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Check out my shoeboxes, please?
    #27126328 - 01/04/21 04:42 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

hey bros.

got 2 shoeboxes. everything seems to be goin ok, cept today I got home from work and pulled em out, and they were still pretty damp. I've only been misting when the coir turns light brown, and not too much, and I think I've been doin alright on that end.

all I smell is mushrooms. but stagnant water makes my butt pucker up when I see it.. and I don't wanna fucking blow it due to too much/over-care..

for now I've jimmied the tops, creating gaps at the corners for some FAE, hoping this will get rid of some extra moisture -- will that work??

pics ain't all that great, and yeah, most of the surface has a lovely dewy presence all over the myc.. there are some suuuuper small areas i can see some myc becoming sliiiiightly soggy, especially if it were to just stay as wet as it is now.

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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27126332 - 01/04/21 04:43 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

Conditions look excellent man good job!

Don't mist again for a while until some of the moisture evaporates.

You actually may not even need to mist that again until after the first flush.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27126336 - 01/04/21 04:44 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

All looks well, but 100% stop misting. You need to let the mushrooms absorb the water and let the coir dry out. That's where your excess moisture is coming from. Stop misting and leave the lids on. You really only need to mist big monos, and even then, not always.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: tiptrippy]
    #27126340 - 01/04/21 04:47 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

Yeah I don't know what you're talking about, all looks good. :cool:


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: Josex]
    #27126350 - 01/04/21 04:52 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

Okay!!

will NOT fucking mist again, wasnt even really planning on it either..

so, just to be clear --- forget any FAE for right now, keep going about my business, and ***even if the casing starts to get that lighter brown, and I'm not seeing any dew on the myc*** STILL do NOT mist?

thanks for the damn bullet-speed responses y'all.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27126353 - 01/04/21 04:54 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

Yep leave lid latched until fruits get tall enough to push it open. FAE happens through the imperfect lid.

If your sub us hydrated to field capacity that tub should maintain the moisture droplets through the first flush as long as you don't leave the lid off or have a fan pointed towards it.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: tiptrippy]
    #27126365 - 01/04/21 04:59 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

got it, thanks man.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: Josex]
    #27127287 - 01/05/21 01:58 AM (2 months, 1 day ago)

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Yeah I don't know what you're talking about, all looks good. :cool:




You mist shoeboxes?


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: ChardRich]
    #27127293 - 01/05/21 02:10 AM (2 months, 1 day ago)

the tek i followed called for slightly under field capacity coir, with a casing layer that gets basically 'soaked' on top, for lack of a better word that escapes me right now. after a day or so, my casing layer jus kept getting brighter and brighter brown, looking pretty thirsty, so I lightly misted here and there. at least, that's where I'm at..


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27127386 - 01/05/21 05:06 AM (2 months, 21 hours ago)

It is fine to mist shoeboxes if they need it. This is the art of Mush Cult, learning how to dial things in.

OP that box looks good. Just a side note, at this point the largest reason for cutting back on misting is triggering evaporation from the substrate surface. Once the substrate surface starts to loose a little moisture due to FAE it will trigger the mycelium produce to start producing mushrooms. Imagine a happy perfectly great environment for the mycelium and then all of a sudden the air starts to dry out. The mycelium response to the environmental change is the reproduce because of the environmental stress. So at this stage you want to back off on the misting and let it sit with the lid on and let the FAE do it's thing.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: Sockadin]
    #27128206 - 01/05/21 02:55 PM (2 months, 12 hours ago)

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It is fine to mist shoeboxes if they need it. This is the art of Mush Cult, learning how to dial things in.

OP that box looks good. Just a side note, at this point the largest reason for cutting back on misting is triggering evaporation from the substrate surface. Once the substrate surface starts to loose a little moisture due to FAE it will trigger the mycelium produce to start producing mushrooms. Imagine a happy perfectly great environment for the mycelium and then all of a sudden the air starts to dry out. The mycelium response to the environmental change is the reproduce because of the environmental stress. So at this stage you want to back off on the misting and let it sit with the lid on and let the FAE do it's thing.





brilliant. I did not know this. I love this shit, hah. thank you for that awesome description & explanation.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27128738 - 01/05/21 06:55 PM (2 months, 8 hours ago)

I come once again, seeking thine knowledge....



came home to these two shoeboxes ^^.

I haven't misted since y'all told me not to. I can see a fair amount of moisture scattered on the surface, and some clinging to the walls and lids, but they have also 'dried up' some too.

I guess I'm concerned about those brownish/yellowish spots.. metabolites? "myc piss", as they're calling it? something more sinister?? contam....? :frown:

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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27128769 - 01/05/21 07:07 PM (2 months, 7 hours ago)

My friend those spots you see are called primordia and they are the beginning of pins:jokerclap: you are on your way to a good harvest:cool:


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: EarthwormJim]
    #27128783 - 01/05/21 07:10 PM (2 months, 7 hours ago)

oh jeez. is it obvious I have no clue WTF I'm doin up to this point? LOL, wow.. ok

cool. hell yeah. hahah, thanks man.

God i feel dumb.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27128826 - 01/05/21 07:23 PM (2 months, 7 hours ago)

Lol no problem man, this is how you get a clue, by doing:goodluck:keep us posted on your grow


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: EarthwormJim]
    #27129620 - 01/06/21 04:43 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

sorry, real quick -- is there any reason to mist while the fruit is literally fruiting?  what should I be aspiring to see on the fruit, as far as their surfaces are concerned?

Quote:

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The mycelium response to the environmental change is the reproduce because of the environmental stress. So at this stage you want to back off on the misting and let it sit with the lid on and let the FAE do it's thing.




ok, awesome, so the fruits themselves should remain relatively dry? at least as far as a basic human eye can tell?

thanks !


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27131142 - 01/06/21 07:42 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

shamefully bumping..  :undecided:  [for ^^ those questions]


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27131195 - 01/06/21 07:58 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

you can mist while fruiting, but be careful because a lot of water on the caps can cause some discoloring or in worst cases affect development (it'll be fine just not as pretty). This happens to me sometimes when condensation falls off the lid.

usually the fruits themselves will help keep surface conditions good once they start filling in. If mushrooms are growing then it already has the conditions it wants to produce fruit so best not to fuck with it too much, but don't be afraid to give it a light mist if it looks dry(no water beading on the surface, like none at all or yellowing/bruising mycelium). Personally I'm on no-mist gang when it comes to shoeboxes but I live somewhere with high RH so people with dryer climates might need to every now and then. Ideally shoeboxes are entirely set and forget but we don't always live in an ideal world. But at any rate your shoeboxes look great, you've got some pins coming in and good surface conditions, just leave it be.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: Ballzagna]
    #27131230 - 01/06/21 08:10 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

:yoda2: MAN STRAT


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: IdiotCircusBoy]
    #27131592 - 01/06/21 10:10 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

thanks ballz. ya know, I read your post, then immediately your sig, and it's so perfect, that I thought it was all the same thing. but anyway yeah, totally tracking, thanks a lot.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27133641 - 01/07/21 08:29 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

dunno if these are good, bad, or ugly..



side pin action. there's a lot of this goin on.. :undecided:

 


look at this crazy asshole..








so, a lot of these surface pins have been relatively the sameish size for about 2 or 3 days..

I don't know why, maybe because I read it in threads here, but tbh I thought once you're pinning, it was supposed to be off to the races, and rather quickly, no?

I come home from work expecting to see them have taken off like boners, but I get slightly down when I see they haven't changed much.

something I could be doing differently? are these evidently gonna 'abort', or something similar?

do I need more chi mixed with patience?

thanks. thats all I got for now.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27134018 - 01/07/21 10:29 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

What is your lighting situation?


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: IdiotCircusBoy]
    #27134037 - 01/07/21 10:37 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

not sure if i missed it, but have you mentioned what variety you're growing? is it a PE variety by any chance?


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: TheBoJim]
    #27134082 - 01/07/21 11:06 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

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What is your lighting situation?




pretty strictly following a 12 on, 12 off sched. its the overhead light in my walkin closet, so im assuming its up to snuff.... its basically your standard room light type bulb. fuck.... I mean, I hope its sufficient.

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not sure if i missed it, but have you mentioned what variety you're growing? is it a PE variety by any chance?




you did not miss it sir, because in fact, I am not too sure. I got super fuckin lazy with the labeling while I just put my head down and focused on getting clean, healthy myc goin.

it could be B+, Amazonian, GT, or one other one, I'm not recalling at the moment. lol I'm sure it sounds like I'm not giving a fuck, but thats really not the truth - I was jus so damn obsessed and focused with hedging my bets by trying multiple varieties at once, doing it correctly/sterile, that I totally neglected keeping track of everything I was doing or being organized.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27134127 - 01/07/21 11:27 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

It's not important. If it's not PE, a cube is a cube.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27134134 - 01/07/21 11:34 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

ok, just looked at my prints. it is 100% one of these 4:

GT
B+
Ecuadorian
PES Amazonian....

so if it's PES Amazonian, is that a penis envy, or....

shit lol.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27134135 - 01/07/21 11:35 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

The reason I asked is because , and it can be just me seeing things, but it looks like he has some bloobage going on. I can’t really see definite pins, but do see what look like little blobs. I might be seeing things, idk.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: TheBoJim]
    #27134145 - 01/07/21 11:42 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

close up, they look like blobs. thats what I've been thinking for the past 3 days. that happens tho, right?  doesn't mean the whole shebang is shit right?  can't it still produce good fruit?

just looked. okay, its a fluorescent tube, 4100K..

just looked thru my place, all my bulbs are either 2700, or similar. do I need to go buy a 6500K jawn?


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27134157 - 01/08/21 12:04 AM (1 month, 29 days ago)

No not shit. Just what happens, I have the same thing on my BPE tubs, some worse then others. I believe a casing is recommended with a PE variety to prevent this.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27135648 - 01/08/21 06:10 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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just looked. okay, its a fluorescent tube, 4100K..
just looked thru my place, all my bulbs are either 2700, or similar. do I need to go buy a 6500K jawn?




I don't think it's do or die but I'd go pick up a CFL rated @6500K


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: IdiotCircusBoy]
    #27136122 - 01/08/21 09:24 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

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I don't think it's do or die but I'd go pick up a CFL rated @6500K




yes, good call man, I actually just did, so they're under good light now. man.... feel dumb I didn't even think to look at the rating of the light in there before/while I was starting all this shit. I hope it works out from here out, tho..


can someone tell me what this little fucker is in pic 1 and 2?



circled in red, they're very, very white. looks like something engulfed in myc, like from before when I was first colonizing before things got rhyzomorphic... wondering why its showing up that way, again just now.

lots of 'blobs' i guess.. I've been reading they're apparently ok?
some say they're super potent?  I'm good with it i guess. I just want ingestible product. don't care what the shit looks like. at least not for my first grow. I can nitpick later I figure.

some pins, tho!  so thats cool..


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27136165 - 01/08/21 09:48 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

The thing you circled looks like a piece of grain or something that just got eaten by the myc. I wouldn't worry but keep an eye on it.

Also I'm pretty sure you have B+ growing. Mutants are common but still healthy fruits. Nothing to worry about

Here's a pic from my last B+ tub
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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: tiptrippy]
    #27136178 - 01/08/21 09:56 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

ahhh i see it! hahaha, ok awesome, thank you brother.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27136431 - 01/08/21 11:25 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

Just wanna chime in with my limited experience. Looks like LOTS of mutants and slow growth of pins makes me edgy. Are you sure you hit field capacity with the sub? Squeezing AS HARD AS YOU CAN you only get a few drops not a stream?

Just asking because this is what my tubs looked like with over 1L too much water  :facepalm3:


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: verytastycheese]
    #27136738 - 01/09/21 04:17 AM (1 month, 27 days ago)

yeah I don't think that's the issue - I was slightly under field capacity.

I've been reading a lot of threads on blobs now that I'm faced with it. RR has been saying for over a decade it's mostly due to 2 things: overly nutritious substrate, and/or fruiting before full colonization. I believe it has something to do with certain varieties as well, or just that some are more prone to do the blob thing.

typically it'll blob-its-cock-off for the first flush, then once that's out of its system, it should be business as usual with the subsequent flushes.

some say it happens because of contams. I don't fucking know dude lol. shit's a little exhausting tbh. as long as they're ingestible, I'm good with it. I don't mind if the only issue is that they're fuckin fugly and nobody finds them attractive. it's what's on the innnside that counts, right?


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27136895 - 01/09/21 08:32 AM (1 month, 27 days ago)

Have you been misting this at all?

It seems like maybe the surface is too dry, but the sides look quite wet. On my last shoebox I had fruits 4 days after pins. As soon as pins showed up, I started opening up the shoebox twice a day and fanning it with the lid. I also rested the lid on top of the box instead of latching it on, just to get slightly more FAE. I didn't have to mist once - my substrate was wet enough that the surface stayed moist, and I barely got any side pins.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: joze]
    #27138524 - 01/09/21 11:14 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

no, I stopped misting when vets in this thread told me I should.. I guess about 4 or 5 days ago. I agree, the sides have stayed wet the whole time. there still is moisture on the surface, just not on the pins. the pins now are about an inch high, and their caps look pretty dark to me.. isn't this indicative of them aborting,  or something?


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27138550 - 01/09/21 11:22 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

are the caps supposed to be this dark? is this indicative that they'll soon stop growing and abort?

they've only been going about a 1/4, maybe  1/2 inch a day..

and fuck, I know I read the fuzziness is do to something I could fix.... can't friggin remember what it is....






then here's this little freakshow happening in the corner..


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27138583 - 01/09/21 11:37 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

Fuzziness is lack of FAE.
I still think the sub is too wet.

What's the source of your spawn? How many generations? It just looks way too similar to what I experienced back here:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26610167


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: verytastycheese]
    #27138593 - 01/09/21 11:40 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

from a print from a repped vendor. I think it's pes Amazonian. which sucks because they should be monstrous.


ok, so your advice would be to introduce more fae???


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27138602 - 01/09/21 11:47 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

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from a print from a repped vendor. I think it's pes Amazonian. which sucks because they should be monstrous.


ok, so your advice would be to introduce more fae???




Print to agar or DIY syringe to grain or g2g or ???

Yeah more FAE for the fuzz. But look at my thread. It was water content.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: verytastycheese]
    #27138620 - 01/09/21 11:58 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

sorry, yeah just straight print to agar. I was working with 4 different prints and more than 20 plates of agar. its all my first rodeo, so I was way more interested in doing things cleanly and correctly than 'who's who in the zoo', pertaining to labeling and whatnot....

after agar, pushed to oats for a few weeks. the myc looked strong af on the plates, then really weak and thinned out in the jars. as soon as I pushed to sub, which is just coir and a little bit of verm to soak up extra moisture, the myc took the fuck off again, like on the plates.

now here I am, trying to make sense of these shoes and do what I can to help them.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27139050 - 01/10/21 07:22 AM (1 month, 26 days ago)

Im gonna go out on a limb here and guess that these are B+ which has become bastardized over the last 6 years and has a bunch of crazy genetic variations.

  BTW sorry I missed the updates over the last 5 days. Please remember to take pictures before harvest. We all love pictures.


So I would (im gonna get shit for this) fan those boxes 1 time per day. The reason for the fuzzy feet can be a lack of FAE which should happen through the lids, but if it is in your closet and you dont have a lot of air circulation it can help to mix up things and just get a blast of fresh air during fruiting.


ALso those look pretty dope to me. Keep on doing what your doing!


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: Sockadin]
    #27139088 - 01/10/21 07:57 AM (1 month, 26 days ago)

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Im gonna go out on a limb here and guess that these are B+ which has become bastardized over the last 6 years and has a bunch of crazy genetic variations.

  BTW sorry I missed the updates over the last 5 days. Please remember to take pictures before harvest. We all love pictures.


So I would (im gonna get shit for this) fan those boxes 1 time per day. The reason for the fuzzy feet can be a lack of FAE which should happen through the lids, but if it is in your closet and you dont have a lot of air circulation it can help to mix up things and just get a blast of fresh air during fruiting.


ALso those look pretty dope to me. Keep on doing what your doing!





hey man, it's all good!  and, well, then we'll both get a little shit on this one -- for the past few hours I just had a little fan going, from the adjacent room, not directly pointed at them, but thru a little corridor that most certainly just kicked up and circulated the air in the closet and whatnot. I cocked the lids and opened a lot of doors also. I may not know shit about growing yet, but I definitely had a gut feeling that these boxes were breathing the same air for a while and wanted something fresh, so I went with it.

even though the caps are super dark, they still appear to be growing.. so I dunno. I wish I knew when they're considered 'done' and I'm supposed to yank em out. I guess my gut will tell me again. hah.

thanks for your advice btw. I'm with ya.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27142358 - 01/11/21 06:35 PM (1 month, 25 days ago)

hi.. these are some funky monkey mushrooms right here, my friends..



one of them is a full circle of stem, with a 'cap' meeting at the top -- like an oldschool engagement ring, and the cap is where the stone would be.

another, [one of the bigger numbers], has a fucking cap.. growing inside/on top of another cap. it's fucking with me mind.

LOL, are these safe to eat?


oh well, at any rate, thought y'all would like to see what I see. cheers.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27142375 - 01/11/21 06:43 PM (1 month, 25 days ago)

Yea they look a bit mutated and stunted, bacteria may have had something to do.




The shroom in the upper left corner with the weird cap? In the past I used to think those deformities were caused by water damage (and it may be on some occasions) but these days I'm leaning more on bacterial spawn being the culprit.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: Josex]
    #27142379 - 01/11/21 06:46 PM (1 month, 25 days ago)

thanks for the heads up, would you consider them still safe to ingest, once they're dried out?


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27142383 - 01/11/21 06:47 PM (1 month, 25 days ago)

Of cours, eat them. I meant bacterial spawn anyway, not bacteria on them shrooms.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: Josex]
    #27142657 - 01/11/21 10:28 PM (1 month, 25 days ago)

Awesome man, nice to see you getting fruit!


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: Grenik]
    #27142751 - 01/11/21 11:32 PM (1 month, 25 days ago)

thanks dude....

is this normal..??



it's typically at like, junction points, I guess. to me, it looks kinda blue, like light bruising / roughed up material....


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27143026 - 01/12/21 03:13 AM (1 month, 24 days ago)

yeah.. so here it is, showing up more and more....



it looks blueish to me, but maybe because I don't wanna accept this as bad news....

are my shoeboxes just utterly fucked now?


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27144191 - 01/12/21 06:41 PM (1 month, 24 days ago)

I was waiting for someone else to weigh in...but you are almost certain to get product that you can take a spore print from, clone from, and dry and consume. Now you are really just playing for what sort of yield will you get and how many flushes.

Nothing you have done since you made the shoebox is sterile and you will eventually grow bacteria and all sorts of other crap. You controlled the conditions to favor mushroom growth, but other stuff will happen.

I have had boxes where half the box was blue crap and the other half had mushrooms (second flush). The mushrooms were fine that grew and nobody got sick consuming them. The box next to it made three OK flushes (none of mine are over 150 grams wet per flush yet).

I am not as experienced but that picture looks like a day or two from harvest (hard to see how tall they are). They will start opening and you harvest (or you can harvest just before they open). I use sheers and cut as close to the sub as I can. I take blobs, stems, caps, etc. You will see where you cut turn blue/green.

Do not transfer bad stuff from one box to another. So if you use sheers to harvest the mushrooms, make sure you clean with alcohol before using it on the next box.

The advice that was given to me was to dry quickly. Use some heat and dry for at least 24 hours. So I dry at 122°F for 24 hours minimum. Lot of people dry differently, so up to you.  You should be happy for the first grow!


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: Grenik]
    #27144253 - 01/12/21 07:27 PM (1 month, 24 days ago)

thanks man. I am super happy. I feel grateful and lucky. I really didn't expect to be able to pull any of this off, so what I got - im good with it.

I just harvested. I'll maybe throw some pics up later, but I had to test my product, and it might be kicking in right now....


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27148553 - 01/14/21 10:02 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

Dude so happy to see this and that's not a bad canopy on those boxes for a first grow, aside from the ugly looking fruits.

That looks like bluing mycelium to me, not green sporulating mold. If it's actually attached to the mushrooms or the mycelium, and it looks like it is, then that's just mycelium fuzz. If you had mold and it was that much green, the box would smell like mildew/mold/basement. They usually start smelling before they turn green.

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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: karri0n]
    #27150559 - 01/15/21 11:26 PM (1 month, 21 days ago)

hey man, yeah I ended up with 35 dry grams. I was constantly trying to dial them in once they started to fruit.. figured out on my own that the climate here is just too damn dry, so I had to get a humidifier and then they all of the sudden took off. I think had I started with more humidity, it would've worked out a little bit better. but I'm happy with what I got!

now this....



what worries me isn't so much the color, thats all to my knowledge from where I took the 1st flush/bruising..  its actually the 'fuzz' at their bases.. it's different than the first time around. this is more scraggly and doesn't immediately strike me as mycelium.

are these okay to harvest [eventually], and even if it is mold, does dehydrating kill anything undesirable??

BTW it doesn't smell bad in there.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27150672 - 01/16/21 12:40 AM (1 month, 21 days ago)

Not mold just wet fuzz. Those look like fine second flush mushrooms. They're gonna be fewer but bigger.

35g dry, nice! Congrats man!


I'd probably cut  a bit lower, closer to the sub, or just twist and pull. You left a lot of edible stuff and aborts on there that won't grow and will sorta just rot. That might just be because you have a lot of blobs though.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: karri0n]
    #27150705 - 01/16/21 01:13 AM (1 month, 21 days ago)

great! thanks for clarifying.. yeah, I agree I should've grabbed a lot of what I left instead. I was trying not to make a bunch of divots because I thought the second flush needed some stump-age to grow out of..? so I wonder if you beat up the surface, and don't leave a lot of material for the second flush, will the mycelium underneath the surface just develop a new surface layer, and voila..?  ya know, for next time. thanks.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27150859 - 01/16/21 05:32 AM (1 month, 20 days ago)

Awesome that it worked out. I haven't been as active so I missed the first flush. That first flush looks great to me. I would scrap the humidifier because the substrate will keep its humidity up and you can mist when needed. They look water logged. Honestly I would keep a passive air flow going into that closet like you set up originally, and that discoloration is just bruising.


This is a great looking shoebox first run in my opinion. Keep it up!


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: Sockadin]
    #27152282 - 01/16/21 11:49 PM (1 month, 20 days ago)

thank you bro! appreciate the pointers, too. yeah, I weighed a portion wet, then dry -- I can't recall the exact numbers now, but it worked out that they're more than 90% water weight. I think it may have been like 80g wet, expecting 8g dry, but I got like 6something or 7something in the end of that session. thats what you meant by being waterlogged, yea?

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