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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27153185 - 01/17/21 10:35 AM (3 years, 11 days ago)

And then there's all this legal talk about whether pardons make things better or worse for Trump. The theory being advanced is that under certain circumstances, the pardoned would lose their 5th Amendment rights and could be compelled to testify.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #27153204 - 01/17/21 10:45 AM (3 years, 11 days ago)

There is absolutely no motivation for a pardoned person to cooperate with law enforcement


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Enlil]
    #27153216 - 01/17/21 10:55 AM (3 years, 11 days ago)

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Enlil said:
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Why are they holding Buffalo Head Dude, and not Zip-Tie Guy?



He was indicted on felony charges, first of all.  Second, he was deemed a flight risk and danger to the community.  The minute order reads, in relevant part:

Quote:

Defendant ordered detained pending further proceedings as a serious flight risk, a serious risk of obstructing justice, and danger to the community.




Let's not forget that Jake Anjeli was armed.

Edit: I just read the government's brief, and it appears Anjeli said he would return for inauguration. I'm sure that's where the "danger to the community" part comes from.  Also, there's a lot in there about his flight risk based on his mental health, drug problems, employment status and history, etc.  That dude was apparently all fucked up (if you couldn't tell by the face paint and the horns.)






Interesting, thanks.

In my limited perception, Brock seemed to have more nefarious intent than Angeli, especially considering that he got fired from a job for talking about killing people of a "particular religion or race."


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: MagicMush123]
    #27153308 - 01/17/21 11:45 AM (3 years, 11 days ago)

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Ok cool we can agree on something  :thumbup:

We should probably just end this here, but dont lose perspective of the big picture. Just because some whites were bad it doesn't mean that all are. The ones you met dont represent the rest. Don't you think generally disliking whites for how some acted is almost like a racism and that's apparently the very thing you're agianst?





Yes, it’s one of life’s strange contradictions and it’s a big problem with white racism- white folks will never truly be able to deal with their racism against people of color until they deal with their racism against other white folks in different social classes than themselves. Poor white folks dislike well off white folks and vice versa. The hate between Trump supporters and Democrats is real and mostly white on white.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: ShroomBoomBoomBoom]
    #27153426 - 01/17/21 12:36 PM (3 years, 11 days ago)

The amount of entitlement and lack of personal responsibility for their actions that white people feel just because they are clearly ignorant and delusional is really reaching a crescendo 

Realtor who flew in private jet to storm Capitol Hill publicly begs Trump for pardon

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trump's cronies said:
but papa trump told us to!!!:cryaboutit:






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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: TheStallionMang] * 1
    #27153523 - 01/17/21 01:34 PM (3 years, 11 days ago)

Just so we are on the same page is congress the good guys now? Did their approval rating rise from 10 percent? They didnt really mean to go to war in Iraq right, just bad info? do we  still support sending our troops to fight in the far away deserts again? On that note our tech oligarchs really arent that bad unless they allow scary words on the internet, cant have that. The mainstream media is now a beacon of truth.  Labeling black owned business is in vogue too.  Perhaps part of the reason we are here right now is this backwards world we live in and the fact that over 20 million  more voters voted in 2020 then 2016.  Thats a large number, maybe we were not ready for a number like that.  I remember how popular Obama was in 08, I in fact voted for the dude.. Biden haha 16 million more votes then Obama in 2012.  So popular in fact he is guarded by 35 thousand Nasty guards so he doesnt get hugged to death..


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Cyans]
    #27153545 - 01/17/21 01:51 PM (3 years, 11 days ago)

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Just so we are on the same page is congress the good guys now? Did their approval rating rise from 10 percent? They didnt really mean to go to war in Iraq right, just bad info? do we  still support sending our troops to fight in the far away deserts again? On that note our tech oligarchs really arent that bad unless they allow scary words on the internet, cant have that. The mainstream media is now a beacon of truth.  Labeling black owned business is in vogue too.  Perhaps part of the reason we are here right now is this backwards world we live in and the fact that over 20 million  more voters voted in 2020 then 2016.  Thats a large number, maybe we were not ready for a number like that.  I remember how popular Obama was in 08, I in fact voted for the dude.. Biden haha 16 million more votes then Obama in 2012.  So popular in fact he is guarded by 35 thousand Nasty guards so he doesnt get hugged to death..





Congress can no longer be criticized now that they were victimized by those evil white supremacists, despite having a far lower approval rating than even Trump himself. Didn't you get the memo?

If you question the state now you're not only a white supremacist, but a domestic terrorist as well!

And if you disagree with that then you're a Nazi who hates America.

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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods]
    #27153592 - 01/17/21 02:15 PM (3 years, 11 days ago)

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There is absolutely no motivation for a pardoned person to cooperate with law enforcement




It's not about their motivation to cooperate. It's about their loss of legal rights if they are required to testify.

https://time.com/4868418/donald-trump-presidential-pardons-backfire/

This one here is a different angle. It argues that the pardons in themselves constitute obstruction.

https://wallstreetrebel.com/wsr/articles/trumps_pardons_will_make_prosecuting_him_family_easier/2020-12-27-18-47-08.html


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: TheStallionMang] * 1
    #27153738 - 01/17/21 03:32 PM (3 years, 11 days ago)

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The amount of entitlement and lack of personal responsibility for their actions that white people feel just because they are clearly ignorant and delusional is really reaching a crescendo 

Realtor who flew in private jet to storm Capitol Hill publicly begs Trump for pardon

Quote:

trump's cronies said:
but papa trump told us to!!!:cryaboutit:








My favorite was the girl crying about how she got maced while saying "It was a revolution!" :lol:


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Ran-D] * 1
    #27153745 - 01/17/21 03:35 PM (3 years, 11 days ago)

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Ran-D said:
Quote:

TheStallionMang said:
The amount of entitlement and lack of personal responsibility for their actions that white people feel just because they are clearly ignorant and delusional is really reaching a crescendo 

Realtor who flew in private jet to storm Capitol Hill publicly begs Trump for pardon

Quote:

trump's cronies said:
but papa trump told us to!!!:cryaboutit:








My favorite was the girl crying about how she got maced while saying "It was a revolution!" :lol:




Was that the one that was clearly holding a sliced onion in her hand?


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Kryptos]
    #27153753 - 01/17/21 03:38 PM (3 years, 11 days ago)

Is that what she's rubbing in her eyes?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1346919171595137025


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Cyans] * 5
    #27153759 - 01/17/21 03:40 PM (3 years, 11 days ago)

Congress are mostly scum. The Trump insurrectionists who stormed the Capitol are worse than scum. They should be deported to some country they aren't even from, like we do all the time to people, and replaced by hardworking immigrants who don't try to lynch their elected representatives in an attempt to install fascism.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Ran-D]
    #27153770 - 01/17/21 03:46 PM (3 years, 11 days ago)

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Is that what she's rubbing in her eyes?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1346919171595137025




Yeah, look at the first two seconds of the video, she's holding an onion in her towel.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Kryptos]
    #27153791 - 01/17/21 04:00 PM (3 years, 11 days ago)

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Ran-D said:
Is that what she's rubbing in her eyes?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1346919171595137025




Yeah, look at the first two seconds of the video, she's holding an onion in her towel.




I thought this was interesting.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/elizabeth-knoxville-onion-towel/


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #27153810 - 01/17/21 04:12 PM (3 years, 11 days ago)

No way she took a full blast from some cs and/or teargas while storming the castle.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #27153811 - 01/17/21 04:12 PM (3 years, 11 days ago)

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Congress are mostly scum. The Trump insurrectionists who stormed the Capitol are worse than scum. They should be deported to some country they aren't even from, like we do all the time to people, and replaced by hardworking immigrants who don't try to lynch their elected representatives in an attempt to install fascism.




You know what? I think this was out of line.it isn't fair to export our dangerous terrorists. We have plenty of small island territories. Just eminent domain everyone off of one for an exorbitant price and dump the nazis there. Blockade that shit forever and let them have their white ethnostate utopia to themselves. Eventually start selling safari tours from armored jeeps to see primitive dumbshits in their native habitat.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #27153814 - 01/17/21 04:14 PM (3 years, 11 days ago)

I'm applying a bit of Occam's Razor:

Where did the onion come from? Either (a) she was expecting tear gas, in which case it's logical to assume she googled it and came up with the more or less standard 2-liter bottle cut in half solution that was popular during BLM protests before she came up with a method used by Palestinians during the 80s, or (b) she brought an onion with her and found a reporter.

There is no proof either way. Maybe she was grocery shopping and found herself in the middle of a riot, and decided to join in. Maybe some other misinformed asshole gave her an onion. But considering that jamming an onion into your eyes is basically the organic way of tear gassing yourself, that seems to be a likelier explanation.

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No way she took a full blast from some cs and/or teargas while storming the castle.




There is also that: CS and tear gas are pretty damn strong irritants. If she got gassed, she'd have a lot more mucus coming out of everywhere and flushing of the skin. Considering the video was taken roughly an hour after lawmakers were instructed to put on gas masks in preparation for tear gas (~2:30 pm) starting from the rotunda, she managed to make it from the front lines to the back and get medical attention, plus mostly recover, within an hour. And maybe that's exactly what happened.

Or she onioned herself.

Either way, I hope The Onion writes a story on this.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Kryptos]
    #27153829 - 01/17/21 04:26 PM (3 years, 11 days ago)

I got 20 year old  CS'ed cammies that will still make your orifice(s) burn.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Enlil]
    #27153869 - 01/17/21 04:47 PM (3 years, 11 days ago)

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Why are they holding Buffalo Head Dude, and not Zip-Tie Guy?



He was indicted on felony charges, first of all.  Second, he was deemed a flight risk and danger to the community.  The minute order reads, in relevant part:

Quote:

Defendant ordered detained pending further proceedings as a serious flight risk, a serious risk of obstructing justice, and danger to the community.




Let's not forget that Jake Anjeli was armed.

Edit: I just read the government's brief, and it appears Anjeli said he would return for inauguration. I'm sure that's where the "danger to the community" part comes from.  Also, there's a lot in there about his flight risk based on his mental health, drug problems, employment status and history, etc.  That dude was apparently all fucked up (if you couldn't tell by the face paint and the horns.)




I think a LOT of the people who stormed the capital were on drugs and/or drug addicts. That guy with his work badge still on probably came home from work the previous day, shot up some heroin, crashed, woke up with his work badge still on, shot up a little bit of h when he woke up so he wouldn't get sick, then went to the capital.

This guy is definitely a heroin addict. You can see it in the eyes.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol *DELETED* [Re: ballsalsa] * 3
    #27153916 - 01/17/21 05:20 PM (3 years, 11 days ago)

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Reason for deletion: Keep the election fraud bullshit in the conspiracy forum.


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