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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: The Thing] * 1
    #27142523 - 01/11/21 06:27 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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I thought fire extinguishers were supposed to save lives.



Seems like it's not the first time someone was killed with a fire extinguisher.

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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: psi]
    #27142568 - 01/11/21 07:12 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Is it weird that the government is announcing/advertising the "armed protests in all 50 states"?

Wouldn't that just encourage more people to show up?


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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #27142615 - 01/11/21 07:44 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

No, it's letting the people know that the Government will also be there and armed


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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #27142627 - 01/11/21 08:00 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Well there has been stuff floating about on the net indicating that disgruntled people might act this way, so it's good that the general public is warned so they don't get caught up in it when they get met with force.

I'm disappointed to be seeing insurrection being labelled as terrorism though. That's an antagonistic lie. At the Washington Capitol building rioters did not bomb, burn or shoot. They forced their way in, somehow thinking that things would be better for them if they made this futile stand against a government change they don't want. That's not terrorism, the objective was not to cause fear and harm to people and property without regard. Mislead and stupid certainly, but not evil.

The Xmas day bombing, that's terrorism.


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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: Northerner] * 2
    #27142631 - 01/11/21 08:09 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Didn't their actions terrorize the politicians they were trying to influence to overturn the election?


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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: psi]
    #27142632 - 01/11/21 08:12 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

im sure that the people who caused the most chaos will get away cause theyre cia


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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #27142643 - 01/11/21 08:21 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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I'm disappointed to be seeing insurrection being labelled as terrorism though. 





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ter·ror·ism
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noun
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.






Look at the EXACT definition of Terrorism. Your idea of what terrorism is, is wrong.



What happened WAS terrorism. WORD FOR WORD


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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #27142660 - 01/11/21 08:32 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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Well there has been stuff floating about on the net indicating that disgruntled people might act this way, so it's good that the general public is warned so they don't get caught up in it when they get met with force.

I'm disappointed to be seeing insurrection being labelled as terrorism though. That's an antagonistic lie. At the Washington Capitol building rioters did not bomb, burn or shoot. They forced their way in, somehow thinking that things would be better for them if they made this futile stand against a government change they don't want. That's not terrorism, the objective was not to cause fear and harm to people and property without regard. Mislead and stupid certainly, but not evil.

The Xmas day bombing, that's terrorism.




They were chanting hang Mike Pence and erected a gallow, if they came across a congress member they probably would have killed them like the cop


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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: gopher]
    #27142676 - 01/11/21 08:40 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

It’s a fair assumption to believe the people who said they would storm the Capitol and then did would kill the Vice President after saying they would


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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: psi]
    #27142678 - 01/11/21 08:42 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Insurrection

a violent uprising against an authority or government

Much closer to the truth of the matter. Especially with the warnings that have been coming from the news, it may actually escalate. Insurrectionists target government buildings and have a specific issue with that building, they aren't hurting random people going to work on the subway, having a bike race, going to work in a building, just to prove a point.

Don't make language a game of semantics to fit your narrative. Have you ever in all of history up to this point heard of a disillusioned group of people who were noisy and broke some doors and windows being called terrorists before? Are you saying every politically motivated riot is a terrorist event. C'mon. That doesn't wash.


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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: Northerner]
    #27142685 - 01/11/21 08:48 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Yeah insurrection is the term I'd be more likely to use. We might have seen a much clearer example of terrorism if they had reached the politicians though. Who knows.

I don't think it should be brushed off like any old riot though, they came into the country's seat of power and tried to overturn due process by intimidation.


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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: psi] * 1
    #27142698 - 01/11/21 08:56 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Donald Trump attacked Mike Pence in a tweet as the insurrection was commencing. The crowd repeatedly chanted “hang mike pence.” Is mike pence not invoking the 25th ammendment because he’s a loyal sucker, or is his not doing it because he doesn’t want to get murdered? If any part of his rationale or if any congress person will not vote to impeach because they fear what may happen, then what happened was also terrorism.

There are politicians who are going on TV and saying he should just be left to serve out the last week of his term to not inflame tensions. There are online posts threatening more violence if Trump is removed from office. These are terroristic actions and threats.


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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: koods] * 2
    #27142705 - 01/11/21 09:04 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Yeah this is not just "boys will be boys" business as usual protest stuff, these are the kinds of tactics by which democracies get overthrown. The widespread false belief that the election was stolen is dangerous and many of the people who believe it are well armed. It's not something to brush off as no big deal.


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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: koods] * 3
    #27142706 - 01/11/21 09:04 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

The extreme deference given to these terrorists by the police is exemplary of how deeply rooted white supremacy and racism is in America.


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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: Hikeadellic]
    #27142707 - 01/11/21 09:06 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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Well I'd say that most of those people are fed up with being stuck inside for the last 10 months and wanted to show the government how pissed they are




These are probably not the people following any type of orders.


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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: ohcrapitsnico] * 1
    #27142714 - 01/11/21 09:10 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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The extreme deference given to these terrorists by the police is exemplary of how deeply rooted white supremacy and racism is in America.




They literally used a black police officer to lure the mob away from where members of congress were hiding.


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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #27142723 - 01/11/21 09:13 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

It's crazy to see how surprised some of these people were to get any backlash from the cops. But we're pro-cop and "patriots!" We're not the people who the cops are supposed to beat down!


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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: koods] * 2
    #27142725 - 01/11/21 09:15 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Officer Goodman may have saved the country, people say for a split second he was going to try and put himself in front of the door, but when he saw more of the mob coming upstairs, he changed tactics and pushed the leader and ran down the other way, herded the MAGA's like sheep

he is ex-military too


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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: koods]
    #27142729 - 01/11/21 09:15 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

It's certainly serious.

They didn't take weapons off the security and actually attack in WA though, which they could have so easily have done. If their actual intention was to eliminate the politicians within the security detail would not have been significant enough to stop them. Seemed mostly like dumbass sheep wandering around chanting slogans and following other sheep. I bet there were some evil fuckers among them who would have loved to let blood, but the crowd certainly did not seem truly angry or violent. Just stupid.

Hope that these latest threats turn out to be mostly bullshit as well, just internet incitement and bravado. Bringing guns to protests always ends badly.  :sad:


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Re: Senate currently being evacuated as protestors storm the capitol [Re: psi]
    #27142731 - 01/11/21 09:18 PM (3 years, 16 days ago)

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It's crazy to see how surprised some of these people were to get any backlash from the cops. But we're pro-cop and "patriots!" We're not the people who the cops are supposed to beat down!




I think they decided not to arrest these people inside the building is because the ones that were armed would be facing serious, mandatory prison sentences.


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