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Offlineblack strat
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Check out my shoeboxes, please?
    #27126328 - 01/04/21 04:42 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

hey bros.

got 2 shoeboxes. everything seems to be goin ok, cept today I got home from work and pulled em out, and they were still pretty damp. I've only been misting when the coir turns light brown, and not too much, and I think I've been doin alright on that end.

all I smell is mushrooms. but stagnant water makes my butt pucker up when I see it.. and I don't wanna fucking blow it due to too much/over-care..

for now I've jimmied the tops, creating gaps at the corners for some FAE, hoping this will get rid of some extra moisture -- will that work??

pics ain't all that great, and yeah, most of the surface has a lovely dewy presence all over the myc.. there are some suuuuper small areas i can see some myc becoming sliiiiightly soggy, especially if it were to just stay as wet as it is now.

thank ya.



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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27126332 - 01/04/21 04:43 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

Conditions look excellent man good job!

Don't mist again for a while until some of the moisture evaporates.

You actually may not even need to mist that again until after the first flush.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27126336 - 01/04/21 04:44 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

All looks well, but 100% stop misting. You need to let the mushrooms absorb the water and let the coir dry out. That's where your excess moisture is coming from. Stop misting and leave the lids on. You really only need to mist big monos, and even then, not always.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: tiptrippy]
    #27126340 - 01/04/21 04:47 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

Yeah I don't know what you're talking about, all looks good. :cool:


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: Josex]
    #27126350 - 01/04/21 04:52 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

Okay!!

will NOT fucking mist again, wasnt even really planning on it either..

so, just to be clear --- forget any FAE for right now, keep going about my business, and ***even if the casing starts to get that lighter brown, and I'm not seeing any dew on the myc*** STILL do NOT mist?

thanks for the damn bullet-speed responses y'all.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27126353 - 01/04/21 04:54 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

Yep leave lid latched until fruits get tall enough to push it open. FAE happens through the imperfect lid.

If your sub us hydrated to field capacity that tub should maintain the moisture droplets through the first flush as long as you don't leave the lid off or have a fan pointed towards it.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: tiptrippy]
    #27126365 - 01/04/21 04:59 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

got it, thanks man.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: Josex]
    #27127287 - 01/05/21 01:58 AM (2 months, 1 day ago)

Quote:

Josex said:
Yeah I don't know what you're talking about, all looks good. :cool:




You mist shoeboxes?


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: ChardRich]
    #27127293 - 01/05/21 02:10 AM (2 months, 1 day ago)

the tek i followed called for slightly under field capacity coir, with a casing layer that gets basically 'soaked' on top, for lack of a better word that escapes me right now. after a day or so, my casing layer jus kept getting brighter and brighter brown, looking pretty thirsty, so I lightly misted here and there. at least, that's where I'm at..


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27127386 - 01/05/21 05:06 AM (2 months, 21 hours ago)

It is fine to mist shoeboxes if they need it. This is the art of Mush Cult, learning how to dial things in.

OP that box looks good. Just a side note, at this point the largest reason for cutting back on misting is triggering evaporation from the substrate surface. Once the substrate surface starts to loose a little moisture due to FAE it will trigger the mycelium produce to start producing mushrooms. Imagine a happy perfectly great environment for the mycelium and then all of a sudden the air starts to dry out. The mycelium response to the environmental change is the reproduce because of the environmental stress. So at this stage you want to back off on the misting and let it sit with the lid on and let the FAE do it's thing.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: Sockadin]
    #27128206 - 01/05/21 02:55 PM (2 months, 11 hours ago)

Quote:

Sockadin said:
It is fine to mist shoeboxes if they need it. This is the art of Mush Cult, learning how to dial things in.

OP that box looks good. Just a side note, at this point the largest reason for cutting back on misting is triggering evaporation from the substrate surface. Once the substrate surface starts to loose a little moisture due to FAE it will trigger the mycelium produce to start producing mushrooms. Imagine a happy perfectly great environment for the mycelium and then all of a sudden the air starts to dry out. The mycelium response to the environmental change is the reproduce because of the environmental stress. So at this stage you want to back off on the misting and let it sit with the lid on and let the FAE do it's thing.





brilliant. I did not know this. I love this shit, hah. thank you for that awesome description & explanation.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27128738 - 01/05/21 06:55 PM (2 months, 7 hours ago)

I come once again, seeking thine knowledge....



came home to these two shoeboxes ^^.

I haven't misted since y'all told me not to. I can see a fair amount of moisture scattered on the surface, and some clinging to the walls and lids, but they have also 'dried up' some too.

I guess I'm concerned about those brownish/yellowish spots.. metabolites? "myc piss", as they're calling it? something more sinister?? contam....? :frown:

thank yas.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27128769 - 01/05/21 07:07 PM (2 months, 7 hours ago)

My friend those spots you see are called primordia and they are the beginning of pins:jokerclap: you are on your way to a good harvest:cool:


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: EarthwormJim]
    #27128783 - 01/05/21 07:10 PM (2 months, 7 hours ago)

oh jeez. is it obvious I have no clue WTF I'm doin up to this point? LOL, wow.. ok

cool. hell yeah. hahah, thanks man.

God i feel dumb.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27128826 - 01/05/21 07:23 PM (2 months, 7 hours ago)

Lol no problem man, this is how you get a clue, by doing:goodluck:keep us posted on your grow


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: EarthwormJim]
    #27129620 - 01/06/21 04:43 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

sorry, real quick -- is there any reason to mist while the fruit is literally fruiting?  what should I be aspiring to see on the fruit, as far as their surfaces are concerned?

Quote:

Sockadin said:
The mycelium response to the environmental change is the reproduce because of the environmental stress. So at this stage you want to back off on the misting and let it sit with the lid on and let the FAE do it's thing.




ok, awesome, so the fruits themselves should remain relatively dry? at least as far as a basic human eye can tell?

thanks !


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27131142 - 01/06/21 07:42 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

shamefully bumping..  :undecided:  [for ^^ those questions]


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: black strat]
    #27131195 - 01/06/21 07:58 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

you can mist while fruiting, but be careful because a lot of water on the caps can cause some discoloring or in worst cases affect development (it'll be fine just not as pretty). This happens to me sometimes when condensation falls off the lid.

usually the fruits themselves will help keep surface conditions good once they start filling in. If mushrooms are growing then it already has the conditions it wants to produce fruit so best not to fuck with it too much, but don't be afraid to give it a light mist if it looks dry(no water beading on the surface, like none at all or yellowing/bruising mycelium). Personally I'm on no-mist gang when it comes to shoeboxes but I live somewhere with high RH so people with dryer climates might need to every now and then. Ideally shoeboxes are entirely set and forget but we don't always live in an ideal world. But at any rate your shoeboxes look great, you've got some pins coming in and good surface conditions, just leave it be.


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: Ballzagna]
    #27131230 - 01/06/21 08:10 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

:yoda2: MAN STRAT


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Re: Check out my shoeboxes, please? [Re: IdiotCircusBoy]
    #27131592 - 01/06/21 10:10 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

thanks ballz. ya know, I read your post, then immediately your sig, and it's so perfect, that I thought it was all the same thing. but anyway yeah, totally tracking, thanks a lot.


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