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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Sulfurshelfsean] * 1
    #27149969 - 01/15/21 03:44 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

Nah, he's just really good at selectively picking out the information he sees and the information he doesn't see.

Like how he started a whole thread about "political censorship" in which he firmly reiterates that he thinks incitement of violence should be banned, but doesn;t seem to realize that the recent social media bans of right wing personalities is entirely rooted in their continuous incitement of violence.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #27149971 - 01/15/21 03:44 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

An Inside Job: The Alarming Parallels Between Harvey Milk's Murder and Politicians Bringing Guns into Congress

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It was Monday, November 27, 1978 when Dan White brought a gun to San Francisco City Hall and shot his colleagues, Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk. Now, nearly fifty years later, Republicans in Congress are refusing to pass through metal detectors so that they can bring their guns to work. How are we back at this place in history again?








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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods] * 1
    #27149974 - 01/15/21 03:46 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

Like I said earlier, we might be looking at the first congressional mass shooting in the next few years.

Well, at minimum, we might get some sort of gun reform after that.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #27149979 - 01/15/21 03:47 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

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100% about him, his ego and his bank account.

Donald trump is the most self serving person in America.

Most people realized this decades ago its amazing some people still haven’t figured it out



Most of them are juat turning a blind eye to it. I know people who hated him as a person up until he ran for president. A cousin of mine who works in NYC used to talk about how everyone he knows whos worked in trump projects has gotten ripped off. Now he loves the guy. Still brings up how trump ripped his union off though. They just care about their team winning at this point




There’s a reason nobody took Donald trump seriously when he announced running for president. Most people have considered him a laughingstock, buffoon and a business failure for a long time. He was seen as a joke. What was shocking was that there was a segment of society that were so clueless about what was obvious to most of the world.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods]
    #27149983 - 01/15/21 03:50 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

I dont know if that's true though. It seems like most of them just didnt care who won so long as it was a Republican. Thats just an opinion though.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Kryptos]
    #27149985 - 01/15/21 03:50 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

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Like I said earlier, we might be looking at the first congressional mass shooting in the next few years.

Well, at minimum, we might get some sort of gun reform after that.




They should let Dianne Feinstein make the announcement when it happens just for old times sake


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #27149986 - 01/15/21 03:51 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

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I dont know if that's true though. It seems like most of them just didnt care who won so long as it was a Republican. Thats just an opinion though.



There were plenty of other republicans running


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods]
    #27149995 - 01/15/21 03:53 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

But none of them were talking about building a wall or otherwise race baiting as hard. He told then everything they wanted to hear. If he lost they would all just file behind the next guy.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #27149997 - 01/15/21 03:53 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

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I dont know if that's true though. It seems like most of them just didnt care who won so long as it was a Republican. Thats just an opinion though.




That's not mutually exclusive with being totally oblivious.

Then again:



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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #27150002 - 01/15/21 03:56 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

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I dont know if that's true though. It seems like most of them just didnt care who won so long as it was a Republican. Thats just an opinion though.



It also seems like a lot of them were happy that a politician was finally brazen enough to speak negatively about Muslims, Mexican immigrants, disabled people, and poorer countries. He was the voice of a large group of people who were sick and tired of being told that their bigoted worldviews were "not PC".


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Brian Jones] * 2
    #27150005 - 01/15/21 03:57 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

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Yes. Unity is overrated, and I don't want to join with the deplorable half of Republican voters, and a also not a certain portion of Dem voters. I do want to reestablish our traditional alliances that Trump poisoned. I fully understand that puts me in lockstep with the neoliberal war machine, but what's the alternative? China is getting stronger every day, the only major country with economic growth during corona. Then there's Russia, Iran, Pakistan, etc. IDK, we are in decline. It's better to have allies than not.




One thing trump got right is questioning the current order. Why do we need to pretend we’re on the verge of war with Russia or China? Beyond making a shit ton of money for the defense industry and guaranteeing a police state? China depends on our consumers and we depend on their laborers. An actual war at this point helps no one, but solidarity beyond national borders is dangerous so we need to keep at each others’ throats.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods]
    #27150018 - 01/15/21 04:05 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

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100% about him, his ego and his bank account.

Donald trump is the most self serving person in America.

Most people realized this decades ago its amazing some people still haven’t figured it out



Most of them are juat turning a blind eye to it. I know people who hated him as a person up until he ran for president. A cousin of mine who works in NYC used to talk about how everyone he knows whos worked in trump projects has gotten ripped off. Now he loves the guy. Still brings up how trump ripped his union off though. They just care about their team winning at this point




There’s a reason nobody took Donald trump seriously when he announced running for president. Most people have considered him a laughingstock, buffoon and a business failure for a long time. He was seen as a joke. What was shocking was that there was a segment of society that were so clueless about what was obvious to most of the world.



He played a successful businessman on tv, so that got some people confused.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Nonagon Infinity] * 1
    #27150021 - 01/15/21 04:07 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

All the information anyone needed about Donald Trump was known before 2016. But before 2016 it was easy to avoid being ripped off by Donald trump: don’t work for him or patronize whatever businesses he hadn’t yet bankrupted. Yet, because millions of low information, Low intelligence voters everyone has suffered through his incompetence.

Hillary campaigned in front of a bankrupt trump casino. Now all of downtown DC is boarded up like one of his failed businesses.





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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods]
    #27150028 - 01/15/21 04:15 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

I think the “brilliant businessman” descriptor is far down the list of why people gravitated towards him. The businessman thing was just an excuse for anyone who asked “why trump?”


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27150034 - 01/15/21 04:21 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

I don't, actually. Trump's constant need for attention has made him synonymous with "good business" in pop culture. Hell, even Avon Barksdale called himself and Stringer Bell the "Trump brothers" in The Wire.

There are a large number of low information voters. That includes lack of information about his racism. But everyone has seen Home Alone 2.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27150035 - 01/15/21 04:22 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

With all the pictures of this guy, I just noticed for the first time that he’s armed with a fucking spear



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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods]
    #27150038 - 01/15/21 04:24 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

Good, another criminal charge. Imagine if Obama peeps came with a spear, thats Jihad.


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27150071 - 01/15/21 04:38 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

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I think the “brilliant businessman” descriptor is far down the list of why people gravitated towards him. The businessman thing was just an excuse for anyone who asked “why trump?”



Thats the number one reason my boss says trump makes a good president. Same with most people ive worked for. Maybe its juat to cover their racism, but most of them are pretty openly racist.


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: koods] * 1
    #27150073 - 01/15/21 04:39 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

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With all the pictures of this guy, I just noticed for the first time that he’s armed with a fucking spear





Exactly how I pictured meltdowner storming the Capitol


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Re: Trump acolytes storm the Capitol [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #27150079 - 01/15/21 04:40 PM (3 years, 13 days ago)

No, I heard that one a lot too- "finally, someone will run this country like a business" :rolleyes:


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