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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, Cheap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: LtLurker]
    #27126098 - 01/04/21 12:41 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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I can't even name 50 items you could use for a basic brf grow, let alone have to buy. You should read through the first link and re-evaluate your list cause a lot of it is already in most homes.
Rice/flour
Verm
Jars
MSS syringe
Pot
Hammer & nail
Plastic baggies
water spray bottle
Plastic tote(SAB)
ISO
Gloves
Light bulb
Dehydrator
Tin foil

Optional
More tubs(sgfc or shoebox)
Perlite(sgfc)
Coir(shoebox)




- Pressure cooker
- Scalpel
- Hole punsher
- Agar
- Malt
- Food color
- Petri dishes
- Balance
- Micropore tape
- SHIP / Inoculation port
- Hydrometer
- Parafilm
- Steril swabs
- Soldering Iron
- Inoculation loop
- SFD's
- RTV silicon
- Gypsum
- Capsules and capsule machine

Plus some more stuff which was good to buy or wasn't

And well I have never said it is just for a BRF grow, but starting with this hobby doesn't end with picking a fruit from a cake as you surely know very well yourself

That's why skipping the easy-peasy 12 year old baby stuff of mixing an  BRF cake in the beginning, as you may call it, just makes things easier and buying one grow box in your lifetime doesn't make a difference on your bill in the end :grin:


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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, Cheap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Shroombitz]
    #27126101 - 01/04/21 12:43 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

shit u can usually score a pc and a dehydrator at a thrift/goodwill store for less than 50$


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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, Cheap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: LtLurker]
    #27126107 - 01/04/21 12:45 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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How? you're talking about a huge list and it's actually a small list of everything i can think of, about 1/4 of which most people already have. You're being a little silly dude.

Are you seriously asking why you should have light for a grow? Come on dude...




There is daylight, ever heard of it? Dude, don't call me names... :mad2:

Well and I am not sure if that is a nice way how to answer a question of a noob...


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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, Cheap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: jcm4620]
    #27126111 - 01/04/21 12:45 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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shit u can usually score a pc and a dehydrator at a thrift/goodwill store for less than 50$




Sure, every place on this planet works just like the US...


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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, Cheap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: jcm4620]
    #27126120 - 01/04/21 12:48 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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shit u can usually score a pc and a dehydrator at a thrift/goodwill store for less than 50$




Try to get a decent sized PC in Europe or SFD's and there are plenty of other things which just don't work as easy as some teks may make it sound, because products or measurements aren't the same outside of the US

23 quart prezo PC's is what some would kill for on this side of the pond and buying used PC's dude, I have been there and ended up wasting time as  again some things are just different


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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, Cheap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Shroombitz]
    #27126129 - 01/04/21 12:54 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

ya god bless the good ol USA i cant believe stupid laws over there regarding pressure cookers n shit


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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, Cheap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: jcm4620]
    #27126138 - 01/04/21 12:57 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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ya god bless the good ol USA i cant believe stupid laws over there regarding pressure cookers n shit




I have no idea what makes it so difficult, but my 6 liter PC for 55 USD can be considered a good buy :hahawot:


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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, Cheap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Shroombitz] * 1
    #27126427 - 01/04/21 03:30 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

Dude it's really weird that you're the primary poster in this thread, and have chosen grow kits as the hill you wanna die on.  I mean, I'm done talking about it, so suit yourself, but it's definitely a bit of a phenomenon.


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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, Cheap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Inocuole]
    #27126449 - 01/04/21 03:43 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

<$200US you can build your own kit.
PC
SAB
Jars
Jar Lids
Unmodified Tubs
Mini Rounds
Agar Powder
Scalpel
50lb cereal of choice
Spores
Sanitizer
Torch

Half of the cost is investing in longterm use multitaskers. I guess you could hustle all that shit in a package for like $300+S/H=$500  or people can go shopping like normal.


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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, Cheap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Inocuole]
    #27126523 - 01/04/21 04:15 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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Dude it's really weird that you're the primary poster in this thread, and have chosen grow kits as the hill you wanna die on.  I mean, I'm done talking about it, so suit yourself, but it's definitely a bit of a phenomenon.




Sure, I am weird because my opinion isn't in line with the superior mainstream echo. Suit yourself yourself

Sarcasm off

For me the one grow box I bought helped me getting into the hobby as a noob and I can justify to recommend to start with one.

It's more of a phenomenon, that so many people with thousands of posts immediately cry against them, calling names and call it baby stuff to do BRF. Some of you guys really seem to lost any touch with how it actually is to be a noob. And even more so to be one nowadays and not whenever you got into the hobby.

They get as cheap as 23€, not the kind of money that would explain why you guys are leading such a crusade against them


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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, Cheap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Shroombitz] * 2
    #27126642 - 01/04/21 05:02 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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LtLurker said:
How? you're talking about a huge list and it's actually a small list of everything i can think of, about 1/4 of which most people already have. You're being a little silly dude.

Are you seriously asking why you should have light for a grow? Come on dude...




There is daylight, ever heard of it? Dude, don't call me names... :mad2:

Well and I am not sure if that is a nice way how to answer a question of a noob...



ok dude, here's my issue. The whole convo was about how easy brf is and how it's far more valuable & practicle than a kit. You're shifting the goal post by bringing in agar, pc, and grain supplies after i already conceded cakes can go jar, sgfc, or tubs to make the list bigger. And you also want to be semantic about the light bulb?

Dude, i think you're just being a contrarian at this point.


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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, Cheap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: LtLurker] * 1
    #27126997 - 01/04/21 07:57 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

nuttn wrong with brf however there is somethin wrong with payin 100$ for a bacteria ridden moldy brick of brf that they giv u a plastic bag for and say ya just squirt water on the bagπŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™‚οΈπŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™‚οΈπŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ


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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, Cheap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: jcm4620]
    #27127310 - 01/05/21 12:36 AM (3 years, 23 days ago)

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nuttn wrong with brf however there is somethin wrong with payin 100$ for a bacteria ridden moldy brick of brf that they giv u a plastic bag for and say ya just squirt water on the bagπŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™‚οΈπŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™‚οΈπŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ




Absolutely people need to be aware of scams like that

A decent grow box for 23€ from a vendor (like some of the sponsors here) which even replaces it when things go South is a whole different story thou


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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, Cheap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: LtLurker]
    #27127347 - 01/05/21 01:38 AM (3 years, 23 days ago)

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Quote:

Shroombitz said:
Quote:

LtLurker said:
How? you're talking about a huge list and it's actually a small list of everything i can think of, about 1/4 of which most people already have. You're being a little silly dude.

Are you seriously asking why you should have light for a grow? Come on dude...




There is daylight, ever heard of it? Dude, don't call me names... :mad2:

Well and I am not sure if that is a nice way how to answer a question of a noob...



ok dude, here's my issue. The whole convo was about how easy brf is and how it's far more valuable & practicle than a kit. You're shifting the goal post by bringing in agar, pc, and grain supplies after i already conceded cakes can go jar, sgfc, or tubs to make the list bigger. And you also want to be semantic about the light bulb?

Dude, i think you're just being a contrarian at this point.




Nah bro, only if you ignore what I have said before

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To keep it short, yeah the ingredients for some BRF cake are cheap, still anything else around this hobby adds up pretty substantially. Lol my shopping list counts over 50 items.




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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, Cheap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Shroombitz]
    #27127532 - 01/05/21 05:01 AM (3 years, 23 days ago)

πŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™‚οΈπŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ
πŸ₯ŠπŸ₯Š  ⚰️  🐴 
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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Shroomple]
    #27141004 - 01/10/21 11:11 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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What dat guy said^^

If you don’t wanna buy a pressure cooker,  I’d check out Etsy and help out some people who might be struggling in these hard times. Get some agar plates and sterilized BRF cakes from a solid vendor. Inoculate several jars then knock up agar plates under sterile conditions. Buy a plastic tote, perlite w/out added nutrients and fruit. EZ PZ.

A few jars will likely contam just because of the difficulty making 100% sterile syringes. Agar will give you an idea of how nasty they are. If your brf cakes work and you wanna go pro, isolate the prettiest, fastest, cleanest agar sections w more agar, knock up some grain (STERILE TECHNIQUE) and once it’s fully colonized, mix with substrate. You can buy grain and substrate from Etsy or recommended vendors page.

Step 3: get schwifty



For the record, I simply don't have
space for a pressure cooker...  "Agar" stands for...?


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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: Shroombitz]
    #27141012 - 01/10/21 11:17 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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Hm.  I'm thinking of this grow kit, in general; sound like a good deal?  Here it is: MOD EDIT PLEASE READ THE RULES 
ANy better suggestions?




If you are in Europe rather look for a "grow box" which is more or less a BRF cake already colonized by cube mycelium which should grow shrooms in 2-3 weeks after delivery. A cheap one will suffice, but look to get one of a vendor with a good service quality, have a look at the forum sponsors and/or do your search here in the forum to see which vendor tends to replace failed grow kits.
Just don't forget to make a spore syringe and/or a clone to agar from fruits of the box

If you are on the other side of the pond and you are referring to a grow kit where you get a bag of grains and a MS syringe, you are probably better of to follow the common advice to not buy it.




I live in a trailer with limited space in the US. Such are my limitations.


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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: jcm4620]
    #27141013 - 01/10/21 11:22 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

Just keep in mind, I don't have space for stove in my trailer, right now, and no space to store thing in, save my trailer itself.


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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: HappinessStan]
    #27141015 - 01/10/21 11:25 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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Search "grow kits" with the search bar and you'll see how many times people fail with grow kits. The time you would waste watching a grow kit fail and asking loads of questions here would be better used reading up on teks and understanding the life cycle of mushrooms, sterile technique, and contamination issues. The money you'd save will buy you things which you can use over and over so you can actually get into the hobby, instead of buying expensive grow kits, never getting any results, then giving up frustrated and fruitless.
Listen to the people here, they have your best interests at heart. ✌️&❀️




As to sterilization, yes; that is the biggie, and how to combine that concern with grow kits?


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Re: How (and Where) to Buy a Good, CHeap Grow Kit for Psilocybins? [Re: jcm4620]
    #27141043 - 01/10/21 11:46 PM (3 years, 17 days ago)

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I know they're not the same.  I know what comes in euro grow kits.  And yes, they are significantly better than what you get here if you want actual product in your hands.  Most of us don't post here to put mushrooms in people's hands though, we post to teach people how to grow.

I'm not trying to be a dick here, I'm just saying, I get that some people just want results fast.  When I first started, I wanted results fast.  But how quickly someone wants results has never been a factor here.

If you wanna talk about kits, a cultivation forum might not be the best place.  Like a pc building forum isn't the best place to ask about laptops.  Like a dojo isn't the best place to ask about firearms.  Like a culinary academy isn't the best place to ask about microwave dinners.  I could go on.  I won't.  But I could.





well put



ANd for the record, I am talking AMercian grow kits, as opposed to european ones...


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