Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Mix   North Spore Bulk Substrate

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]
OfflineGypsy Boy
Redeemer
Male


Registered: 03/17/17
Posts: 4,501
Loc: Deep in the discoteka
Last seen: 3 months, 13 days
The most simplest casing method?
    #27128262 - 01/05/21 01:22 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

100s of guides all 4 advanced user.

Whats the easiest way to case?


1. Dump colonised grain into sandwich box.
2. Cover sides with aluminium foil so no light gets in.
3. Sprinkle vermiculite with oyster shells on top.
4. Put in a humid environment and fruit.

Eh?


--------------------





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemushhead
Potato Devourer
I'm a teapot


Registered: 08/22/14
Posts: 2,218
Loc: Dimension H-231
Re: The most simplest casing method? [Re: Gypsy Boy] * 1
    #27128273 - 01/05/21 01:27 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Honestly if you're having issues with casings, just use a pseudo casing of Coir/Verm.
Same as your substrate, just add a layer of it thick enough to hold in moisture.
Sure it'll get colonized eventually, but It's simple, and works well.
If you want to do a proper casing you can use a combination of peat, verm, lime, gypsum.
Or you could go simple again and just use hydrated Verm as a casing.
EDIT: Also this depends on the kind of variety you're growing as well. Certain psilocybes needs specific casing/conditions.


Edited by mushhead (01/05/21 01:31 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineGypsy Boy
Redeemer
Male


Registered: 03/17/17
Posts: 4,501
Loc: Deep in the discoteka
Last seen: 3 months, 13 days
Re: The most simplest casing method? [Re: mushhead]
    #27128293 - 01/05/21 01:33 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Or you could go simple again and just use hydrated Verm as a casing.




So what im asking: put verm in the bottom, grain on top, verm on top, and it should work?


--------------------





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineGypsy Boy
Redeemer
Male


Registered: 03/17/17
Posts: 4,501
Loc: Deep in the discoteka
Last seen: 3 months, 13 days
Re: The most simplest casing method? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27128296 - 01/05/21 01:35 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/13871/Casing

These casing teks suck, i really dont want to mess with peat...

As for oysteer shells they sell "chicken" grade on amazon, is that the same?


--------------------





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemushhead
Potato Devourer
I'm a teapot


Registered: 08/22/14
Posts: 2,218
Loc: Dimension H-231
Re: The most simplest casing method? [Re: Gypsy Boy] * 1
    #27128328 - 01/05/21 01:46 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I'm at a loss here Gypsy Boy. I don't know the set up you're working with.
If you don't plan on using substrate and just tossing your grain into a box, you should just put a casing layer ontop of it.
But you want it to be able to hold moisture, which is why we use a coir/verm substrate with a peat/verm/lime casing.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineGypsy Boy
Redeemer
Male


Registered: 03/17/17
Posts: 4,501
Loc: Deep in the discoteka
Last seen: 3 months, 13 days
Re: The most simplest casing method? [Re: mushhead]
    #27128360 - 01/05/21 01:56 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

If you don't plan on using substrate a




Of course im planning on using colonised substrate.

Im asking if i can "sandwich" it between wet verm in a tab


--------------------





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemushhead
Potato Devourer
I'm a teapot


Registered: 08/22/14
Posts: 2,218
Loc: Dimension H-231
Re: The most simplest casing method? [Re: Gypsy Boy] * 1
    #27128367 - 01/05/21 02:01 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Oh! Right, No don't be doing that, just use a casing layer on the top of your substrate.
Doesn't need to be sandwiched or anything.
Lemme get you an example pic.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemushhead
Potato Devourer
I'm a teapot


Registered: 08/22/14
Posts: 2,218
Loc: Dimension H-231
Re: The most simplest casing method? [Re: mushhead] * 1
    #27128378 - 01/05/21 02:05 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)


Now this is a peat, verm, lime, gypsum casing.
But the example is that you don't sandwich it.
You can clearly see the myc and the casing layer.
This casing layer is actually too thick tbh, and the psilocybe in there is ATL7.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinecronicrFacebook
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 61,436
Loc: Van Isle Flag
Last seen: 2 years, 26 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: The most simplest casing method? [Re: mushhead] * 2
    #27128383 - 01/05/21 02:06 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

grab some coir and some verm, toss it in a bucket and pour boiling water on it


--------------------

It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn

I'm tired do me a favor


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineGypsy Boy
Redeemer
Male


Registered: 03/17/17
Posts: 4,501
Loc: Deep in the discoteka
Last seen: 3 months, 13 days
Re: The most simplest casing method? [Re: mushhead]
    #27128388 - 01/05/21 02:08 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

mushhead said:

Now this is a peat, verm, lime, gypsum casing.
But the example is that you don't sandwich it.
You can clearly see the myc and the casing layer.
This casing layer is actually too thick tbh, and the psilocybe in there is ATL7.





I hear ya, thanks for help bruh


--------------------





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblemushhead
Potato Devourer
I'm a teapot


Registered: 08/22/14
Posts: 2,218
Loc: Dimension H-231
Re: The most simplest casing method? [Re: cronicr] * 1
    #27128397 - 01/05/21 02:11 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

cronicr said:
grab some coir and some verm, toss it in a bucket and pour boiling water on it



:whathesaid:
Bucket tek that coir/verm and it'll be just as good as any casing for cubes.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineGypsy Boy
Redeemer
Male


Registered: 03/17/17
Posts: 4,501
Loc: Deep in the discoteka
Last seen: 3 months, 13 days
Re: The most simplest casing method? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27128398 - 01/05/21 02:11 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

I really dont want to mess with peat. What should i add to verm to improve yields? lime? Oyster shells??


--------------------





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinecronicrFacebook
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 61,436
Loc: Van Isle Flag
Last seen: 2 years, 26 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: The most simplest casing method? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27128401 - 01/05/21 02:12 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Gypsy Boy said:
Quote:

Or you could go simple again and just use hydrated Verm as a casing.




So what im asking: put verm in the bottom, grain on top, verm on top, and it should work?



yes that would work, but i would suggest adding coir (its 3 bucks for a brick) and verm to a bucket and mixing it with your grain then covering the top of the mix with a bit of left over material, cased grain is ok for a few mushrooms but the texture sucks with just grain and verm


--------------------

It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn

I'm tired do me a favor


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineGypsy Boy
Redeemer
Male


Registered: 03/17/17
Posts: 4,501
Loc: Deep in the discoteka
Last seen: 3 months, 13 days
Re: The most simplest casing method? [Re: cronicr]
    #27128404 - 01/05/21 02:14 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

ohh


--------------------





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineLogicaL ChaosM
Ascension Energy & Alien UFOs
Male User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 05/12/07
Posts: 69,599
Loc: The Inexpressible... Flag
Last seen: 3 hours, 8 minutes
Trusted Cultivator
Re: The most simplest casing method? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27128526 - 01/05/21 03:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Gypsy Boy said:
I really dont want to mess with peat. What should i add to verm to improve yields? lime? Oyster shells??




No one uses peat anymore. You could add coir to verm to improve yields.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSockadin
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/03/10
Posts: 7,244
Last seen: 3 months, 8 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: The most simplest casing method? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #27129075 - 01/05/21 06:58 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

So we still havent gotten to the point of what Species or Variety of Mushroom Gypsy Boy is planning on growing here. You can use peat , lime and oyster shells if you have a Kit from someone up in the north west.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineGypsy Boy
Redeemer
Male


Registered: 03/17/17
Posts: 4,501
Loc: Deep in the discoteka
Last seen: 3 months, 13 days
Re: The most simplest casing method? [Re: Sockadin]
    #27153194 - 01/17/21 10:38 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

Do we even NEED casing?????



:crankey:


--------------------





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offline0ptiquest
Stranger


Registered: 07/05/20
Posts: 509
Last seen: 6 days, 23 hours
Re: The most simplest casing method? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27153203 - 01/17/21 10:44 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

You should read some recent tek like this one that have good images and gifs.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26009662/

A top layer of coir is all that you need for cubes.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineGypsy Boy
Redeemer
Male


Registered: 03/17/17
Posts: 4,501
Loc: Deep in the discoteka
Last seen: 3 months, 13 days
Re: The most simplest casing method? [Re: 0ptiquest]
    #27153205 - 01/17/21 10:47 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

Coir? what about verm?


--------------------





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offline0ptiquest
Stranger


Registered: 07/05/20
Posts: 509
Last seen: 6 days, 23 hours
Re: The most simplest casing method? [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #27153210 - 01/17/21 10:50 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

If you have verm use it, but coir is all that you need if dont want to buy extra stuff.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]

Shop: PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Mix   North Spore Bulk Substrate


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* What is the best casing method and .... CaseXX 1,030 2 10/08/01 09:29 PM
by mew
* Is this a good casing method. Ska_mad_hatter 933 7 10/31/02 09:05 AM
by Ska_mad_hatter
* PLEASE HELP WITH SHROOM WIZARD'S CASING METHOD!!!? ERaSMuS 1,429 2 06/12/01 09:48 PM
by egolesss
* Best casing method for beginner? capoasis 2,417 9 11/19/02 06:13 PM
by ribbit
* Anybody here every try the Sea of Shrooms casing method? Gthirteens 1,723 7 01/07/03 01:28 PM
by Raadt
* Searching for new casing method sherminator 1,498 6 06/03/01 11:43 PM
by gratefulredhead
* favorite casing method noisycricket 2,367 14 08/13/02 02:51 PM
by PSILLYSIMON
* what is the best casing method for beginners? JunoCycle 2,511 10 02/07/03 08:59 AM
by Birdman

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
266 topic views. 23 members, 178 guests and 60 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.03 seconds spending 0.008 seconds on 14 queries.