian markets. Once drip dry I spread em over screens. If I ever actually affix the screens to frames I could process like 50lb oats in a day using bags in 2 prestos. I prefer milo for master jars thesedays. Millet requires finesse. Just some food for thought.

Sounds like you've got the right idea of what's what.


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Re: Should I shake my jars? Question about scheduling [Re: Failboat]
    #27134492 - 01/08/21 05:15 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

My oats always look similar to yours. A bit over hydrated. I just shake and roll em twice a day until the condensation in the jars goes away. Usually takes around 3 days and then they get a pice of agar about the size of a quarter.


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Re: Should I shake my jars? Question about scheduling [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27136828 - 01/09/21 04:56 AM (3 years, 19 days ago)

Well, fuck. I shook my jars last night and for the most part they're bouncing back but there's some bacterial growth in them. I think one is just going to get trashed all together. Some have less than others but they all have some bacteria.

My plan now instead of reserving one for g2g and splitting the remaining 9 quarts into two monotubs is to do 3, 16q minis with 3 quarts spawn each. That way I'm hoping the myc will outcompete the bacteria and at least get me SOME fruits/prints/clones while isolating the infection as best as I can.

I knew this was too good to be true for a first grow but I'm still hooked. As long as I can get like 10-15 dried grams and a few prints I will consider this all to be a huge success. I've definitely learned a LOT from this first grow and can't wait to apply these lessons moving forward. Cheers!


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