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Question: is there any...
#27129090 - 01/05/21 07:07 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is there any sense to the idea that Trump may start a war with Iran, under the belief that presidents can't be switched while a war is unfolding? or is the idea just a bad dream?
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Re: Question: is there any... [Re: laughingdog]
#27129094 - 01/05/21 07:09 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Trump's been trying to start a war with Iran since 2018, Iran hasn't taken the bait yet.
At this point, the question is whether the DoD is willing to start indiscriminately bombing Iran in the last two weeks of Trump's term. I'd say there's a 50/50 chance that happens.
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Re: Question: is there any... [Re: laughingdog]
#27129104 - 01/05/21 07:14 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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laughingdog said: Is there any sense to the idea that Trump may start a war with Iran, under the belief that presidents can't be switched while a war is unfolding? or is the idea just a bad dream?
The president’s term ends at noon on January 20. That is mandated in the constitution.
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Re: Question: is there any... [Re: koods]
#27129213 - 01/05/21 08:16 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Question: is there any... [Re: laughingdog]
#27129237 - 01/05/21 08:37 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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The saber rattling from Iran just came out "finger on the trigger". They are trying to position themselves a priorty for Biden Admin. They themselves have a proxy war in Yemen.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/news/defence/iran-tests-drones-in-military-exercise/amp_articleshow/80116594.cms
DUBAI: Iran launched exercises featuring a wide array of domestically produced drones on Tuesday, Iranian media reported, days after the anniversary of the U.S. killing of a top Iranian general by a drone strike in Iraq.
Iran and the regional forces it backs have increasingly relied in recent years on drones in Yemen, Syria, Iraq and the Strait of Hormuz at the mouth of the Gulf.
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Re: Question: is there any... [Re: SirTripAlot]
#27129254 - 01/05/21 08:44 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Drones are the future of combat. Of course they would invest in drones. Especially considering that Iran's military strength right now lies primarily in missiles.
The US will likely end up going to war against Iran at some point in the near future anyway. Between our friends Israel and Saudi Arabia, it's almost guaranteed. Probably during the next republican administration, considering they'll need to placate the evangelical vote, and that means doing whatever Israel wants.
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Re: Question: is there any... [Re: Kryptos] 1
#27129261 - 01/05/21 08:47 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kryptos said: Trump's been trying to start a war with Iran since 2018, Iran hasn't taken the bait yet.
At this point, the question is whether the DoD is willing to start indiscriminately bombing Iran in the last two weeks of Trump's term. I'd say there's a 50/50 chance that happens.
Correction: Trump's advisors tried to get Trump to start a war with Iran, and he almost took the bait, but ultimately decided against it.
If Trump wanted to start a war, he would have retaliated militarily when the Iranians bombed the US Airbase after the assassination of Soleimani.
But he didn't, because Trump, and very rightly so feared going to war.
John Bolton literally resigned because Trump refused to let the war with Iran go hot.
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Re: Question: is there any... [Re: chopstick] 1
#27129264 - 01/05/21 08:49 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Correction: You're wrong.
That is all.
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Re: Question: is there any... [Re: Kryptos]
#27129280 - 01/05/21 08:57 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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On this world. Space will be the future of combat. Another branch added to the US military, its not just for breakfast anymore.
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Re: Question: is there any... [Re: Kryptos] 1
#27129286 - 01/05/21 08:59 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice argument there, bruv.
Trump literally had multiple opportunities to start a war with Iran. There were probably about a half-dozen instances in which he had enough political cover to order military strikes on Iran.
But he didn't, even though he could have.
That should tell you something.
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Re: Question: is there any... [Re: SirTripAlot]
#27129290 - 01/05/21 09:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Someone broadcast a message on a restricted air traffic control frequency saying Iran was going to attack congress during tomorrow’s joint session
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Re: Question: is there any... [Re: chopstick]
#27129291 - 01/05/21 09:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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chopstick said: Nice argument there, bruv.
Trump literally had multiple opportunities to start a war with Iran. There were probably about a half-dozen instances in which he had enough political cover to order military strikes on Iran.
But he didn't, even though he could have.
That should tell you something.
He certainly got us closer than anyone since Reagan.
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Re: Question: is there any... [Re: koods]
#27129797 - 01/06/21 06:51 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: Someone broadcast a message on a restricted air traffic control frequency saying Iran was going to attack congress during tomorrow’s joint session
See the analogy of Pence being a penny in the "last will be first" in the reading of the electoral count? And if the "first will be last" what is Trump capable of in the final moment to stay in power?
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Re: Question: is there any... [Re: Kryptos]
#27132480 - 01/07/21 09:13 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kryptos said: Correction: You're wrong.
That is all.
You can pretty much go with the opposite of whatever chopstick says is accurate.
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Re: Question: is there any... [Re: Brian Jones] 1
#27132510 - 01/07/21 09:34 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Brian Jones said:
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Kryptos said: Correction: You're wrong.
That is all.
You can pretty much go with the opposite of whatever chopstick says is accurate.
Everything I've stated in this thread is 100% factual. Feel free to try and provide a counter-argument. Oh that's right.. you can't.
Trump literally had the perfect cover to attack Iran when they bombed the US Airbase. It was the perfect moment to go to war.
He didn't.
But somehow I'm wrong?
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Re: Question: is there any... [Re: chopstick]
#27132512 - 01/07/21 09:35 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shroomery in a nutshell: MUH ORANGE MAN BAD ANYONE WHO DEFENDS HIM IS WRONG NO MATTER WHAT, FACTS DON'T MATTER, ONLY OUR FEELINGS MATTER
We've devolved to a fucking gradeschool level of discourse.
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#27132526 - 01/07/21 09:44 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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There are plenty of perfectly mature discussions here. On several occasions we have asked you to come to the table and discuss with us, you however have been unwilling.
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Re: Question: is there any... [Re: christopera]
#27132547 - 01/07/21 09:54 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have personality tried several times. He's one of those guys that makes claims and then says, "go look it up" when asked for sources.
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Re: Question: is there any... [Re: chopstick]
#27132854 - 01/07/21 12:35 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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chopstick said: Trump literally had the perfect cover to attack Iran when they bombed the US Airbase. It was the perfect moment to go to war.
Nice little twist you put on that. It was more like, after Trump agreed to murder Soleimani, Iran responded, then Trump backed down. There's a difference.
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Yes, my point exactly is that Trump backed down. There was no more of a perfect moment to go to war than when Iran literally bombed a US airbase with US troops present. He had all the political cover he needed in that moment to start a war with Iran by ordering a retaliatory strike.
But he didn't. He backed down. Which is literally my point exactly.
Thanks for making my point clear.
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