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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: MagicMush123]
#27199668 - 02/11/21 04:01 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: I just guess I don't see why someone like Charlie Manson goes to jail for his incitement of violence but trump just gets a kangaroo court. Even if impeachment is successful there's no culpability besides not running for public office.
Lol what parallels do you see between Manson and trump? Manson literally drugged, brainwashed, groomed and picked individual targets for his family to kill.
And trump brainwashed his fans to do this
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: MagicMush123]
#27199670 - 02/11/21 04:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is why I think capitol police should have just lit the crowd up. Really hammer home the point of "stand your ground".
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: MagicMush123]
#27199671 - 02/11/21 04:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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They did more than chant the erected a fucking gallow kicked in the door and looked to capture him and others with handcuffs
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Kryptos]
#27199674 - 02/11/21 04:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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i think you dont really think that
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: bodhisatta]
#27199675 - 02/11/21 04:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: I just guess I don't see why someone like Charlie Manson goes to jail for his incitement of violence but trump just gets a kangaroo court. Even if impeachment is successful there's no culpability besides not running for public office.
Lol what parallels do you see between Manson and trump? Manson literally drugged, brainwashed, groomed and picked individual targets for his family to kill.
Manson didn't stab Sharon tate And Trump didn't kill a cop, or remove another cops eye, or get some other people killed. But all the people that were there doing violence said trump told them to
Linking trump to Manson must be the absurd claim ive heard yet
Please articulate why it's a bad comparison then
Well if you think trump telling his supporters to march to the capital is in same lane as drugging, brainwashing, and literally handpicking targets... then idk what to say. We're too far apart to get anywhere
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: MagicMush123]
#27199678 - 02/11/21 04:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: If someone breaks down your door and has restraints and is wearing riot gear. Then says I'm going to harm you.
Republicans have already decided that's evidence of intent to harm. Hence them pushing castle doctrine and stand your ground laws. By all conservative accounts mike pence would have been justified shooting at them.
Im not saying it wasn't heinous dude, im just saying it wasn't a literal coup attempt
What were they going to do smoke cigarettes and drink bud light in there? They broke in to remove and kill people and try to keep trump in power. That's a coup.
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: MagicMush123]
#27199681 - 02/11/21 04:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: I just guess I don't see why someone like Charlie Manson goes to jail for his incitement of violence but trump just gets a kangaroo court. Even if impeachment is successful there's no culpability besides not running for public office.
Lol what parallels do you see between Manson and trump? Manson literally drugged, brainwashed, groomed and picked individual targets for his family to kill.
Manson didn't stab Sharon tate And Trump didn't kill a cop, or remove another cops eye, or get some other people killed. But all the people that were there doing violence said trump told them to
Linking trump to Manson must be the absurd claim ive heard yet
Please articulate why it's a bad comparison then
Well if you think trump telling his supporters to march to the capital is in same lane as drugging, brainwashing, and literally handpicking targets... then idk what to say. We're too far apart to get anywhere
Drugged with rhetoric. Brainwashed with rhetoric. Look at people like chopstick that still thinks the election was stolen. Plenty were brainwashed. Handpicked the gullible people. And then having them go try to kill Michigan's governor, hang mike pence, and peloci
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: bodhisatta]
#27199689 - 02/11/21 04:10 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I mean yeah these people have been saying they're gonna kill people for years and years and you people just keep pressing all the wrong buttons on it. No surprise this happened
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: bodhisatta]
#27199692 - 02/11/21 04:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I guess since trump didn't incite them they would all have still been there had he said nothing.
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: MagicMush123]
#27199776 - 02/11/21 05:08 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im not saying it wasn't heinous dude, im just saying it wasn't a literal coup attempt
It definitely was and if capital police had shot a whole bunch of those morons most Americans would have been totally fine with it . What your saying is completely detached from reality as usual .
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: bodhisatta]
#27199806 - 02/11/21 05:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol for you, this is so out of character. So trump is responsible for what a tiny minority of people did because of rhetoric. When has rhetoric ever come up as an excuse for what people do?
Do you also believe that the msm is responsible when their rhetoric triggers riots after they sensationalize/give false or partial facts to cause outrage? I mean its all for ratings right
Was ozzy Osbourne responsible for causing people to commit suicide after listening to his record?
What about blms rhetoric causing its supporters to riot or shoot police?
Trump says a lot of things. I dont think he was triggering a riot/coup when he told his supporters to protest at the Capitol  I just think they're a bunch of fucking idiots who got caught up in the moment and got carried away. I just dont think they went there to start a literal coup
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: MagicMush123]
#27199824 - 02/11/21 05:31 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Personally I love the fact that they've stirred up the actual deep state. The fact that the FBI/etc is finally paying attention to white supremacist movements now that it's actually threatened the american power structure is so sweet.
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: MagicMush123]
#27199829 - 02/11/21 05:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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If ozzy heard people were commiting suicide because of his music he would say publicly to stop. Don't do that. It's not the message.
Say Trump didn't mean to incite any violence or any of what happened. He didn't it off and he could have. Says everything about intention.
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods]
#27199830 - 02/11/21 05:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: I just guess I don't see why someone like Charlie Manson goes to jail for his incitement of violence but trump just gets a kangaroo court. Even if impeachment is successful there's no culpability besides not running for public office.
Lol what parallels do you see between Manson and trump? Manson literally drugged, brainwashed, groomed and picked individual targets for his family to kill.
And trump brainwashed his fans to do this

This is what the msn brainwashed blm to do

Do you see how this works koods?
Both sides are wong, ok. Why can't you bring yourself to admit that?
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: bodhisatta]
#27199834 - 02/11/21 05:35 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well he released a video telling them to stop and go home...
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: MagicMush123]
#27199837 - 02/11/21 05:37 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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be honest who would you rather party with?
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: MagicMush123] 1
#27199855 - 02/11/21 05:42 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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MagicMush123 said: Well he released a video telling them to stop and go home...
Maybe you should watch the trial and see just how long it took for him to relinquish and put that out.
Also why do you have to compare to BLM. This isn't about BLM. There's no need to admit or care about them being just as bad. The comparison is beyond superfluous to dealing with what happened at the Capitol
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: MagicMush123]
#27199863 - 02/11/21 05:45 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: I just guess I don't see why someone like Charlie Manson goes to jail for his incitement of violence but trump just gets a kangaroo court. Even if impeachment is successful there's no culpability besides not running for public office.
Lol what parallels do you see between Manson and trump? Manson literally drugged, brainwashed, groomed and picked individual targets for his family to kill.
And trump brainwashed his fans to do this

This is what the msn brainwashed blm to do

Do you see how this works koods?
Both sides are wong, ok. Why can't you bring yourself to admit that?
Actually protesting against four cops murdering a defenseless and restrained dude is precisely and exactly the same as a mob invading the capital Don't you understand that right and wrong are arbitrary and meaningless????? I mean it's not like cops continued to brutalize protestors against them, right?
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#27199871 - 02/11/21 05:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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MagicMush123 said: This is what the msn brainwashed blm to do
That's retarded. George floyd was actually murdered. People were pissed about that. The thing that actually happened.
These people attacked the capitol because they were lied to. By Trump. For months. He told them the election was STOLEN. From THEM. And they had to FIGHT to take the country BACK. aka put him in power aka a coup.
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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: bodhisatta]
#27199872 - 02/11/21 05:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Admittedly i haven't watched the trial. Lawyers are pretty convincing tho..
The comparison is because we're talking about rhetoric and its potential for violence. Why can't we compare trumps rhetoric to blms and compare the outcomes of such 
Ok how about politician to politician. Was Bernie Sanders rhetoric responsible for the bernie supporter who shot Republicans at the baseball game?
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